Everyone (except brian) who would like to express their support for, or get more info on companies like Amway and the like please post your support. Really, if you give a sh*t at all about the product whoring that is going on here, speak now. Other wise, Brian, can we quit trying to convince the world how Amway is so much f*cking smarter than every other company out there?
Seriously, there are more reps and company owners in this thread than just about any other, and all the shameless supplement whoring is being done by some guy that obviously just got back from the latest Amway pep rally and is ready to set the world on fire.
Your selling point seems to be the countless amounts of research that the vastly superior company you mention puts forth, despite the fact that the most profound bodybuilding communities (online and otherwise) refuse to embrace their products.
Let me ask you brian, Do you think putting money, or research into a product makes it good? If Nutralite, or whoever you are trying to push, spends X amount of dollars in research, does that mean they will have anything other than a worthless piece of sh*t on their hands when they're done? No, not neccesarily.
Alot of times supplement (and other) companies invest a ton of time and money into a product, spin it and hype it all they can, and then find out through testing that it's worthless, or worse yet, potentially dangerous. They then have a few options:
1) Tell everyone it's great, and sell it anyways. The average workout enthusiast quits after the first couple months anyway, and then some new poor sap will be willing to try their worthless product.
2) Add something that already works (sometimes even if it's dangerous or illeagal) to your product, (do, or don't , mention it on the label, your choice)and then it will at least have some effect.
3) Cancel production. Lose you a$$ in the process, but maintain your integrity and live to fight another day. Get up, dust off your shoulders, and try again.
All three are done in this industry. I can think of companies that have taken each route.
So who do you trust to take option 3? Devoss? Van Andel? ...Really? Not me. I choose to deal with the people who are right here, in this thread and/or on this site. People who stand behind their products, are willing to help you when you need it, and take part in the painfull process of negative feedback when the time comes. Nobody here is hiding in the corner when you tell them their product didn't do sh*t for them. If these guys put out a product that makes me grow a third nipple, they are going to hear about it, and they are going to be exposed as a fraud to the lion's share of their target market. Where is that accountability in Amway? Please...don't answer that...I really don't want to hear about Amway's incredible reputation and their miracle Midas touch they put on every product they sell.
I realize you believe in Amway brian. That's a good thing if you want to gain any traction in sales. You are much more educated on their products than anyone here. You believe in their quality because you've learned the information to back it up. You've been enlightened where we have not.
But just as you don't believe everything you see on youtube, brian, Do you ever consider the source of your info? How diverse is your research on Amway products? Do you get your information from anywhere other than the product pimps themselves?
Rich Devoss and Jay Van Andel were extremely successful, and for good reason. They can market the sh*t out of a product, and they found a way to get other people to make their money for them. These guys were destined to be rich. The tremendous amounts of money that Amway has profited has little to do with the quality of their products.
So please...spare us. Your continuing promotion of these products is, in my opinion, quite disrespectful to those who are here standing behind, and taking accountablitiy for their products by sponsoring this site that we all benefit from.
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