The Phenibut thread

I'm going to take 1-2 grams tonight. Haven't taken it in a while. I'm also going to take a few puffs off the good ol vaporizer. I'll let you guys know how it went tomorrow.
 
Flaw said:
I think this stuff is dangerous. It was great for a few months then I started getting bad withdrawl effects. Anxiety and insomnia. I built permanent tolerance to it too. I'm talking about dosages no greater then 3 grams and atleast 2 weeks breaks in between. I've never felt this same since I used phenibut. I really think it messed up my head. Much more anxiety in the long run. I'd be cautious with this. Others have reported the same.
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there's talk on other boards about the potential for permanent neuropathies from this stuff. no one knows for sure. lots of people say phen withdrawal is similar to withdrawal from benzos...never took benzos but my withdrawal from phen was a week of pure hell...
 
SoCo4Fun said:
I did 1 gram the first night and it was ok then woke up with a headache...I did 2 grams last night and it was awesome and no headache...I did wake up a little woozy though...Now I'm gonna wait until next weekend and try 2.5g...I need to find things to stack with it since I don't drink.
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Anyone ever do any mixes of small doses of similar products?

Such as:
Phenibut
Kanna
PEA
Kratom
Germanium

or any other ingredient mixtures? It would be great to get some recipes going for great mood enhancers as the majority of us are binge drinkers trying to find someway to get past that fat accumulating activity hahaha, i tried to google stuff from other boards but nothing really came up.
 
I took 1 gram last night at about 830 then another gram an hour later and took some hits from the vaporizer before, during, and after. It took till about 10:30 for me to feel anything. BY the time 11:30 came around i found myself falling asleep. This is great for me because i have insomnia and take ambien usually 3 times per week. So I guess marijuana + 2 grams of phenibut = deep sleep. I slept great all night never waking up. I had a little bit of the phenibut hang over. I took 750mg of pea first thing this morning and that took the grogginess away and i feel great. I think next time i will stick between 1-1.5 grams of phenibut.
 
stosh517 said:
there's talk on other boards about the potential for permanent neuropathies from this stuff. no one knows for sure. lots of people say phen withdrawal is similar to withdrawal from benzos...never took benzos but my withdrawal from phen was a week of pure hell...
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After phenibut.. theanine no longer works too. I think this stuff is serious and I'm suprised it's sold legally. I've never tried benzo's either but I've tapped into my gaba system for nearly 10 years. Alcohol, Gaba, valerian, Glutamine, theanine, 5-htp.. anything that would release some gaba cause that's what makes me feel good but I've never tried prescription drugs. Phenibut has to be on that level. It should be monitored. It decreased my sensitivity in my brain big time. My anxiety got so much worse since I used phenibut.
 
Flaw said:
After phenibut.. theanine no longer works too. I think this stuff is serious and I'm suprised it's sold legally. I've never tried benzo's either but I've tapped into my gaba system for nearly 10 years. Alcohol, Gaba, valerian, Glutamine, theanine, 5-htp.. anything that would release some gaba cause that's what makes me feel good but I've never tried prescription drugs. Phenibut has to be on that level. It should be monitored. It decreased my sensitivity in my brain big time. My anxiety got so much worse since I used phenibut.
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when i used phen it was strictly as a sleep aid...never used it to get effed up...i see guys here doing insane "party" amounts...the next day "afterglow" was the seductive/addictive aspect of phen for me...i'd go do a presentation at work and own the room...felt like i could run for president...havent really felt anything permanent since i stopped but who knows down the road...i feel for ya, bro...a gram of taurine seems to relax me pre-bed now...also 1.5g 1-carboxy...but even that i use cautiously and only occasionally.....dipped my finger into a friend's batch of phen recently...they're cutting it with something now...looks, feels like baking soda...stuff i used a year + ago was like a fine salt and tasted very bitter...2 grams of that in one pop and you'd be in a coma...
 
FlawedGrunt said:
Anyone ever do any mixes of small doses of similar products?

Such as:
Phenibut
Kanna
PEA
Kratom
Germanium

or any other ingredient mixtures? It would be great to get some recipes going for great mood enhancers as the majority of us are binge drinkers trying to find someway to get past that fat accumulating activity hahaha, i tried to google stuff from other boards but nothing really came up.
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I orderd 3 of RPNs Strange shots and I'll be trying them out for this purpose...They are a blend of different feel good supps...Let me go find the profile and I'll post it...
 
Here is the ingredients...

