dedlifter1
Well-known member
No doubt! I had surgery once, very unpleasant experience.
Simmons goes toe to toe with Primordials 1-T TREN (Log)
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No doubt! I had surgery once, very unpleasant experience.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Gah. Me too, man. Struggling with it now. I got rid of it completely with Epidrol last year, kept it away for about a year, and then stupidly decided to run another DS and it's BACK! That was stupid of me.
simmons
Member
I was using ~1,000mg per day of vitex.
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I use 200mg of p5p daily.
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Both are easy to purchase, and fairly inexpensive.
simmons
Member
APRIL 22
DAY 27
Legs/Shoulders
As usual, my workout tonight was great. I thrashed my legs with sumo style deadlifts and stiff legged deadlifts. I would venture to say that I performed deads better tonight than ever before. My shoulders felt especially strong as well.
I notice an improvement every time I hit the gym, and I end up wanting to extend my session every single time I go.
Once again, I received some comments from people in the gym tonight regarding my size. People are noticing that I'm getting bigger.
My muscles currently seem much harder and more full. I can see it when I look in the mirror.
Also, I'm not incredibly vascular (I've never been one to have veins popping out everywhere) but I am seeing more green traces throughout my body. I would also say that, even though I'm bulking right now, I am leaning out a bit in the midsection; although I am far from where I would be if I decided to cut.
I may run 1-T Tren in the future if I decide to cut. I bet the results would be amazing.
My weight tonight was still around 209.75, which is +11.75 pounds. It seems as though my weight gain has tapered down a bit. I'll eat more and see what happens. :food:
I am still gaining though. Like I mentioned before, I believe I am simultaneously leaning out a bit, so that may explain the slight drop concerning the weight gain.
I may give some measurement updates in the next couple days as well.
DAY 27
Legs/Shoulders
As usual, my workout tonight was great. I thrashed my legs with sumo style deadlifts and stiff legged deadlifts. I would venture to say that I performed deads better tonight than ever before. My shoulders felt especially strong as well.
I notice an improvement every time I hit the gym, and I end up wanting to extend my session every single time I go.
Once again, I received some comments from people in the gym tonight regarding my size. People are noticing that I'm getting bigger.
My muscles currently seem much harder and more full. I can see it when I look in the mirror.
Also, I'm not incredibly vascular (I've never been one to have veins popping out everywhere) but I am seeing more green traces throughout my body. I would also say that, even though I'm bulking right now, I am leaning out a bit in the midsection; although I am far from where I would be if I decided to cut.
I may run 1-T Tren in the future if I decide to cut. I bet the results would be amazing.
My weight tonight was still around 209.75, which is +11.75 pounds. It seems as though my weight gain has tapered down a bit. I'll eat more and see what happens. :food:
I am still gaining though. Like I mentioned before, I believe I am simultaneously leaning out a bit, so that may explain the slight drop concerning the weight gain.
I may give some measurement updates in the next couple days as well.
qwerty33
Well-known member
thanks for the info. i will pick some up.
is this the powerfull that you are talking about (usblabs powerfull) Invalid Link Removed
what dosage do you run/ when during/after cycle? and do you use sustain with it as well?
i assume using it help with gyno prevention,recovery,sleep? thanks man
is this the powerfull that you are talking about (usblabs powerfull) Invalid Link Removed
what dosage do you run/ when during/after cycle? and do you use sustain with it as well?
i assume using it help with gyno prevention,recovery,sleep? thanks man
dedlifter1
Well-known member
APRIL 22
DAY 27
Legs/Shoulders
As usual, my workout tonight was great. I thrashed my legs with sumo style deadlifts and stiff legged deadlifts. I would venture to say that I performed deads better tonight than ever before. My shoulders felt especially strong as well.
I notice an improvement every time I hit the gym, and I end up wanting to extend my session every single time I go.
Once again, I received some comments from people in the gym tonight regarding my size. People are noticing that I'm getting bigger.
My muscles currently seem much harder and more full. I can see it when I look in the mirror.
Also, I'm not incredibly vascular (I've never been one to have veins popping out everywhere) but I am seeing more green traces throughout my body. I would also say that, even though I'm bulking right now, I am leaning out a bit in the midsection; although I am far from where I would be if I decided to cut.
