To tell the GF or not?

Good luck to you and your gf! I hope all goes well...

If she is interested in learning about what is going on with your body, try setting her up an account on here. My boyfriend did that and I have a better understanding (better than before anyways) of what is going on with his body, what to expect, and how to help him.

keep in mind tho..she will probably be accused of being you asking dumb ?'s on a dub account....
 
I'll tell ya,.. my gf and I had the "conversation" last night. She is so against it,.. no budging at all. I explained the pros/cons and everything,.. and no luck! I should add that we haven't been getting along all that well,. but whatever. We'll see!!!
 
Yes this is being deceitful because it takes away her right to makes choices about her life based on the actual facts. I keep hearing on this thread, "his body, his choice," but what about her choice?
 
I don't tell my girl when I change routines in the gym; I don't tell her when I'm upping my cardio.
Its not that it's private information, but I just can't find any reason to inform her of those decisions.

The same applies to aas.
When MY health becomes a valid concern for her (we become engaged married - ohhhhhhhhh my god; if she saw that I just typed that :P) then It would make sense to tell her.

It sounds like your worried to much what she will think. That is seriously the downfall of the relationship anyways. She may not like it when she finds out, but it only shows you have the ability to do what YOU think is right.
..And that is what keeps them at your side

..Of course, you can just tell her. But under no circumstances can you NOT take em after doing so.

The fact it is even an issue in your mind screams your afraid she will leave you
 
Yeah you got to tell her if it's serious. there are potential risks and side effects etc and these are things you want her to know if something goes wrong and you need medical help etc. Also I'm not sure how serious the relationship is but it does sound serious and if she stays at your place etc she does have the right to know she is around illegal substances. She might object based on health risks and legality she might understand but if she wasn't at least worried that would be a bad sign. so be prepared for some arguements and have some good reasoning. In a serious relationship you wont' be able to pull the it's my body i'll do what i want because it's her who will also suffer if something happens to you medically or legally know what I mean?
 
Not necessarily true. It is illegal, which some women have a kind of honer in not being involved with anyone doing anything illegal. And secondly, she may be intelligently thinking about possible offspring in the future. Pumping things into your body doesnt exactly increase the changes of a healthy baby. Though I actually do not know if any AAS or PCT could negatively effect it, that is not in my field of knowledge. And often girls tend to look down on a man who uses AAS, because to a few I have talked to it makes them seem like less of a man.

Which in all technicality, why would a man content with himself ever use AAS, and a man who cant be content with himself, cant be content with the world. And with her.

There are all kinds of factors that will go through her mind. I mean what if, God forbid and you are a smart guy lennoxchi so i doubt it, you somehow developed gyno....that would be just as embarrassing to her as it would be to you. And it could lead to a loss of her confidence in you.

If it is a serious relationship she is gona be running all kinds of thoughts and factors. And in all reality I wouldnt want the girl I am with to do plastic surgery, or get a boob job. So in a sense, I could see it being perfectly fine if a girl didnt want a guy to use AAS, which is a heck of a lot more dangerous than the boob job.
I agree with most of this post. Most points are right on track but there are a few that were missed. So you know I am not one of those immature 20 something clingy girls with no life experience, I am a 38 year old woman and am living with a 47 year old man.

As for the first one about the legality of it and most women not wanting anything to do with anything illegal, I agree totally. I have a zero tolerance policy for the use of illegal substances of any kind or even the abuse of legal substances (eg. someone has an injury and receives Lortab and then at a later date uses any left over pills to crush and snort.)

I am currently in a situation where I suspect that my live in boyfriend is using anabolic steroids and as soon as I find out for sure that I am correct, I am out of there. I will not have myself or my son subjected to that lifestyle. I hope I am wrong because everything was great until around six months ago which is when I think he started using but I seriously doubt it since I have witnessed too many of the side effects:
'test flu'
hot flashes/excessive sweating
general irritability and crankiness
constant complaints of joint aches
teeny tiny little scabs on thighs--guessing those are from the injections
extreme aggression--evidenced by ridiculous fight with neighbor
shrunken testicles--which by the way is totally gross and a turn off
erectile issues depending on the current cycle--and let me tell you if I have to continually stop and do extra 'work' to get it and keep it up and running during intimate times, I'll look for someone else who doesn't have self inflicted erectile dysfuntion.

The majority of the users on these boards and others constantly downplay the negative image that the government and media give steroids then in the same post when advising others they will say watch out for this or this and if you take this then you also have to take this to combat some nasty side effect. So basically all the posts on these forums prove that the studies about the damaging effects of steroids are correct. The users who post also say that it doesn't affect those around them but it does. I am so sick of having to listen to my boyfriend complain all the time about being hot, having a stuffy nose, achy joints, etc. and I am tired of the lethargy he experiences when he is off cycle. (I am guessing that is what is going on based on what I have found in my research.) I have absolutely no sympathy for him because I believe it is all self inflicted from being on the juice and I am tired of it interfering in my life.