Ingredients:
Distilled water, Zingerone, Kanna 95%, 50% Icariin, Phenethylamine, DL-Phenylalanine, Fructose, caffeine, beta-Phenyl-GABA, l-Theanine, Geranamine, Mucuna Pruriens (standardized for 99% l-Dopa), Cnidium Monnieri extract, artificial flavor, l-pyroglutamic acid, Piperine,
 
let me know how those strange shots are, i might buy some pending feedback.
 
stosh517 said:
when i used phen it was strictly as a sleep aid...never used it to get effed up...i see guys here doing insane "party" amounts...the next day "afterglow" was the seductive/addictive aspect of phen for me...i'd go do a presentation at work and own the room...felt like i could run for president...havent really felt anything permanent since i stopped but who knows down the road...i feel for ya, bro...a gram of taurine seems to relax me pre-bed now...also 1.5g 1-carboxy...but even that i use cautiously and only occasionally.....dipped my finger into a friend's batch of phen recently...they're cutting it with something now...looks, feels like baking soda...stuff i used a year + ago was like a fine salt and tasted very bitter...2 grams of that in one pop and you'd be in a coma...
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I agree that this stuff def helps with sleep. Not only does it knock me out but i stay asleep until my alarm clock goes off. I have to dose it like 2 hrs before i go to bed though.
 
joeymutz said:
I agree that this stuff def helps with sleep. Not only does it knock me out but i stay asleep until my alarm clock goes off. I have to dose it like 2 hrs before i go to bed though.
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I want to go balls deep in your avatar's two-hole.
 
stosh517 said:
when i used phen it was strictly as a sleep aid...never used it to get effed up...i see guys here doing insane "party" amounts...the next day "afterglow" was the seductive/addictive aspect of phen for me...i'd go do a presentation at work and own the room...felt like i could run for president...havent really felt anything permanent since i stopped but who knows down the road...i feel for ya, bro...a gram of taurine seems to relax me pre-bed now...also 1.5g 1-carboxy...but even that i use cautiously and only occasionally.....dipped my finger into a friend's batch of phen recently...they're cutting it with something now...looks, feels like baking soda...stuff i used a year + ago was like a fine salt and tasted very bitter...2 grams of that in one pop and you'd be in a coma...
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It sure gave you confidence didn't it? First time I took it I felt like superman. Like I could do anything and nothing in this world could stop me. It was never that of a intense feeling again. It was completely euphoric the first time. It worked great for stress and great if you had to public speak. Eventually it just made me feel out of it and then the other sides came.

For anxiety now I use magesium tauranate. It works pretty good. The combination of magnesium and taurine is great. I also use a tea called nighty night. It's usda organic and works better then any other tea I've ever tried. Its about $5 for 16 packets at the store and well worth it. Nothing else comes close. Celestial seasonings is poor crap. It's great to take in the evening to relax. Since I started taking that I've gotten more sleep then I have in months. It's potent.
 
Flaw said:
It sure gave you confidence didn't it? First time I took it I felt like superman. Like I could do anything and nothing in this world could stop me. It was never that of a intense feeling again. It was completely euphoric the first time. It worked great for stress and great if you had to public speak. Eventually it just made me feel out of it and then the other sides came.

For anxiety now I use magesium tauranate. It works pretty good. The combination of magnesium and taurine is great. I also use a tea called nighty night. It's usda organic and works better then any other tea I've ever tried. Its about $5 for 16 packets at the store and well worth it. Nothing else comes close. Celestial seasonings is poor crap. It's great to take in the evening to relax. Since I started taking that I've gotten more sleep then I have in months. It's potent.
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very interesting info...thnx for sharing...
 
Last year I used Phen for a short while during finals in college, started with 1/2 gram on an empty stomach and the another in an hour at first. Built up a tolerance to it pretty quickly. So I dosed maybe twice a week then for some reason I tried a higher dose and it was HORRIFIC no sedative or antianxiety effect just the worst headache of my life. At first it is really potent but with repeat uses the theraputic window gets pretty narrow.

To the guy who asked about kratom I just spent the last 2 days trialing Kratom extract in caps 1-2 gram dose Kratom is much more of a opiate oxycondone or hydrocondone type of effect, I think Phen has an calming effect at lower doses with out causing you to feel tired but with increased doses it for sure is more of a drunk trip.

Personally I think the best for good solid sleep was bulk powerfull, try the new powerfull and did not notice anything even close to the awesome feelings of well being and sweet sleep that I got from the bulk stuff. But I just capped my first 100 grams of 1-C and I heard it is just as good as bulk powerfull was for the HGH effects so Ill see tonight just w8tn for the old belly to clear so I can take the 1-C on an empty stomach

Grace and Peace
 
can anyone compare the effects of phenibut with the effects of PEA? with PEA i just get a strong buzz for like 15 mintues and then nothing (taken on an empty stomach)
 
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Dats funny I was thinking da same thing I noticed when I opened da can it look just like some gaba I have in the cupboard, which I tried once or twice but never really got any benefit from so its just kinda chillin. One other thing I noticed about the different mix of phenibut besides taste and appearance is it seems this compound is less harsh almost a more refined experience and I swear b for I got 50grams of ythe salt preparation for the same price I paid this time and got 100grams of this new version

Any dosage suggestions with the Gaba ?