I may run 1-T Tren in the future if I decide to cut. I bet the results would be amazing.
My weight tonight was still around 209.75, which is +11.75 pounds. It seems as though my weight gain has tapered down a bit. I'll eat more and see what happens. :food:
I am still gaining though. Like I mentioned before, I believe I am simultaneously leaning out a bit, so that may explain the slight drop concerning the weight gain.
I may give some measurement updates in the next couple days as well.
Even if you stay at 11.75lbs that is still awesome!!! Great log sim!!
MaxGolf
Primordial Performance Rep
APRIL 22
DAY 27
Legs/Shoulders
As usual, my workout tonight was great. I thrashed my legs with sumo style deadlifts and stiff legged deadlifts. I would venture to say that I performed deads better tonight than ever before. My shoulders felt especially strong as well.
I notice an improvement every time I hit the gym, and I end up wanting to extend my session every single time I go.
Once again, I received some comments from people in the gym tonight regarding my size. People are noticing that I'm getting bigger.
My muscles currently seem much harder and more full. I can see it when I look in the mirror.
Also, I'm not incredibly vascular (I've never been one to have veins popping out everywhere) but I am seeing more green traces throughout my body. I would also say that, even though I'm bulking right now, I am leaning out a bit in the midsection; although I am far from where I would be if I decided to cut.
I may run 1-T Tren in the future if I decide to cut. I bet the results would be amazing.
My weight tonight was still around 209.75, which is +11.75 pounds. It seems as though my weight gain has tapered down a bit. I'll eat more and see what happens. :food:
I am still gaining though. Like I mentioned before, I believe I am simultaneously leaning out a bit, so that may explain the slight drop concerning the weight gain.
I may give some measurement updates in the next couple days as well.
MORE FOOD NOW!!! LOL
simmons
Member
APRIL 23
END WEEK 4
The effects of the 1-T Tren are mounting. My strength is steadily climbing, and my endurance is high. Week four was definitely a success.
As I noted the other day, I'm receiving compliments from people regarding my increase in size.
I'm more vascular as well. As I said before, I believe I may be leaning out a bit, which is respectable because I am attempting to bulk. In addition, I haven't performed much cardio since I've been "on." Come to think of it, I need to fix that.
At the conclusion of week four my weight was 210 pounds, which is +12 pounds from my initial weight of 198.
Strength: What can I say. My strength is on the rise. I am performing several exercises better than ever before, including the deadlift, squat, DB bench, clean, and shoulder press.
I expect to see more improvement in the final two weeks.
Sides: Still no horrible sides. At times, I experience minor back pumps. I also suspect to have a bit of testicular shrinkage. I'm still perspiring more throughout the day as well.
I haven't experienced any hair loss. I have only experienced touches of minor lethargy here and there. I have no gyno symptoms. My aggression is not out of hand.
Not alot has changed concerning the side effects, with the exception of the testicular shrinkage. It's not severe, but I do believe the "boys" have lost some size.
Libido: Still going. Thank you, Sustain Alpha.
Overall feeling: I still feel great. The alpha male mentality is still there, and I look forward to tearing up the weights every day.
APRIL 24
DAY 29
Back/Biceps
I had to condense an hour+ worth of work into about 35 minutes. Surprisingly, I was able to do so without any problems. I even moved up in weight on many of the exercises I performed.
APRIL 25
DAY 30
A much needed OFF DAY.
END WEEK 4
The effects of the 1-T Tren are mounting. My strength is steadily climbing, and my endurance is high. Week four was definitely a success.
As I noted the other day, I'm receiving compliments from people regarding my increase in size.
I'm more vascular as well. As I said before, I believe I may be leaning out a bit, which is respectable because I am attempting to bulk. In addition, I haven't performed much cardio since I've been "on." Come to think of it, I need to fix that.
At the conclusion of week four my weight was 210 pounds, which is +12 pounds from my initial weight of 198.
Strength: What can I say. My strength is on the rise. I am performing several exercises better than ever before, including the deadlift, squat, DB bench, clean, and shoulder press.
