ntrlmuscle
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I had posted awhile back about not seeing results with USP Labs Prime......to their credit,i don't respond well to many supps but i WILL attest to the SuperSap working as advertised...can notice an increase in libido and pumps are noticeably better. Keep up the great work fellas
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1-c with a stim in the morning hours before a meal or before cardio is a great time to use
strategicmove
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alwaysgaining
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thanks man, thying it out 2marro morning have a realy early work time.
il do this for a week and report back!
also to day im workin out with SS and 1-C befor i lift
alwaysgaining
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ok dosed 1C and ss like 20 mins befor mi workout......
new PR on dips 100lb db 7 reps then i did a set of 4 reps feel like i had a sledge hammer dropd on mi chest.
i squat hevy and usaly have a spoter when i go 3 plates or more
i did 315x7 the 335x3 no spoter no nuthing
i like the feeling i get its so stong and heavy like on mi face.
its just feels so heavy like theres a magnet puling mi face to the ground.
i was soo calm and focusd! dam, im not a big fan of stims altho the best is R4W and it always puts me in the zone.
i had the same feeling just i had super endurance and i was breathing real slow and mi heart was like thump......thump.....thump, the pumps i got was differnat 2 cant really describe them, similar to AP imo.
new PR on dips 100lb db 7 reps then i did a set of 4 reps feel like i had a sledge hammer dropd on mi chest.
i squat hevy and usaly have a spoter when i go 3 plates or more
i did 315x7 the 335x3 no spoter no nuthing
i like the feeling i get its so stong and heavy like on mi face.
its just feels so heavy like theres a magnet puling mi face to the ground.
i was soo calm and focusd! dam, im not a big fan of stims altho the best is R4W and it always puts me in the zone.
i had the same feeling just i had super endurance and i was breathing real slow and mi heart was like thump......thump.....thump, the pumps i got was differnat 2 cant really describe them, similar to AP imo.
DreamWeaver
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Damn I am going crazy in the gym with wild pumps with Supersap. Jack3d and Prime. It's going to get really nuts when I add AP...
DreamWeaver
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Yah assumed right ... parachute it, I do so on a empty stomach. 1/4 tsp = 900 mg...
scoooter
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What material do you use as a parachute ?
I tried using part of an empty sugar packet but this caused some stomach distress. I've heard of "tissue paper" but I don't know if this is very bio-degradable and the process of making paper may use some hard chemicals which I don't want to digest.
borobulker
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I use light tissue paper. I have friends that use 100% organic hemp rolling papers.
:bandit:
DreamWeaver
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yah I just use light tissue paper...
scoooter
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poopypants
Banned
alright.... after purchasing 5 tubs of this the first release I think its bout damn time I pu this stuff to the test...
Ive been outta commision for a couple months now and will be mostly cutting right now but Im sure Ill be seeing a huge increase in strength considering muscle memory will def come into play here....
Well just to put it out there this is what I will be dosing
SS- 4g(minimum) 3x ed (12g total)
Prime- 9 caps to start.... prob upwards of 12-16 by the end (have 4 bottles on hand)
1-carboxy- 4g am 2g pre workout 6g prebed (12g total)
Jack3d- 2scoops preworkout (with 25-50mg ephedrine from bronkaid crushed and dissolved in)
Drive- 4-6caps ed through a whole BIG bottle till out
As you can see I had quite a stock on hand... had taken advatage of the new years sale in a big way and then ran outta money to even pay the internet bill and my gym membership
But Im back now and using this stack for 4-8 weeks maybe longer (until everything runs out) to help e get back into the swing of things and get the test boosted really high before attacking a pheraplex/Epi cycle.... Probably honestly will make as much progress on this natty stack as the cycle given how many steps backwards I taken physically these last couple months but thats to be expected once again and you gotta love muscle memory.
I will update in this thread as this progresses and may even start a log.... although not so likely as they take up so much time.
Ive been outta commision for a couple months now and will be mostly cutting right now but Im sure Ill be seeing a huge increase in strength considering muscle memory will def come into play here....