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So.....i took about 4 grams of phenibut yesterday around 10pm. I'm STILL fukced up from the stuff 12 hours later, lol. I hadn't used it in a while, and man it hit me hard last night. :31: :biglaugh:


It's a unique feeling, which is why i like it. I slept like a freakin' ROCK last night.
 
I got some yesterday after reading this thread. I took 1g at 8PM, didn't feel anything so I took another gram at 10. Nothing. Went to bed at 1AM and I guess my sleep was a little better.... I felt a lot more rejuvenated when I woke up, not tired or sluggish at all.

So today I took a gram (parachuted) about an hour ago as well as a few mg insufflated and roughly 400mg sublingually. I can still feel it in my nose... it had a bit of a burn to it but nothing unbearable. I plan on having some drinks tonight, so I will report back with the results.
 
Trauma1 said:
So.....i took about 4 grams of phenibut yesterday around 10pm. I'm STILL fukced up from the stuff 12 hours later, lol. I hadn't used it in a while, and man it hit me hard last night. :31: :biglaugh:


It's a unique feeling, which is why i like it. I slept like a freakin' ROCK last night.
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On an empty stomach 1.5-2g knocks the edge right off of me within half an hour. It quickly dispels anxiety and is cheerfully sedative to me. It is really the only "supplement" that has ever produced that feeling.
 
I have read in this thread that the withdrawl effects are not desirable at all....especially in someone prone to Anxiety/Depression.

Is there any dose that is therapeutic and safe in the LT?
Is this a substance that should not be taken everyday at any dose?
 
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Yes, you are correct. One needs to be careful when assessing their tolerance. I recommend beginning at the very lowest dose to produce the desired results. I also recommend avoiding habitual use as you will develop a tolerance and as a result may begin to increase doses.

I have found that if I use it for 3 or 4 days in a row (usually my high stress work nights) and then take off on weekends I have not had issues with withdrawal. YMMV.
 
B5150 said:
Yes, you are correct. One needs to be careful when assessing their tolerance. I recommend beginning at the very lowest dose to produce the desired results. I also recommend avoiding habitual use as you will develop a tolerance and as a result may begin to increase doses.

I have found that if I use it for 3 or 4 days in a row (usually my high stress work nights) and then take off on weekends I have not had issues with withdrawal. YMMV.
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Thanks for the reply.
What is the dose for those 3-4 days?
 
I try to never go over 2 grams a night.

You would be well suited to start at 1g and assess your response.

I seriously encourage you to dose empty stomach. There have been times when I have had meals and I can be non-responsive even at 3 or more grams.
 
B5150 said:
On an empty stomach 1.5-2g knocks the edge right off of me within half an hour. It quickly dispels anxiety and is cheerfully sedative to me. It is really the only "supplement" that has ever produced that feeling.
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I never found it mattered that much taking it on an empty stomach or not in terms of overall effects demonstrated. It should most definitely kick in quicker though on an empty stomach. I never really used it for anxiety type issues, so i'll have to try a dose like that and see how it treats me.
 
Esox Express said:
I got some yesterday after reading this thread. I took 1g at 8PM, didn't feel anything so I took another gram at 10. Nothing. Went to bed at 1AM and I guess my sleep was a little better.... I felt a lot more rejuvenated when I woke up, not tired or sluggish at all.

So today I took a gram (parachuted) about an hour ago as well as a few mg insufflated and roughly 400mg sublingually. I can still feel it in my nose... it had a bit of a burn to it but nothing unbearable. I plan on having some drinks tonight, so I will report back with the results.
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Ok to follow up..... At around 5 I took 120mg 1,3 dimethylamylamine, dissolved in crystal light+water. I fell asleep about 5 minutes later. I woke up at 5:30 and it was a very weird feeling upon wakening. Not bad, just different. It was like I was completely blacked out while I was sleeping.... kind of hard to explain. After that I was noticeably "altered". I had a nice little body buzz going, nothing too intense, but definitely enough to be friendly and in a good mood.

The geranium wore off at around 6, and there is a bit of a crash involved with that. Combined with the sedation I was feeling from the Phenibut, I was needless to say OUT like a rock. When I woke up (30ish minutes ago) I had the same feeling of being totally out of it while I was asleep. Its almost like I am in another world while I was sleeping, and have absolutely zero recollection of it. Right now, I have a full body numbness/relaxed feeling, and overall I feel very relaxed and stress free. I would be pretty content to sit on my couch for the rest of my night and veg out.