I am a firm believer that if what you are doing has to be hidden, then you shouldn't be doing it. I also think that if AAS users think they are man enough to use the juice, they ought to be man enough to admit to it and suffer whatever consequences come with it.

Since you mentioned 'boob jobs' and your opposition to them I want to throw out a hypothetical siutation for all these guys to think about. What if the scientific community suddenly announced that they had discovered a way for women to get the larger, fuller breasts that they want without having to have cosmetic surgery? All it involved was for her to take massive overdoses of estrogen and totally alter her hormonal balance. (Which is basically what AAS users are doing but with testosterone.) Of course this would cause some nasty side effects, her hoo-ha would loosen up a bit and her periods would totally change and get in the way of sex a little more often (kind of like the erectile side effects in AAS affect sex) she would basically be in a constant state of PMS (like the irritability of AAS users) and she would also have to pile on a bunch of other meds to combat other issues and it is going to cost thousands upon thousands of dollars over time. On top of all that, she would have to do it illegally and order from whatever place she could find the stuff not knowing what kind of quality it actually was (like the AAS users do) and she would have to continue to do it for however long she wanted to keep the breasts because once she stops, the gains in breast size she made would be gone. Now imagine your girlfriend/wife coming to you with that info and telling you she wanted to do it. How many of you would willingly go along with and be supportive of her doing that? Just the one part about an almost constant state of PMS would be enough for most of these guys to say, "No way!" Yet these are the same guys expecting their women to be supportive of them and lying to their women because they know the women wouldn't put up with the ****.

It all boils down to this...When you decided to start doing it you got to make that choice--nobody forced it on you. You don't have the right to make her choices for her, so you have to be a man, tell her the truth and if she gives you your walking papers you need to accept that as a consequence of your actions.

One other thing...to me, all the pro baseball players who beat the home run record but were later found to have used steroids, well they don't have half the talent or are nowhere near the man Babe Ruth was (even if he was out of shape and wasn't much to look at) because he set the record without any assistance--it was all him.
 
All the 'unbiased' videos in the world won't change my mind. I've already done my research and have read both the anti steroid and pro steroid positions (one reason I am on this site and have been to other similar sites). The posts in these forums confirm that the side effects mentioned in the anti steroid literature are real and are not fabrications and exaggerations meant to scare people as the pro steroid literature tries to say.
 
All the 'unbiased' videos in the world won't change my mind. I've already done my research and have read both the anti steroid and pro steroid positions (one reason I am on this site and have been to other similar sites). The posts in these forums confirm that the side effects mentioned in the anti steroid literature are real and are not fabrications and exaggerations meant to scare people as the pro steroid literature tries to say.

no one is trying to change your mind. And to each their own. Side effects are realistic. But if you take any doctor prescribed medications, you are at more risk of severe health side effects than someone running a proper AAS cycle IMO.

prescribed medication is # 3 killer in the US I think....steroids kill maybe....under....un\h...some number that could only be 2 digits long. And that would probably be from misuse or stupidity. In which case the genetic pool is getting a little better off.

To each their own.
 
Only thing i disagree with is the the she would have to do it for however long she wanted to. AAS you can run 12 -16 weeks and keep the size after you come off it's not a Life Long Commitment. Now if the the new chemical etc you describe was tested and backed by many years of clinical research as AAS use has been and proven that it can be used in a safe way as AAS use has been proven then Yes I would fully support her.

Some things to consider. A.A.S in itself is not illegal it has legitmate medical uses it produced by legit pharmaceutical companies to government standards and has years of clinical research proving it can be used in a safe effective manner. It's not like Crack etc wtih no legitimate uses. I know from the above post that you have done your research so you know that If these substance could not be used in a safe manner the legitimate pharmaceutical companies would not be allowed to make them LEGALLY and Dr's could not LEGALLY prescribe them

Now a little background onmyself late 30's married over 10 years wife is a licensed nurse. She has many friends in the endo department and fully understands the risks and effects of testosterone. She also fully understands that at my age my testosterone is naturally lower and extra testosterone would be a legitimate medical option. Although it is price prohibitive.

If you read my posts i advise that his gf has a right to know and he should be fully open. and I totally back you on you not wanting to be around anything illegal. However what are your thoughts if he was doing it legally? Because at 47 there is a high chance he could legally be prescribed these and it even be covered under Health Insurance. From your post it kind of seems like you made up your mind that they are bad. But that is not the case it's how you use or abuse them that can make them bad
 
You must educate her if you are going to tell her. If you let her go by what she's "heard" it will be a terrible thing to let her know you are doing AAS. If she is open minded and willing to learn a bit it could work. I have to say I probably wouldnt tell if it was a new relationship, or just say you are taking one of the legal designer ones.
 
