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Jack3d vs. Maniac..?

I typically use 3 scoops of Jacked. I feel it with 2 but, 3 really gives me the best results it seems...
 
just used maniac today for the first time, so far i prefer jacked, but this could go either way in time

ill chime in later when i have more maniac! experience
 
0-hero said:
Considered that matey, did 2 bottles back to back without so much as caffiene (4 hours on the mats nearly killed me lol).

Didnt do a think.

Maybe im just a non-responder as the normal dose range.
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i think some of us just don't respond to geranium, i could do 8 original ergopharm amp and hardly feel it.
 
Well, just got back from the gym. Workout 3 on Manuac and I'm very dissapointed. All it did was make me sweat; I got no pump...

Got it to mix a bit better today. Had to shake it a ton and let it sit in the water for a bit and shake it some more but, didn't have as much junk in the bottom...

Anyway, think I'm gonna pull my Jacked out and jump back on using that...

Tomorrow is trash day so I might be sending my Maniac to a new home... We shall see...
 
Cappy said:
Well, just got back from the gym. Workout 3 on Manuac and I'm very dissapointed. All it did was make me sweat; I got no pump...

Got it to mix a bit better today. Had to shake it a ton and let it sit in the water for a bit and shake it some more but, didn't have as much junk in the bottom...

Anyway, think I'm gonna pull my Jacked out and jump back on using that...

Tomorrow is trash day so I might be sending my Maniac to a new home... We shall see...
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well, if you are not satisfied please return it :)

If you are using 3 scoops of Jack3d (which would send me into a panic attack), then maybe you have a very high tolerance to stims and NEED a high amount (600mg plus) to get the effect.

Maniac is more of a focus/pump product than a stim product. Thanks very much for your feedback!
 
Dammit had high hopes for this baby, but considering im a 5 scoops of Jack3d guy to get my desired results id probably need 10 scoops of Maniac? lol

Running BSN No explode atm, 2 scoops does me fine but the crash is awful.

Alternating day to day with JP8 and still 1 scoop of this rocks my world.

I wonder what the difference between them is, that JP8 works so damn well for me at such a cost effective dose.
 
0-hero said:
Dammit had high hopes for this baby, but considering im a 5 scoops of Jack3d guy to get my desired results id probably need 10 scoops of Maniac? lol

Running BSN No explode atm, 2 scoops does me fine but the crash is awful.

Alternating day to day with JP8 and still 1 scoop of this rocks my world.

I wonder what the difference between them is, that JP8 works so damn well for me at such a cost effective dose.
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I would say 1.5 scoops of Maniac gets me the 2 scoops of NO Xplode feeling...I don't get a crash either :)
 
Im gonna give it a whirl, simply because if i like the company ill try a new product by them as with AI.

I didnt like Jack3d much, does that mean i wont buy the new product of theres i like the profile of? Hell no! heh

I just looked at my tub of JP8, theres so many things listed i wouldnt even know where to begin comparing and dissecting to see what makes the formula stand out for me! (I know this can be a blessing and a curse).

Its almost time for my monthly nutraplanet purchase ZING
 
its funny, I used jp8 and after a week it was noneffective. It started to slow down for me by day 4-5 and then 2, 2.5 scoops and still little. Whereas I used White Flood, and found myself ready to bounce off the wall.

Go figure
 
AE14 said:
its funny, I used jp8 and after a week it was noneffective. It started to slow down for me by day 4-5 and then 2, 2.5 scoops and still little. Whereas I used White Flood, and found myself ready to bounce off the wall.

Go figure
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see man, that's the thing with most preworkouts....people respond very differently to different things. For this one negative review, I have 6 positive reviews of Maniac from the bb.com beta testers....and we picked some dudes that just like to bash products haha
 
KmuL said:
see man, that's the thing with most preworkouts....people respond very differently to different things. For this one negative review, I have 6 positive reviews of Maniac from the bb.com beta testers....and we picked some dudes that just like to bash products haha
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exactly, it is entriely subjective. I am hopeful that maniac will be a hit with me, however, if it isnt, so be it, for others it will be. Its the nature of the industry.
 