I expect to see more improvement in the final two weeks.
Sides: Still no horrible sides. At times, I experience minor back pumps. I also suspect to have a bit of testicular shrinkage. I'm still perspiring more throughout the day as well.
I haven't experienced any hair loss. I have only experienced touches of minor lethargy here and there. I have no gyno symptoms. My aggression is not out of hand.
Not alot has changed concerning the side effects, with the exception of the testicular shrinkage. It's not severe, but I do believe the "boys" have lost some size.
Libido: Still going. Thank you, Sustain Alpha.
Overall feeling: I still feel great. The alpha male mentality is still there, and I look forward to tearing up the weights every day.
APRIL 24
DAY 29
Back/Biceps
I had to condense an hour+ worth of work into about 35 minutes. Surprisingly, I was able to do so without any problems. I even moved up in weight on many of the exercises I performed.
APRIL 25
DAY 30
A much needed OFF DAY.
dedlifter1
Well-known member
12lbs, ythats awesome, i will take it!2 weeks left right?APRIL 23
END WEEK 4
The effects of the 1-T Tren are mounting. My strength is steadily climbing, and my endurance is high. Week four was definitely a success.
As I noted the other day, I'm receiving compliments from people regarding my increase in size.
I'm more vascular as well. As I said before, I believe I may be leaning out a bit, which is respectable because I am attempting to bulk. In addition, I haven't performed much cardio since I've been "on." Come to think of it, I need to fix that.
At the conclusion of week four my weight was 210 pounds, which is +12 pounds from my initial weight of 198.
Strength: What can I say. My strength is on the rise. I am performing several exercises better than ever before, including the deadlift, squat, DB bench, clean, and shoulder press.
I expect to see more improvement in the final two weeks.
Sides: Still no horrible sides. At times, I experience minor back pumps. I also suspect to have a bit of testicular shrinkage. I'm still perspiring more throughout the day as well.
I haven't experienced any hair loss. I have only experienced touches of minor lethargy here and there. I have no gyno symptoms. My aggression is not out of hand.
Not alot has changed concerning the side effects, with the exception of the testicular shrinkage. It's not severe, but I do believe the "boys" have lost some size.
Libido: Still going. Thank you, Sustain Alpha.
Overall feeling: I still feel great. The alpha male mentality is still there, and I look forward to tearing up the weights every day.
APRIL 24
DAY 29
Back/Biceps
I had to condense an hour+ worth of work into about 35 minutes. Surprisingly, I was able to do so without any problems. I even moved up in weight on many of the exercises I performed.
APRIL 25
DAY 30
A much needed OFF DAY.
simmons
Member
Yep. Two weeks to go. :woohoo:
You're supposed to take the DM immediately following your workout. I usually try to eat a decent meal about an hour later. Sometimes I take a weight gainer shake instead, then eat later. It just depends on my schedule.
Irish Cannon
Legend
simmons
Member
Thanks man. I hope to gain a few more pounds. Then it's time to drop a little fat.
That'd be a seriously successful cycle.
Oh yeah.
simmons
Member
APRIL 26
DAY 31
I had to try and condense another workout into a short amount of time. Tonight was supposed to be legs and shoulders, but I only performed a couple exercises: Zercher squats and clean and press. Yet again, my performance was top notch. My strength and endurance continue to climb. I love the fact that I have an increased ability to push out hard and heavy reps.
I also threw in some cardio when I got home. I alternated between sprinting and jogging for a few minutes. It wasn't much, but it was enough to make me realize I need to do more cardio.
I really perspired heavily today. I enjoy it though. There's nothing like getting in a great gym session. It's just motivating.
Tonight, the scale settled at 212 pounds. That means I'm currently up 14 pounds.
I imagine I'll gain a bit more in the 11 days I have left on this cycle.
DAY 31
I had to try and condense another workout into a short amount of time. Tonight was supposed to be legs and shoulders, but I only performed a couple exercises: Zercher squats and clean and press. Yet again, my performance was top notch. My strength and endurance continue to climb. I love the fact that I have an increased ability to push out hard and heavy reps.