I HAVE done my research and am fully aware of the medical purposes of these medications. However, the legitimate medical use of the drugs is in MUCH SMALLER doses than what is being used by those hoping to attain a bodybuilder physique or enhance their performance in sports. Also, the drugs are being prescribed and administered BY A LICENSED PHYSICIAN for a very limited number of specific medical conditions.

As for low testosterone at his age, yes that is a legitimate need and if he were receiving treatment for this from a doctor I would be 100% supportive--as I told him numerous times when he first starting talking about it. However, treating low testosterone on your own (not under the supervision of an MD) by shooting up with massive doses of Test Prop (ordered off the internet--not a safe source of any medication, by the way) along with other substances such as Winstrol, Anavar, Deca, HGH, Nolvadex and who knows what else, is nothing more than abuse no matter how to try justify it. PLAIN AND SIMPLE...if you are getting those drugs from anywhere other than a doctor you are doing something ILLEGAL and if your doctor is prescribing them to you but you do NOT have one of the few conditions they are approved for than your doctor is also doing something illegal.
 
I vote tell her. If there's a possibility of any kind of future between you two, it's only respectful to tell her. If you are someone that she's considering spending the rest of her life with, then she does have a vested interest in your health IMO.

If the tables were turned, how would you feel?

ie: what if she keeps her "cocaine" addiction a secret from you? Now, while YOU may consider "cocaine" or (whatever applicable drug works for my example) to be dangerous, SHE believes it is safe, and can show you a website forum where other people provide facts to prove it is safe as well. What if she decided to hide it from you because she thought you were too closed minded to be open to the possibility that "cocaine" can be beneficial in certain situations?
How would you feel about her if you accidently found out 3 years later? Betrayed?

There is a very good chance she will find out eventually. Trust is the most important thing in a relationship. You may not agree on many things and still have a relationship work, but you cannot have a healthy relationship if you lose her trust.
 
I HAVE done my research and am fully aware of the medical purposes of these medications. However, the legitimate medical use of the drugs is in MUCH SMALLER doses than what is being used by those hoping to attain a bodybuilder physique or enhance their performance in sports. Also, the drugs are being prescribed and administered BY A LICENSED PHYSICIAN for a very limited number of specific medical conditions.

As for low testosterone at his age, yes that is a legitimate need and if he were receiving treatment for this from a doctor I would be 100% supportive--as I told him numerous times when he first starting talking about it. However, treating low testosterone on your own (not under the supervision of an MD) by shooting up with massive doses of Test Prop (ordered off the internet--not a safe source of any medication, by the way) along with other substances such as Winstrol, Anavar, Deca, HGH, Nolvadex and who knows what else, is nothing more than abuse no matter how to try justify it. PLAIN AND SIMPLE...if you are getting those drugs from anywhere other than a doctor you are doing something ILLEGAL and if your doctor is prescribing them to you but you do NOT have one of the few conditions they are approved for than your doctor is also doing something illegal.

Sunshine as I said I totally am in agreement with you on the Illegal aspect and am no way saying that you should be expected to accept that especially where children all involved. I am glad that you realize at his age he could have lower testosterone than normal and you would back him if he was going through a licensed physican. I brought this subject up because if you are trully serious about him as it seems you are this might be something you want to discuss with him. I am not here to change your mind nor do I justify lying or hiding anything. I didn't realize you two had talked about legal prescriptions before you suspected his lying.
 
Hate to answer a question with a question but if you don't tell her how are you going to explain your nuts on week 3?:dunno:
 
Hate to answer a question with a question but if you don't tell her how are you going to explain your nuts on week 3?:dunno:

uh, i just got out of the shower, it's cold in here, i was just swimming....i just emptyed the boys.....um
 
uh, i just got out of the shower, it's cold in here, i was just swimming....i just emptyed the boys.....um

I was just eluding to the myriad of sides that would warrant some explanation, or at least some uncomfortable questions, that could be dealt with easier upfront and honestly. I'd hate to have to explain a floppy wiener, bacne, tiny nuts etc and then have to explain after the fact and put up with all the female bs. ie Why don't you share with me? I don't feel involved in your life blah blah
 
I was just eluding to the myriad of sides that would warrant some explanation, or at least some uncomfortable questions, that could be dealt with easier upfront and honestly. I'd hate to have to explain a floppy wiener, bacne, tiny nuts etc and then have to explain after the fact and put up with all the female bs. ie Why don't you share with me? I don't feel involved in your life blah blah

i know what your saying.......i was just poking fun. if you have read me previous posts, i said that i have made the decision to tell her before doing anything. i know its the right thing to do. i don't mind admitting that she is more important than AAS. she also knows that i take PS/PH from time to time and she is aware that those are more dangerous to my liver than AAS, for the most part.
 
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