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fu**king newbs stop saying no to serms

ahhhh.....good call...how embarrassing...i have no clue who this anthony roberts person is then....mabye he gives good head...oops, i mean advice...
 
I dont know about the advice he gives, I just know about the articles he has written, and I like them, and will reccomend anyone to read them.

as for listening to my wife, well, happy wife happy life.

she doesn't trust medicine that comes from countries like china, india, ect. she has watched too many news reports of drugs from other countries containing all kinds of stuff in them, which is true, but a gamble you pay for buying off the black market.

the tomoxifen I recieved was from india, she saw it, being nosey, and flipped out, so I told her I wouldn't take nolva or other perscription drugs without actually having a doctors prescription. and I flushed the tablets down the toilet to make her happy, so she knew I wouldn't take them (which I would of if she hadn't gotten upset.)

but aside from that, that is the reason I decided to try out otc pct. and if I do need a serm, i'll have to get it from a doctor.

any who, im for serms, but they aren't always needed, or be obtained easily.
 
The problem I see with some of the OTC PCT products is they limit estrogen far too much. They are usually based around an AI which in PCT has it's place but should not be the only thing. Say your on an epithio compound @ 40mg per day and come off. Well your estrogen levels are already in the dumps because we know epithio acts as an AI. So 3 weeks into PCT Joe Shmoe is wondering why his ATD based product has not helped him recover. Homeostasis is the key!

That's why the inverse taper is such a popular protocol. The other problem is with the PH compounds themselves. Especially the 'dry' compounds that lean you out - could be surpressing estrogen. For instance, remember the Delayed gyno with SD ??? It was rumored that SD crushed estrogen levels (dry gains) and that running an AI during PCT (not inversely tapered) was the reason for the crappy recoveries; people were surpressing estrogen levels for far too long and they didn't even know it. That's why Resveratrol is promising, because it acts as a SERM and a *mild* AI at the same.
 
jay, it is almost as if you are getting a bit of commission from a pharma co. with all your propaganda. :)
 
hahaha indeed thread loll

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