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The ONE or 1-T Tren????

Spudpunx

Spudpunx

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I've been doing so much reading about The ONE and 1-T and couldnt decide and now this new 1-t Tren is out... I dont react well to ph/ps i usually have to take higher than recommended doses even on my first cycle i did of havoc i was takin 5+ ed.
I want to know what you guys think i could get better results from just using the recommended doses (they are both kinda expensive so i think im just gonna go with the recommended so i dont have to by more than 1 of either for a 4 week cycle)
 
Spudpunx said:
I've been doing so much reading about The ONE and 1-T and couldnt decide and now this new 1-t Tren is out... I dont react well to ph/ps i usually have to take higher than recommended doses even on my first cycle i did of havoc i was takin 5+ ed.
I want to know what you guys think i could get better results from just using the recommended doses (they are both kinda expensive so i think im just gonna go with the recommended so i dont have to by more than 1 if either for a 4 week cycle)
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I would go with 1-T, due to all the mixed reviews on "The One" saying its only a DHT, etc, etc.
 
I won't downplay App Nut as The One is pretty good, but hype considered, I'm a bit underwhelmed with The One. I haven't tried 1t-Tren yet but I got in on PP's 1-T pre-order and it was the single best PH type product I've used to date.
 
I got absolutely NOTHING out of 1-T (not Tren).

I'm up 10 lbs. 18 days in on The One, no bloat, leaner in the mid section, vascular as a mofo, blasting through personal bests in the gym. I couldn't be happier with it. Absolutely 0 sides.

For me, it's The One hands down. That's just my experience with both though.
 
Dagron said:
I won't downplay App Nut as The One is pretty good, but hype considered, I'm a bit underwhelmed with The One. I haven't tried 1t-Tren yet but I got in on PP's 1-T pre-order and it was the single best PH type product I've used to date.
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Nice
 
well ive decided that im gonna go ahead and get 1-t Tren but only cuz i have havoc as well that i have already started... Dont worry appnut you will have a future customer, The ONE is gonna be my next cycle!!!
 
Are you 21 yet? because your havoc cycle was from when you were 20.

Also keep in mind the transfer risk with 1-T Tren, so be careful of who you are in contact with the first while after putting it on... So if you are going to be with your girlfriend, make sure you either put it on after seeing her, or as long beforehand as possible, 5-6 hours preferably.

Also keep in mind at the 5 pumps a day, the 1-T Tren is 23 days worth, at 3 caps a day The ONE would be 36 and 2 caps left for day 37, at the same price.
 
mmzawa said:
I would go with 1-T, due to all the mixed reviews on "The One" saying its only a DHT, etc, etc.
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There really aren't any mixed reviews, just a lot of misinformation from broscientists. Saying all DHT derivatives are the same as saying grape juice and wine are the same.

Check the logs...the proof is in the pudding. Those who take The One love it.
 
EasyEJL said:
Are you 21 yet? because your havoc cycle was from when you were 20.

Also keep in mind the transfer risk with 1-T Tren, so be careful of who you are in contact with the first while after putting it on... So if you are going to be with your girlfriend, make sure you either put it on after seeing her, or as long beforehand as possible, 5-6 hours preferably.

Also keep in mind at the 5 pumps a day, the 1-T Tren is 23 days worth, at 3 caps a day The ONE would be 36 and 2 caps left for day 37, at the same price.
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Yeah - but at 4 pumps/day you'll get 27 days out of each bottle. Not everyone is only going to use 3 caps/day of "The ONE", either. I see that it's recommended to use 4 caps/day if over 200lbs. That would equate to 27.5 days worth per bottle then. Pretty similar in terms of price and total product duration.

1-T Tren also isn't methylated (being transdermal delivery); which will demonstrate significantly less overall hepatic stress as well. Just to throw all the info out there, E. ;)

Both compounds are very fine formulations here, imo. There are different risks and benefits in using both. I plan to use "The One" soon myself.....maybe even stacked with 1-T or 1-T Tren. :D
 
WhatsaRoid? said:
I say go with "The One," although I am a strong fan for PP products but I've seen the results of "The One" first hand and I cant wait to run it myself.
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You and everyone else who has run it or know someone who has run it.