I also threw in some cardio when I got home. I alternated between sprinting and jogging for a few minutes. It wasn't much, but it was enough to make me realize I need to do more cardio.
I really perspired heavily today. I enjoy it though. There's nothing like getting in a great gym session. It's just motivating.
Tonight, the scale settled at 212 pounds. That means I'm currently up 14 pounds.
I imagine I'll gain a bit more in the 11 days I have left on this cycle.
tyler4
Active member
Nice update. I'm wondering if the sweating issue will be a big deal when I cycle this. I wouldnt mind it while working out but sitting at my desk it might be a little weird, ha.
14 pounds is nuts bro, youre making me antsy! I cant run this for a while.
Any idea on what/when your next cycle will be?
14 pounds is nuts bro, youre making me antsy! I cant run this for a while.
Any idea on what/when your next cycle will be?
qwerty33
Well-known member
is this the powerfull that you are talking about (usblabs powerfull) Invalid Link Removed
what dosage do you run? and do you use it all cycle both on and ptc? it is safe to use it on with sustain alpha also?
i assume using it help with gyno prevention,recovery,sleep?
you the man +14 cant wait to run a similar cycle
what dosage do you run? and do you use it all cycle both on and ptc? it is safe to use it on with sustain alpha also?
i assume using it help with gyno prevention,recovery,sleep?
you the man +14 cant wait to run a similar cycle
simmons
Member
I do sweat more throughout the day, but it's not like I sweat profusely when I'm sitting around. I imagine you'll be fine.
As much as I would love to run another cycle fairly soon, I think I'm going to go natural for a while. I have some Diesel Test Hardcore, Powerfull, and some of Primordials Phyto-Testosterone that I plan on using after PCT. I'll actually be using the DTHC and Powerfull during PCT as well.
I'm considering picking up Anabolic Pump and some of PPs DermaTherm Target. I've also thought about trying out Prime, and I've been looking into Formex.
I think some combination of the aforementioned products would make a pretty sick stack.
simmons
Member
Yeah that's what I'm using now. You could just pick up Invalid Link Removed, which is just the bulk powder. I'm also going to use it during PCT, along with Diesel Test Hardcore, and Primordials Testosterone Recovery Stack. With that combination, I wouldn't be surprised if I made some mass gains during PCT.
It has helped with my sleep. I haven't been using it for very long, but I can tell that it does induce a deeper, more relaxing sleep.
If I were you, I would buy some of the bulk powder and p5p and use those initially for gyno prevention. If you begin to notice sides, I would start using vitex.
Yeah +14 is nice. Hopefully I can pick up another pound or two before it's all said and done.
simmons
Member
Cool. I can't wait to try it out. My fiance just picked some up, and she's going to use it along with Primordials green tea and CLA. She also picked up USP Labs' Asteroid stack. LOL she's going to get ripped.
How is the Eviscerate working? Also, you said you can't run the 1-T Tren yet. Why was that again? Did you just finish a cycle? Sorry if you already told me. I have a lot on my mind.
tyler4
Active member
Cool. I can't wait to try it out. My fiance just picked some up, and she's going to use it along with Primordials green tea and CLA. She also picked up USP Labs' Asteroid stack. LOL she's going to get ripped.
How is the Eviscerate working? Also, you said you can't run the 1-T Tren yet. Why was that again? Did you just finish a cycle? Sorry if you already told me. I have a lot on my mind.
It's cool man. I just finished The One. Liked it very much and now I'm in PCT. So I have until at least July before I can run another cycle. But I'm trying to decide weather I want to run 1T Tren then or wait. I dont know if I want to bulk in July and I really want to run the 1T Tren while bulking. Sooo, I'm just trying to think everything over.
It's still kinda early to tell on the Eviscerate. I only have the 4oz bottle so it wont last long. I'll let you knwo what I think after I finish. I do know one thing, it burns like heck when you sweat after you put it on.
simmons
Member
Yeah I remember talking to you about The One now. It just slipped my mind.
I think the 1-T Tren would be worth a shot for you. I think you could put on some serious mass with it. I'm really liking it at this point.