I'm still debating going out tonight, but I will report back once again if I decide to drink a beer or two.
 
Ok, after reading this thread I decided to give it a try. I took 2.5 grams(about one teaspoon) at 8pm, I got a call to play poker at 10pm, I didn't feel anything from the phen so I decided to play. We did smoke some serious skunk(maybe too much), but on my way home at 3am, I felt seriously ****ed up, barely made it home, and stumbled up to bed, basically spinning. Woke up ruined, wrecked. It felt like I had been spinning around really fast and then stopped all day, was throwing up all day, basically lost a whole day. That was on Friday, this is monday and I still feel just a little off. This stuff is no joke at all. Not sure I will try it again, If I do it will be at a much lower dose.
 
So On Saturday night I took a total of about 5 grams spread over the course of 5 hours. I started taking shots at around 10PM, with another gram just for good measure. Honestly, I felt absolutely nothing. Even after 6 shots and a beer in an hour and a half, I felt less buzzed than I should have been after that much alcohol.

Very disappointed in this stuff. This weekend I guess I will try it all at once, maybe like 5 grams + a gram or two an hour later.
 
I purchased primaforce phenibut 250 milligrams caps. I took 4 and felt nothing. Then I took 6 the next day. the only thing i noticed was that I was tired the next day. I didn't fall asleep fast or anything. I will return the bottle tomorrow.
 
jipper12 said:
I purchased primaforce phenibut 250 milligrams caps. I took 4 and felt nothing. Then I took 6 the next day. the only thing i noticed was that I was tired the next day. I didn't fall asleep fast or anything. I will return the bottle tomorrow.
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Hmm, that's pretty weird.. primaFORCE has quality stuff.

I picked up the bulk pheni powder from prima and it seems to be more potent then the SNS brand pheni I bought a month earlier at a lower dose.
 
AK32408 said:
Hmm, that's pretty weird.. primaFORCE has quality stuff.

I picked up the bulk pheni powder from prima and it seems to be more potent then the SNS brand pheni I bought a month earlier at a lower dose.
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I use the primaforce powder...that **** is awesome...
 
Update**I tried a few more doses with the caps and nothing***dont buy the caps unless you plan on taking more then 8, because 8 does nothing. The didn't have the dam powder.

Has anyone took that kratom or kava? I'm thinking of getting those next. any idea on getting the right product this time? thanks
 
jipper12 said:
Update**I tried a few more doses with the caps and nothing***dont buy the caps unless you plan on taking more then 8, because 8 does nothing. The didn't have the dam powder.

Has anyone took that kratom or kava? I'm thinking of getting those next. any idea on getting the right product this time? thanks
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Is kava in the same category?
 
I've used the caps and bulk powders, both more than 2 times each and I've never noticed a difference between the two. Not sure why you say to avoid the caps honestly, maybe you just don't react to phenibut.
 
I took 5 grams (Bulk NP powder) on an empty stomach yesterday first thing in the morning, and I refrained from eating anything for the next 3 hours, just to be safe. I actually did notice a difference this time. I felt pretty relaxed, but nothing like some of the stories I have read on this thread. The thing I did like was that it's effects lasted for a long time.... I can still feel some lingering effects right now (27 hours later). I also got some great sleep last night and woke up very rejuvenated.

I don't think I can afford to keep taking 5g doses, though, which is too bad because I like this product.
 
I am getting my Phenibut made by SNS tomorrow. Pretty excited. Will be taking it with RPN's "Strange Ecstasy". Should be blitzed out of my mind. lulz
 
I take phenibut with jaked before my workout,it is like taking X ,I could dance at the Gym,the problem is that I can't go to the gym without phenibut because I am shy!!
I am on phenibut since 2 years and the effects are still here,If you want to take it for a long time take it one day ,one off(you still feel the effects of the day before)and rest for the week end,I took it everyday for 3 months up to 10 grams a day but I started to feel depressed and anxious less sleep,so don't take everyday or keep it when you need it!
 
Whats the deal with Krapton? Anyone use it, or have any feedback? Types etc..
 
why is it recommended NOT to take phenibut/PEA together

cognitive nutrition's dosing protocol says "Do not take phenibut before taking pea."

but RPN's strange ecstasy shots have both
 
pump3d said:
why is it recommended NOT to take phenibut/PEA together

cognitive nutrition's dosing protocol says "Do not take phenibut before taking pea."

but RPN's strange ecstasy shots have both
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It shouldn't really matter. PEA has a half life of like 15 minutes.
 
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