Trauma1 said:
Yeah - but at 4 pumps/day you'll get 27 days out of each bottle. Not everyone is only going to use 3 caps/day of "The ONE", either. I see that it's recommended to use 4 caps/day if over 200lbs. That would equate to 27.5 days worth per bottle then. Pretty similar in terms of price and total product duration.
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Gonna have to disagree here. Even the bigger guys are usually sticking at 3 caps a day and gaining 1-15 pounds of lean lean mass. My room mate who is over 200 pounds started at only 2 caps per day and by the end of week 1 was up 4 pounds. When he finally kicked the dosage to 3 caps of The One, he seemed to be inflating on a daily basis. It was almost comical and scary. :laugh:

So, at the generally perfect dose of 3 caps per day, The One lasts for 5 weeks, a generally perfect cycle length for this type of compound. It's hard to beat perfection. :bandit:

Anyways, it should also be noted that the price of The One includes the cost of PCT in the form of 2nd Gear. So, I think price points aren't exactly the same. And while 1T-tren may be non-methylated, there are other risks involved with transdermals, namely the transfer of hormonal product to women and children. These are all things that must be considered I think. There is no completely safe end-all silver bullet. Everything comes with a trade off of some kind, as you have already mentioned.
 
Aeternitatis said:
Gonna have to disagree here. Even the bigger guys are usually sticking at 3 caps a day and gaining 1-15 pounds of lean lean mass. My room mate who is over 200 pounds started at only 2 caps per day and by the end of week 1 was up 4 pounds. When he finally kicked the dosage to 3 caps of The One, he seemed to be inflating on a daily basis. It was almost comical and scary. :laugh:

So, at the generally perfect dose of 3 caps per day, The One lasts for 5 weeks, a generally perfect cycle length for this type of compound. It's hard to beat perfection. :bandit:

Anyways, it should also be noted that the price of The One includes the cost of PCT in the form of 2nd Gear. So, I think price points aren't exactly the same. And while 1T-tren may be non-methylated, there are other risks involved with transdermals, namely the transfer of hormonal product to women and children. These are all things that must be considered I think. There is no completely safe end-all silver bullet. Everything comes with a trade off of some kind, as you have already mentioned.
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I can see some aspects of your point, but again, that may or may not apply to everyone in terms of dosing and effect - regardless of their size. Each cycle can and will differ on an individual basis.

Given the fact that 1-T Tren has just been released, there isn't enough significant statistical analysis or feedback yet to even make a fair comparison in terms of overall effects; however though, my intent here is certainly not to compare the 2 products what-so-ever, because they are both very unique and innovative in their own right.

1-T and 1-Tren were both formulated to mitigate some of the typical side-effects that may be experienced while on cycle (i.e. hairloss and suppressed libido) - So while it may be a bit more in terms of overall price, it's more than meets the eye in terms of its complete formulation.

As i had said, they both have pros and cons with their use. The individual has to decide for themselves what is a better fit for their given situation. "The One" does have some great feedback, and as i said, i will most definitely be utilizing it myself in the near future to assess for myself. :)
 
oh, and gator alumn. did you really bump me down in rep points? lol kill yourself bro. why even waste your time? go enlighten yourself with the link i just posted...
 
anyone with an IQ over the room temperature won't listen to you reps anyways. keep marketing to morons. its ultimately gotten your GDP in the positive, so why change your approach? i'll respect you when you start marketing to a more intelligent and less impulsive audience. reps only care about themselves. all you idiots taking their word for scripture need to wise up.
 
ThrashMetal said:
oh, and gator alumn. did you really bump me down in rep points? lol kill yourself bro. why even waste your time? go enlighten yourself with the link i just posted...
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Yeah. You're a classy one aren't you? That link was already addressed in another long winded thread.

Unlike you, I've tried both products.

Why waste my time? I could ask you the same question. Do some more research. The trolling is played out.
 
pff, ok how about i've read more testimonials saying that between 2 and 3 weeks people were seeing little to no gains from taking "the one" than any other ph I've ever seen.
 
i'd personally put my training program alone (supplement-less) against any other program while that person is cycling "the one". that's how unconfident i am in your product.
 
sorry UF grad, i'm sorry my university (NYU) isn't nearly as prestigious LOL. My education must be flawed. I've based my opinions around actual results and testimonials, more-so than articles. I'll read what you suggest though. Post it here, i'll review it. If I later conclude that I'm flawed, I'll man up and say it. Right here. But my opinions as of now, stand in concrete.
 
Trauma1 said:
As i had said, they both have pros and cons with their use. The individual has to decide for themselves what is a better fit for their given situation. "The One" does have some great feedback, and as i said, i will most definitely be utilizing it myself in the near future to assess for myself. :)
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You know, I could see the two prods working in a stack, especially a longer cycle in the 8 week range. Front load that sucker with The One weeks 1-5 and solidify the gains with 1T-tren weeks 5-8. :D

PCT could be Toco-8, EndoAMP, 2nd Gear, and Drive.