The burn let's you know it's working. :lol:
Irish Cannon
Legend
Babywifey said the same thing about the Eviscerate. I don't know if I want to try it...not too into burning sensations.
simmons
Member
I believe that the TRS is sufficient. I'm adding in the DTH and Powerfull for an extra "kick." It would be nice to put on another pound or two during PCT.
Are you going to use Sustain Alpha while on-cycle?
I really like Dark Matter. I'm currently on my third tub of the stuff. I believe it has a good ingredient profile, and the taste is pretty good (which is a plus, not a necessity IMO). I have the blue raspberry flavor and it tastes like a liquid slush drink. It's pretty thick and sweet but it tastes like candy. Just a bit of warning though, it has turned a few of my stools to a nice greenish color.
qwerty33
Well-known member
yea i will be using sustain while on. have to keep the girlfriend happy . i have only ran cycles that increase libido epi and halodrol. I am hoping i can keep libido up during and have a super strong libido during ptc.
do you have any ptc stacks to run instead of the TRS? just curious i haven't bought the TRS yet.
one concern is not having to have topical during ptc b/c of going to the beach.
. i have only ran cycles that increase libido epi and halodrol. I am hoping i can keep libido up during and have a super strong libido during ptc. do you have any ptc stacks to run instead of the TRS? just curious i haven't bought the TRS yet.
one concern is not having to have topical during ptc b/c of going to the beach.
dedlifter1
Well-known member
Im currently using dark matter as well, not sure about it yet. I also just finished up the one and pct, i really want to run this, in july, tho that would break my 6 month rule!! I find for me my gains are limited with back to back cycles.
tyler4
Active member
Ya know, I hadn't really noticed it until yesterday. I had a light sunburn on my lower abs from Saturday. And when I first applied it, it didn't burn. But then later on in the day when I started to sweat, it burned like a beeyotch.
I also had thought about getting some Dark Matter but the high carbs concern me a little. I would love it for bulking but I'm on a very low carb right now so 40g would be kinda steep. I'm going to keep looking to see what's out there.
qwerty33
Well-known member
one last question about your supps.
with the bulk powder powerfull, do you fill your own caps/ what size? and take one during the day and one before sleeping or only before you pass-out?
what Beta Alanine supp do you take and what dose/ time of day?
same for liquid b-12?
im looking forward to running this one the supps arrive!!
with the bulk powder powerfull, do you fill your own caps/ what size? and take one during the day and one before sleeping or only before you pass-out?
what Beta Alanine supp do you take and what dose/ time of day?
same for liquid b-12?
im looking forward to running this one the supps arrive!!
simmons
Member
I don't believe you have to cap them. I suppose you could though. I've heard the powder doesn't taste too great.
I take Powerfull before I workout and before bed. I would just follow the dosing directions for the 1-C given on the NutraPlanet website.
I use Primordials beta alanine. You can purchase up to a kilo from their site. I normally take a serving an hour or two before I workout, and another serving an hour or two following my workout.
As for the liquid B-12, you should be able to pick some up at your local supplement shop. Again, just follow the instructions that are given. I would suggest the liquid B-12, or at least something for energy (just watch the caffeine), as you may experience lethargy.
qwerty33
Well-known member
thanks much man im going to get the bulk tomorrow but isnt it missing the 1st compound pureSap?
PowerFULL 750mg
PureSap(Extract Engineered
Sapogenin/alkaloids From Chlorophytum)
PureDopa(1-Carboxy-2-Amino-3-Pyrobenzol(3,4 Diol) Extract Engineered From Dolichos Pruriens L.)
PowerFULL 750mg
PureSap(Extract Engineered
Sapogenin/alkaloids From Chlorophytum)
PureDopa(1-Carboxy-2-Amino-3-Pyrobenzol(3,4 Diol) Extract Engineered From Dolichos Pruriens L.)
simmons
Member
Yes, but the 1-C is the compound that is relevant for what you will be using it for (inhibit prolactin issues).
simmons
Member
You know it!
I have some catching up to do since i've been gone. Log looks great though, buddy!