Well just to put it out there this is what I will be dosing
SS- 4g(minimum) 3x ed (12g total)
Prime- 9 caps to start.... prob upwards of 12-16 by the end (have 4 bottles on hand)
1-carboxy- 4g am 2g pre workout 6g prebed (12g total)
Jack3d- 2scoops preworkout (with 25-50mg ephedrine from bronkaid crushed and dissolved in)
Drive- 4-6caps ed through a whole BIG bottle till out
As you can see I had quite a stock on hand... had taken advatage of the new years sale in a big way and then ran outta money to even pay the internet bill and my gym membership
But Im back now and using this stack for 4-8 weeks maybe longer (until everything runs out) to help e get back into the swing of things and get the test boosted really high before attacking a pheraplex/Epi cycle.... Probably honestly will make as much progress on this natty stack as the cycle given how many steps backwards I taken physically these last couple months but thats to be expected once again and you gotta love muscle memory.
I will update in this thread as this progresses and may even start a log.... although not so likely as they take up so much time.
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alright.... after purchasing 5 tubs of this the first release I think its bout damn time I pu this stuff to the test...
Ive been outta commision for a couple months now and will be mostly cutting right now but Im sure Ill be seeing a huge increase in strength considering muscle memory will def come into play here....
Well just to put it out there this is what I will be dosing
SS- 4g(minimum) 3x ed (12g total)
Prime- 9 caps to start.... prob upwards of 12-16 by the end (have 4 bottles on hand)
1-carboxy- 4g am 2g pre workout 6g prebed (12g total)
Jack3d- 2scoops preworkout (with 25-50mg ephedrine from bronkaid crushed and dissolved in)
Drive- 4-6caps ed through a whole BIG bottle till out
As you can see I had quite a stock on hand... had taken advatage of the new years sale in a big way and then ran outta money to even pay the internet bill and my gym membership
But Im back now and using this stack for 4-8 weeks maybe longer (until everything runs out) to help e get back into the swing of things and get the test boosted really high before attacking a pheraplex/Epi cycle.... Probably honestly will make as much progress on this natty stack as the cycle given how many steps backwards I taken physically these last couple months but thats to be expected once again and you gotta love muscle memory.
I will update in this thread as this progresses and may even start a log.... although not so likely as they take up so much time.
I would start with 700mgs of 1-carboxy before bed and slowly increase..to much to fast will cause a huge peak of HGH that will interrupt sleep...
Instead of 6 pre bed I would take half that and use it with the Jack3d/ephedrine mix....that is going to be pretty narly BTW!
Steveoph
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Agree. I was going to say that's a massive dose of 1-C prebed, and might cause insomnia. I take 1.8g of 1-C prebed, and I worked my way up to that from 1g or so. Also if you haven't run SS before, perhaps leave out the Drive and see how the USP products stack solo, although it is your own supplement stash to do with as you see fit.
I say do a log poops!
Agree. I was going to say that's a massive dose of 1-C prebed, and might cause insomnia. I take 1.8g of 1-C prebed, and I worked my way up to that from 1g or so. Also if you haven't run SS before, perhaps leave out the Drive and see how the USP products stack solo, although it is your own supplement stash to do with as you see fit.
I say do a log poops!
poopypants
Banned
sounds good jacob!
Ya I always tended to dose 1-carboxy low in the past with great results but I have 4 tubs of it as well and heard of some others dosing high so I was gonna give it a try.
I will most likely take your advice though and switch the workout dose and prebed amounts and slowly work up with it as needed lowering the dose if I seem to be hitting diminishing returns or sleep in this case.
again thanks for commenting on this n helping critique my stack... I def expect the JAck3d Eph. combo to be a kicker and really depending on it as I have more then enough fat that I need to expend thanks to my "beer tasting" quest Ive been on the last couple months.... must say I have quite the collection of bottles now though lol.
Ya I always tended to dose 1-carboxy low in the past with great results but I have 4 tubs of it as well and heard of some others dosing high so I was gonna give it a try.
I will most likely take your advice though and switch the workout dose and prebed amounts and slowly work up with it as needed lowering the dose if I seem to be hitting diminishing returns or sleep in this case.
again thanks for commenting on this n helping critique my stack... I def expect the JAck3d Eph. combo to be a kicker and really depending on it as I have more then enough fat that I need to expend thanks to my "beer tasting" quest Ive been on the last couple months.... must say I have quite the collection of bottles now though lol.
poopypants
Banned
stevo!!! thanks man ya I may start a log... gotta get into the swing of things first, my first few workouts will be riddled with overwhelming DOMS and I will only be dosing the supps to get the juices flowing and hopefully theyl kick right when I start being able to handle more intense workouts again.