Okay! Who will be the first to log this sumbitch? :D:dl:
 
Aeternitatis said:
You know, I could see the two prods working in a stack, especially a longer cycle in the 8 week range. Front load that sucker with The One weeks 1-5 and solidify the gains with 1T-tren weeks 5-8. :D

PCT could be Toco-8, EndoAMP, 2nd Gear, and Drive.

Okay! Who will be the first to log this sumbitch? :D:dl:
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It's like you read my mind. :D
 
ThrashMetal said:
did you even read the article?
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Yes, and what there is factual that matters? using etioallocholan on the label like all the rest of the products in this category? That we used the Vida animal tissue in vitro A:A numbers like everyone else who sells products in this category does? that
The oxime probably remains intact for much longer in the blood than in the stomach
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Probably? What sort of qualifications does this guy have to make that sort of guess? Theres no listing anywhere of who he is.

So again, what is factual there?
 
Apparently you care enough to down my rep points. Quit wasting your time on the computer "Gator Alumn" and go find a girl. I hear Gainesville is virgin city...
 
you guys dissect pieces of articles that support your opinions. What are you, politicians? Regardless, I've read enough testimonials to support my personal opinion. There is no harder evidence than testimonials. Why care so much for one product that you have to go around trying to influence people to use it? Unless your a rep of course.. I'm done here. I honestly don't care enough to argue over this **** PH anyways.
 
ThrashMetal said:
you guys dissect pieces of articles that support your opinions. What are you, politicians? Regardless, I've read enough testimonials to support my personal opinion. There is no harder evidence than testimonials. Why care so much for one product that you have to go around trying to influence people to use it? Unless your a rep of course.. I'm done here. I honestly don't care enough to argue over this **** PH anyways.
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Then why have you been bothering so far?
 
Aeternitatis said:
You and everyone else who has run it or know someone who has run it..
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I purchased like 4 bottles and gave a few to friends to try.
"Zombie" will be logging the one soon as package I sent him gets there.
I have another good buddy not on AM yet has been on it about to weeks and is up 7 pounds but what pisses me off is he lost a lot of fat so now I gotta catch up. I'll be on "The One" next month and might add AMS new product or PP's product for the hell of it.
 
ThrashMetal said:
Ok, board sponsor. lol. give me a break.
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I've asked repeatedly for what is true in that article, or what qualifications the author has to make guesses, and you still haven't answered either. if you don't think the product is for you after your review of existing logs (both sponsored and unsponsored) thats fine, no problem with that at all. To state that its bunk though is quite a different matter.
 
I don't agree with the hype of this product because of the majority of testimonials i've seen. Thats the reason with the most weight as far as I'm concerned. I thought the article had some very strong arguments. That's all. Just looking at the chemical make-up and comparing that, in it's true entity, does not appear to be a chemical capable of it's claims. But like i've said many times already, most of my opinion has taken shape through reading testimonials. I never meant to be the negative *******, I just threw in my 2 cents and people with no life started giving me negative rep points, which I found hilarious and completely idiotic. Anyways, I really don't care very much for pro-hormone discussions in general. I'd advise people to stick to what they've read worked time and time over. I'm not a fan of rushing to be the first experiment testimonial for a product that has barely been out long enough for anyone to even finish a cycle of it.
 
ThrashMetal said:
I don't agree with the hype of this product because of the majority of testimonials i've seen. Thats the reason with the most weight as far as I'm concerned. I thought the article had some very strong arguments. That's all. Just looking at the chemical make-up and comparing that, in it's true entity, does not appear to be a chemical capable of it's claims. But like i've said many times already, most of my opinion has taken shape through reading testimonials. I never meant to be the negative *******, I just threw in my 2 cents and people with no life started giving me negative rep points, which I found hilarious and completely idiotic. Anyways, I really don't care very much for pro-hormone discussions in general. I'd advise people to stick to what they've read worked time and time over. I'm not a fan of rushing to be the first experiment testimonial for a product that has barely been out long enough for anyone to even finish a cycle of it.
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You can talk to him over PM, your currently hijacking this thread...
 
Na, I'm done posting here anyways. Sorry about that. Never intended to hijack. Although, we are discussing the subject of the thread.
 
Aeternitatis said:
You know, I could see the two prods working in a stack, especially a longer cycle in the 8 week range. Front load that sucker with The One weeks 1-5 and solidify the gains with 1T-tren weeks 5-8. :D

PCT could be Toco-8, EndoAMP, 2nd Gear, and Drive.

Okay! Who will be the first to log this sumbitch? :D:dl:
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Thats what im hoping to do with my 1-t tren and havoc... havoc weeks 1-6 1-t tren weeks 3-6. Hopin for i big jump round week 4 :burnout:.
 
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