KmuL said:
well, if you are not satisfied please return it :)

If you are using 3 scoops of Jack3d (which would send me into a panic attack), then maybe you have a very high tolerance to stims and NEED a high amount (600mg plus) to get the effect.

Maniac is more of a focus/pump product than a stim product. Thanks very much for your feedback!
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I'm a stim whore. I haven't tried Maniac yet, but once I do, I'll report back with my experiences in this department ;)
 
Cappy said:
SwolenOne...

How did yours mix..? What were your thoughts on the taste of maniac..?
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mixed in a shaker with probably about 4 oz of water and chugged, taste was GREAT
 
Well this is my future stack pre workout and you can try it to. I love the combo. I did this few times. 1 scoop of jacked 1 scoop of no shot gun and 6 caps of pre surge . I love it.
 
djbombsquad said:
Well this is my future stack pre workout and you can try it to. I love the combo. I did this few times. 1 scoop of jacked 1 scoop of no shot gun and 6 caps of pre surge . I love it.
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you cant be serious

thats way too many stimulants my friend
 
AE14 said:
its funny, I used jp8 and after a week it was noneffective. It started to slow down for me by day 4-5 and then 2, 2.5 scoops and still little. Whereas I used White Flood, and found myself ready to bounce off the wall.

Go figure
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Im the opposite i take 12 tabs of white flood reccomended dose is 8 and i barely feel anything i feel the beta tingles thats about it i dont have anything to compare to but getting jack3d soon, Its funny because truely everyone responds differently to PWO supps some people can get by on 1 scoop of Supp A while others need 3-4 scoops, its really hit or miss in the worlds of PWO you have to find the one that works if there is one, there all good for certain people but not for all and bashing a certain PWO product is hard because everyone responds differently its not fair to make a descion on products like these as poor because for every 1 non responder theres like 5 responders. You really have to try a product to know for sure i really cant believe it works till i try it.
 
AE14 said:
its funny, I used jp8 and after a week it was noneffective. It started to slow down for me by day 4-5 and then 2, 2.5 scoops and still little. Whereas I used White Flood, and found myself ready to bounce off the wall.

Go figure
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thats whats weird about white flood. imo what sets it apart is the inclusion of gaba, and gaba is known for losing effectiveness quickly-btw i responded very well to white flood and look forward to trying jp8 and smash fully loaded.
 
thebigt said:
thats whats weird about white flood. imo what sets it apart is the inclusion of gaba, and gaba is known for losing effectiveness quickly-btw i responded very well to white flood and look forward to trying jp8 and smash fully loaded.
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man i love gaba, and for me the effects have not worn off after months of usage (used to use it irregularly like phenibut until i read a plethora of studies saying it was safe for daily use)

anyway, WF, JP8 and Shotgun v3 are the three for me that stand out as clear superiors
 
Amazingly I will be able to make the comparison here. I got a call from my mother wanting to buy me something for fathers day :wtf: so she is ordering some jack3d. I am looking forward to giving both a good run
 
Got to be honest have tried white flood but sounds interesting.

Is it only tabs or powder as well? I didnt get on with RPM tabs atall.
 
djbombsquad said:
Well this is my future stack pre workout and you can try it to. I love the combo. I did this few times. 1 scoop of jacked 1 scoop of no shot gun and 6 caps of pre surge . I love it.
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You are still alive?
 
0-hero said:
Got to be honest have tried white flood but sounds interesting.

Is it only tabs or powder as well? I didnt get on with RPM tabs atall.
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I like the WF powder better. Just personal preference.
 
ya i bought the pill form of white flood cause i heard the taste of powder wasnt great i didnt feel much from tabs powder is probally way to go... i tend to feel more from powder then tabs
 
I tried maniac for the first time yesterday at 1 scoop. Taste was great IMO, no mixability problems at all. Nothing of note in terms of energy, which is what AI said, and the focus was solid. I am going to try 1.5-2 scoops tomorrow just to see.
 
yea i used 1 scoop of maniac again today, and i actually really like the lack of feeling a stim effect. im just amped enough without feeling weird/jittery/anxious/increased heart rate. the focus was certainly noticeable too
 