At that point I will most likely start the log, always more fun when I actually have something to talk about and right now my workouts will be pretty lame and more of an all body thing to just get the tendons and joints loosened up.... will def take pictures NOW though and then most likely start a log at the appropriate time... needless to say I am far from looking like my avi to the left here, kinda sad but I always love seeing what happens after time off, I tend to get back to where I was quickly then smash right through previous walls/plateaus but this time I have some fat to fight with which is a first since I am naturally and Ecto and really only high cals late night beer drinking and a sedentary lifestyles seems to have finally overcome those skinny boy genes.
again a log is likely otherwise I wouldnt have mentioned it but all in due time my friend, all in due time.
At that point I will most likely start the log, always more fun when I actually have something to talk about and right now my workouts will be pretty lame and more of an all body thing to just get the tendons and joints loosened up.... will def take pictures NOW though and then most likely start a log at the appropriate time... needless to say I am far from looking like my avi to the left here, kinda sad but I always love seeing what happens after time off, I tend to get back to where I was quickly then smash right through previous walls/plateaus but this time I have some fat to fight with which is a first since I am naturally and Ecto and really only high cals late night beer drinking and a sedentary lifestyles seems to have finally overcome those skinny boy genes.
again a log is likely otherwise I wouldnt have mentioned it but all in due time my friend, all in due time.
jakellpet
Banned
1st up welcome the hell back Poops :thumbsup:
. . as well as above, Ive found dosing 3g SuperSap keeps me awake if I take it with my 1-C dose.
. . . so I generally do a very early preWO dose (0330 - hows that for dedication???) and a late afternoon dose about 1600
I would also say the Drive is overkill - do one or the other - maybe a tub of SuperSap, then swap to Drive and back to the Sap?
Also, be prepared for the SuperSap 'Human Tripod' Factor :bandit:
B5150
Legend
Slow down there zippy.
2 scoops of Jacked is quite potent and may leave you tweaking for a good part of the day. I would be very cautious with the addition of ephedrine. Jacked can produce quite a stimulant response and any additional stimulants used in conjunction with it should be done with extreme caution.
Excessive speeding does not produce excessive fat loss.
Not to mention excesses - but don't you think you are going a bit overboard with the SS and 1-C. I hate to break it to you but more is just more and not better. Really, I have plenty of both and there is a diminished return with excess and it is just wasteful.
poopypants
Banned
LOL Im very much looking forward to that tripod effect 
N thanks for the welcome back my friend..... I will likely leave out the drive at first anyways as I tend to like to introduce some things that are redundant at different times to asses the benefit or lack thereof to a stack.... will be trying to run the SS for as long as possible though as to see what long term high dosing may have in terms of effectiveness as well the fact that I will be taking it alongside Prime and really interested in what the two trib cousins will do when stacked together too.
Like I said though the main point of all of this is to get test to naturally skyrocket as high as possible and reap as many test boosting benefits as possible before starting into a summer cycle... Ive always felt the cycles that go the best for me are ones where Ive switched from an NHA stack right into hormonal since the natty high test levels in the beginning seems to bring great synergy to the over all cycle and PCT is always a breeze after.
one last thing I forgot to mention is I will be dosing 25-50mg ATD daily. 25mg before sleep and upon waking
N thanks for the welcome back my friend..... I will likely leave out the drive at first anyways as I tend to like to introduce some things that are redundant at different times to asses the benefit or lack thereof to a stack.... will be trying to run the SS for as long as possible though as to see what long term high dosing may have in terms of effectiveness as well the fact that I will be taking it alongside Prime and really interested in what the two trib cousins will do when stacked together too.
Like I said though the main point of all of this is to get test to naturally skyrocket as high as possible and reap as many test boosting benefits as possible before starting into a summer cycle... Ive always felt the cycles that go the best for me are ones where Ive switched from an NHA stack right into hormonal since the natty high test levels in the beginning seems to bring great synergy to the over all cycle and PCT is always a breeze after.
one last thing I forgot to mention is I will be dosing 25-50mg ATD daily. 25mg before sleep and upon waking
poopypants
Banned
Slow down there zippy.
2 scoops of Jacked is quite potent and may leave you tweaking for a good part of the day. I would be very cautious with the addition of ephedrine. Jacked can produce quite a stimulant response and any additional stimulants used in conjunction with it should be done with extreme caution.