Thanks man. I hope you had a good little vacation. I'm going to hit the gym now. I'll update when I get back.
simmons
Member
APRIL 29
DAY 34
The past few days have been pretty nice. I'm still experiencing increases in performance. I was able to move up in weight during my chest workout as well as my back workout.
I had my BP checked today and everything was perfect.
I started taking vitex again. It looked to me that my nipples may have been a bit puffy. I'm not for certain if I was experiencing gyno symptoms, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't going to have problems.
I'm still sweating more throughout the day and during my workouts as well.
Just a warning for anyone that plans on using 1-T Tren: make sure you eat an adequate amount of food. I noticed another member on this forum said that he waited too long between meals and experienced some nausea. Well, twice during my cycle I have waited a bit too long between meals (post-workout), and I will say that doing so does not produce a good feeling lol. Tonight, I took my post-workout shake but waited too long until I ate an actual meal.
On a positive note, I can definitely tell that I have filled out. I still receive comments from people.
My weight is still 212, so I'm +14 right now.
I'd also like to mention that the Powerfull I have been using has definitely improved the quality of my sleep.
DAY 34
The past few days have been pretty nice. I'm still experiencing increases in performance. I was able to move up in weight during my chest workout as well as my back workout.
I had my BP checked today and everything was perfect.
I started taking vitex again. It looked to me that my nipples may have been a bit puffy. I'm not for certain if I was experiencing gyno symptoms, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't going to have problems.
I'm still sweating more throughout the day and during my workouts as well.
Just a warning for anyone that plans on using 1-T Tren: make sure you eat an adequate amount of food. I noticed another member on this forum said that he waited too long between meals and experienced some nausea. Well, twice during my cycle I have waited a bit too long between meals (post-workout), and I will say that doing so does not produce a good feeling lol. Tonight, I took my post-workout shake but waited too long until I ate an actual meal.
On a positive note, I can definitely tell that I have filled out. I still receive comments from people.
My weight is still 212, so I'm +14 right now.
I'd also like to mention that the Powerfull I have been using has definitely improved the quality of my sleep.
simmons
Member
Tomahawk88
Well-known member
The 1-C powder doesn't taste that great but it looks a lot worse than it tastes. I mixed mine with some Purple Wrath and drank it fairly slow.
simmons
Member
APRIL 30
END WEEK 5
Another great week. My strength is still climbing, and I am more explosive in the gym. I continue to progress on every body part that I work.
Like I said before, I am still receiving compliments from people pertaining to my size.
I also continue to experience a pretty good pump in the gym, and I am definitely more vascular.
I weighed in today at 213 pounds, which is +15 pounds thus far.
Strength: Up up and away! I'm still progressing here. I have improved on all compound exercises. I notice a greater ability to push myself every time I hit the gym.
Sides: I'm certain now that I have some testicular shrinkage. It's not severe, but it is noticeable.
I still experience occasional, minor back pumps.
I'm still perspiring more. When I hit the gym, I sweat like a whore in church.
I still have not experienced any hair loss.
Any lethargy I experience is minor.
I have no gyno symptoms, but as stated before, I started taking vitex again.
My aggression has increased, but it is manageable.
Overall, the sides still are not that bad. The testicular shrinkage is of some concern, but I know it is a possible side effect during a cycle.
Libido: Still going. Sustain Alpha rocks.
Overall feeling:I feel strong and confident. I look forward to hitting the gym every day, and observing how far I have progressed.
One week remaining.
At the conclusion of week 6, I'll give a final review, which will include updated pictures and an explanation of strength increases and measurements.
END WEEK 5
Another great week. My strength is still climbing, and I am more explosive in the gym. I continue to progress on every body part that I work.
Like I said before, I am still receiving compliments from people pertaining to my size.
I also continue to experience a pretty good pump in the gym, and I am definitely more vascular.
I weighed in today at 213 pounds, which is +15 pounds thus far.
Strength: Up up and away! I'm still progressing here. I have improved on all compound exercises. I notice a greater ability to push myself every time I hit the gym.
Sides: I'm certain now that I have some testicular shrinkage. It's not severe, but it is noticeable.
I still experience occasional, minor back pumps.
I'm still perspiring more. When I hit the gym, I sweat like a whore in church.
I still have not experienced any hair loss.