SwolenONE said:
yea i used 1 scoop of maniac again today, and i actually really like the lack of feeling a stim effect. im just amped enough without feeling weird/jittery/anxious/increased heart rate. the focus was certainly noticeable too
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Thanks for that

If you guys get a chance to write a mini review in the reviews section, it would be much appreciated :)
 
2 scoops of maniac is interesting. The focus sneaks up on you. Started drinking while driving home and was real ready by the time I got to the gym.
 
allstar504448 said:
does jp8 still taste like ball sack (from what ive read on AM) or did they change it up yet
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I had the grape and was not fond of the taste. You sort of man u and drink it. It was, for obvious reasons very herbal tasting.
 
fwiw i've used jack3d, no shotgun, flood, and many others. jack3d and shotgun are my two favorite pre-wo's ever, nothing else really comes close. flood gave me really good focus but not much else. most recently i used smash fully loaded which i didn't like at all despite the promising ingredient profile

as has been stated, pre-wo's are completely subjective; the best thing to do is just try a bunch, pick 2 or 3, keep them on hand and switch between them every couple of weeks, imo
 
I have used both. Jack3d for a stim feeling and Maniac for just focus. No stimmed out feeling at all. Both are good and I use them both depending on my mood.
 
I don't care for too much caffeine before a workout. It's a vasoconstrictor and causes high blood pressure (temporary, albeit).

Don't get me wrong though, I use a lot of different energy type drinks and caps, but those are usually not before working out, lol.

Obviously to each their own though. Nothing is worse than having to drag yourself to the gym. I'd rather skip a workout than force a shitty workout. I hate those days!!!
 
How the hell is there no stimmed feeling from 120mg caffeine in Maniac? That's not a lot, but should be enough for most peeps to feel.
 
poison said:
How the hell is there no stimmed feeling from 120mg caffeine in Maniac? That's not a lot, but should be enough for most peeps to feel.
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I feel it....it is just that if you are used to 400-600mg :eek: you will not feel the stim effect as much with MANIAC!

I will reiterate that stims are secondary with MANIAC!...more of a sustained energy/focus/pump product
 
I agree cold fusion gave me the dumps pretty bad.......it didn't work me even though it has a pretty good profile. im happy with jacked....never tried no more than two scoops though. Metr-x amped is not bad either but i think its has too much caffiene and i workout early evenings. I want to try something else maybe maniac......?
 
Insaniac said:
I agree cold fusion gave me the dumps pretty bad.......it didn't work me even though it has a pretty good profile. im happy with jacked....never tried no more than two scoops though. Metr-x amped is not bad either but i think its has too much caffiene and i workout early evenings. I want to try something else maybe maniac......?
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the reviews are great man...can't go wrong with either really

different products...

but I will say 1 scoop MANIAC! and 1 scoop Jack3d is pure win!
 
KmuL said:
the reviews are great man...can't go wrong with either really

different products...

but I will say 1 scoop MANIAC! and 1 scoop Jack3d is pure win!
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Agreed although, I would have my heart coming out my butt if I take it on an empty stomach LOL.
 
I only made it through the first page and after reading all the bull **** I stopped.

I think No Shotgun is the best (based on the ingredients and effects)

maybe the others are worth a try but not for the price...

I take 1/2 - 3/4 scoop of no shotgun and add in BA, CM and L Lucein, and it's great, and some time a scoop of xtend.
 
FitModel said:
I only made it through the first page and after reading all the bull **** I stopped.

I think No Shotgun is the best (based on the ingredients and effects)

maybe the others are worth a try but not for the price...

I take 1/2 - 3/4 scoop of no shotgun and add in BA, CM and L Lucein, and it's great, and some time a scoop of xtend.
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are you just guessing the price of MANIAC! and Jack3d?

while it is your opinion, I think you should at least look at the prices before you say they are not worth the price.

That still may be the case for you...but not others

I can search and find many posts with different people that love both MANIAC! and Jack3d....as well as dislike the product that you mentioned.

It is subjective, not bullshit...thanks for your opinion though.
 
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