Excessive speeding does not produce excessive fat loss.
Not to mention excesses - but don't you think you are going a bit overboard with the SS and 1-C. I hate to break it to you but more is just more and not better. Really, I have plenty of both and there is a diminished return with excess and it is just wasteful.
LOL, senior cynical steps in !!! LOL
J/K you know I love ya B and glad to hear your side of things as well. Not to mention youve already been dosing this so you input is very welcome.
I have the original Jack3d and have dosed it on numerous occasions already at the 2 scoop dose before I had my hiatus as well as using it occasionally when I had no energy drinks around the house and had to get going..... I also have had a lot of experience with ephedrine going as high as 125mg before when I was working for the man this past fall and would still sleep on it for hours at a time mid day.
I doubt the combo will detrimentally effect me and actually had though I was taking a fairly reserved dose/combo given the effects on me in the past and knowing my personal physiology fairly well..... it should be mentioned that I am also ADD and this may be one reason why most energy supplements dont tend to "wire" me and many times have and opposite effect calming me or almost making me sleepy, Im mostly using them to aid in fatloss anywho, not for energy.
Im still likely to push the SS dosing as well considering my extensive history with bulk powerfull but will most likely be more reserved with the 1-carboxy, no to mention I havnt seen anyone document such high dosing scheme as of yet and it may prove beneficial at an extremely high level... if not I got plenty, dont look at it as a waste and have no problem going Prime solo for a bit and then reintroducing the SS at a lower amount a couple weeks later... this is just an idea and brainstorming outline anywho and the real results wont even be measurable for sometime given my situation and recent lack of activity.
DreamWeaver
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Just consider this I am down to 3 grams once a day of SS and my libido is still off the charts... I am 50, yah I'm a horny 50 but still.... I can't imagine what 12 grams a day would do. If I took 12 grams a day I am certain someone would have to lock me up...
strategicmove
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Just for everyone's comfort..."Tribulosin", one of the constituents of SuperSaponins appears to expel worms! (Anthelmintics are drugs that expels parasites). Reference the below article.
Tribulosin and β-sitosterol-D-glucoside, the anthelmintic principles of Tribulus terrestris M. Deepak, G. Dipankar, D. Prashanth, M.K. Asha, A. Amit, B.V. Venkataraman, Phytomedicine, ISSN: 0944-7113, Vol: 9, Issue: 8,Date: 2002, Pages: 753-756Abstract:
Summary Successive extracts of Tribulus terrestris prepared using petroleum ether, chloroform, 50% methanol and water were tested for anthelmintic activity in-vitrousing the nematode Caenorhabditis elegans. The activity could be detected only in 50% methanol extract which on further bioactivity guided fractionation and chromatographic separation yielded a spirostanol type saponin, tribulosin and β-sitosterol-D-glucoside. Both the compounds exhibited anthelmintic activity with ED 50of 76.25 and 82.50 μg/ml respectively.
Tribulosin and β-sitosterol-D-glucoside, the anthelmintic principles of Tribulus terrestris M. Deepak, G. Dipankar, D. Prashanth, M.K. Asha, A. Amit, B.V. Venkataraman, Phytomedicine, ISSN: 0944-7113, Vol: 9, Issue: 8,Date: 2002, Pages: 753-756Abstract:
Summary Successive extracts of Tribulus terrestris prepared using petroleum ether, chloroform, 50% methanol and water were tested for anthelmintic activity in-vitrousing the nematode Caenorhabditis elegans. The activity could be detected only in 50% methanol extract which on further bioactivity guided fractionation and chromatographic separation yielded a spirostanol type saponin, tribulosin and β-sitosterol-D-glucoside. Both the compounds exhibited anthelmintic activity with ED 50of 76.25 and 82.50 μg/ml respectively.
GotTest
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Imeniaan
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will you be releasing tribulosin on its own? people had amazing libido effects while on tribulosin alone, but then you combined it with puresap and now nobody has great libido enhancing effects. so why would you do such a thing? i would love to try out the tribulosin, but only the tribulosin and not combined with the puresap.
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borobulker
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I (and my GF) beg to differ... haha
borobulker
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We do not offer Tribulosin for sale as a standalone.
strategicmove
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SuperSaponins is back in stock:
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strategicmove
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You mean the thread?