Any lethargy I experience is minor.
I have no gyno symptoms, but as stated before, I started taking vitex again.
My aggression has increased, but it is manageable.
Overall, the sides still are not that bad. The testicular shrinkage is of some concern, but I know it is a possible side effect during a cycle.
Libido: Still going. Sustain Alpha rocks.
Overall feeling:I feel strong and confident. I look forward to hitting the gym every day, and observing how far I have progressed.
One week remaining.
At the conclusion of week 6, I'll give a final review, which will include updated pictures and an explanation of strength increases and measurements.
russianstar
Well-known member
Great log my friend, very informative.
dedlifter1
Well-known member
15lbs!!! Thats whats up!!! Way to go bro, i will deff be picking up this compound in the very near future!!APRIL 30
END WEEK 5
Another great week. My strength is still climbing, and I am more explosive in the gym. I continue to progress on every body part that I work.
Like I said before, I am still receiving compliments from people pertaining to my size.
I also continue to experience a pretty good pump in the gym, and I am definitely more vascular.
I weighed in today at 213 pounds, which is +15 pounds thus far.
Strength: Up up and away! I'm still progressing here. I have improved on all compound exercises. I notice a greater ability to push myself every time I hit the gym.
Sides: I'm certain now that I have some testicular shrinkage. It's not severe, but it is noticeable.
I still experience occasional, minor back pumps.
I'm still perspiring more. When I hit the gym, I sweat like a whore in church.
I still have not experienced any hair loss.
Any lethargy I experience is minor.
I have no gyno symptoms, but as stated before, I started taking vitex again.
My aggression has increased, but it is manageable.
Overall, the sides still are not that bad. The testicular shrinkage is of some concern, but I know it is a possible side effect during a cycle.
Libido: Still going. Sustain Alpha rocks.
Overall feeling:I feel strong and confident. I look forward to hitting the gym every day, and observing how far I have progressed.
One week remaining.
At the conclusion of week 6, I'll give a final review, which will include updated pictures and an explanation of strength increases and measurements.
simmons
Member
Thanks everyone.
Dedlifter, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Mars1107
Guest
have you tried plain tren before?
im trying to decide whether to just spend 30-60 bucks on oral tren rather than 70-140 on 1-t tren
simmons have u tried both???
im trying to decide whether to just spend 30-60 bucks on oral tren rather than 70-140 on 1-t tren
simmons have u tried both???
simmons
Member
Are you referring to an oral with 19-nor, or actual trenbolone?
This is the only tren-like compound I have ever used. As I understand it, the absorption of the transdermal compound is going to be far greater than any oral. In fact, you would have to take a much higher dose of oral 19-nor than what is normally suggested to reap the same effects. I imagine this would also be associated with more negative side effects.
I believe Eric (PP president) has stated that 5 pumps of 1-T Tren will give you the equivalent of 200-300mg a day of 19-nor, even though there are only 81mg of the compound per 5 pumps in 1-T Tren.
You also get some other "goodies."
Here is the profile of the active ingredients:
Mars1107
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yeah im talking about 19-nor, the thing thing in 1-t tren, but just the tren in oral form.
you bring up some great points but
81=200-300mg?!
thats good.
but from what ive heard 120mg of oral 19-nor is a lot.
so how could someone handle 200-300?
by the way ive enjoyed your log,
im just trying to figure out, how much better 1-t tren is compared to oral 19-nor, i know its better, i just want to know if its worth comparatively.
the price of 1-t tren isnt bad, just on a tight budject, when i consider i have to buy pct and cycle support, in which i will be taking seriously.
simmons
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The 200-300 is something I read posted by Eric on another forum. Maybe we can get a rep in here to elaborate.
IMO, I would say it is a superior product compared to oral alternatives.
I'm glad you've enjoyed the log.
I understand the tight budget deal. Have you looked into the Xtreme Hardcore Muscle Stack? It includes 2 bottles of the 1-T Tren (enough for a 6 week cycle at 5 pumps per day), as well as Primordials Testosterone Recovery Stack (Sustain Alpha, Toco-8, EndoAmp Max) for PCT. That's what I bought.