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BIGGER, FASTER, STRONGER: Snag's Recipe for a [NATURAL] Recomp, Competition Style!

There is 3mg of Y per tab Snag, if you didn't already know.
 
snagency said:
REALLY?? And here I thought I was being original..
So you noted some effects? I'm looking for that little extra edge for dryness, thought it fit the bill.
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Sorry, you're not the orignal! I've used DIM for the last 2 years on and off.
It will help you lean out and dry up some. But it keeps the good estro on the up and up. Nice if you have problems with stiff joints as you dry out. Plus the libido stays strong.
Strong like bull, hung like buffalo!! :laugh2::saevilw::naughty:
 
Hey Snag, got a question for you regarding carbs post-workout.
The way I see it is you use carbs for fuel right, so post-workout since your not doing anything the rest of the day (in my case) that leaves it just sitting around doing nothing which can result in fat storage.
Now I know everyone recomends carbs post workout for insulin and nutrient uptake in your muscle cells, BUT since I'm doing an amino mixture after a workout, which is already broken down enough to go right into the blood stream to my muscles, why would I need the insulin spike?
Your blood circulation is VERY high during/following a workout, so in my opinion getting more from an insulin spike isn't necassary, and there are also studies where people still gain (like me) from not doing carbs post-workout.
I know you may gain more from doing it post-workout, but based from what I've said do you think it's that necassary as far as building muscle is concerned?
 
AZMIDLYF said:
There is 3mg of Y per tab Snag, if you didn't already know.
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Yep..too much for me.
I will say tho. T-911 and Prime stacked sounds like an awesome combo for sure, again if one can handle the Y. :yeah:
thundergod said:
Sorry, you're not the orignal! I've used DIM for the last 2 years on and off.
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Ahahaaa.. so I'm just an original in my own mind then. :lol:
I think this is the second time in this log I've found that somebody has beaten me to the punch..
Thanks for the feedback brother -- exactly what the research I've been reading says, but I have yet to talk to anybody (until you now) who's actually done it straight. It seems to be a compound in a lot of prop blends out there, but I want this isolated.
 
wrasslin116 said:
Hey Snag, got a question for you regarding carbs post-workout.
The way I see it is you use carbs for fuel right, so post-workout since your not doing anything the rest of the day (in my case) that leaves it just sitting around doing nothing which can result in fat storage.
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The idea is to take advantage of that 'anabolic window' of opportunity..
Yes, the BCAA's will aid in preservation/growth/recovery, but shuttling quality carbs following this within that 'window' is equally important, and not necessarily for the insulin spike (altho in this timeframe, that is a good thing).
The body will react differently to carbs/insulin during this time; if done properly, my belief is little to none will be stored to adipose.
That being said: if you want to run the protocol alonside a keto-ish dietary intake, then yes - it will still be an extremely beneficial format, especially for muscle preservation..
 
snagency said:
The idea is to take advantage of that 'anabolic window' of opportunity..
Yes, the BCAA's will aid in preservation/growth/recovery, but shuttling quality carbs following this within that 'window' is equally important, and not necessarily for the insulin spike (altho in this timeframe, that is a good thing).
The body will react differently to carbs/insulin during this time; if done properly, my belief is little to none will be stored to adipose.
That being said: if you want to run the protocol alonside a keto-ish dietary intake, then yes - it will still be an extremely beneficial format, especially for muscle preservation..
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Ok makes sense..
I'm just to paranoid since during winter literaly besides morning cardio and weights, I sit or lay around all day.
Any other time of the year I'm up and around doing something and running at night also which is what leads me to believe when I'm not doing those things the carbs get stored as fat.
I'm still going to give the carbs a go next week like promised..
Which would you recomend, 30g WMS with the amino shake, or 1/2-1 cup oats with post workout meal?
 
snagency said:
I don't think cottage cheese before bed (or a shake for that matter) is a horrible thing, but yeah, my preference would be to not do so.
Now, what I do think is overrated, is setting your alarm clock to wake up in the middle of the night to drink a shake or slam some BCAA's. Know a few guys who do that; my feeling is continuous & uninterupted zzz's is far more important than waking to get some protein in ya..
That being said, I often do wake up in the middle of the night (like at least once, sometimes twice to pee), since I drink so much damn water, and in cutting periods, sure - I'll take advantage of some BCAA's laying next to my bed and pop them, encouraging not only protein synthesis, but some fat-shedding effect as well. I just make the distinction that I don't pre-set an alarm, or roam out to the kitchen to grab some aminos, to do so.
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HAHA, nice excuse Snag, you don't set the alarm clock to wake you up, instead - you just make sure you drink enough water ! :lol: :)
 
wrasslin116 said:
Ok makes sense..
Which would you recomend, 30g WMS with the amino shake, or 1/2-1 cup oats with post workout meal?
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NO!! :nono: Don't disrupt the bloodflow/amino uptake with WMS; the BCAA's following training is still that alone..
I think a perfect blend for you (if you're looking to keep it at 50g carb intake) would be a small banana, 15g WMS, 1/4 cup oats, 20-30 minutes following the BCAA intake..
Alternatively, do 25g WMS with 1/2 cup oats (I'm just partial to having a piece of some kind of fruit at this time).
 
snagency said:
Hahaaaa..you know I'm just playin' man.
You could spend all day going thru these things, geez..

EDIT: it'll be interesting to see how much fun DragonFly has with all these!! :D
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TimberLakers said:
I was thinking the same thing... but she uses about 30 times more than this already.
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It is nice when people recognize your talents ! :rofl:
 

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Ok here's how I'm going to do it..
Still have my amino shake post-workout
30 min later my egg whites+ half cup oats and a banana.
 
wrasslin116 said:
Ok here's how I'm going to do it..
Still have my amino shake post-workout
30 min later my egg whites+ half cup oats and a banana.
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I like that.
And Wrasslin, I have to add: if you are worried about any adipose storage, this is where the beauty of AP lies; add that to your aresnal, and that becomes a non-issue.
 
snagency said:
Haha, nice little side benefit eh? ;)
What's shaking D? Been missing ya the last few days.
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Been really busy at work Snag, I managed to get my lowest low in terms of sleep, 2 days in a row running the 4hr format, fun, fun, fun....NOT :puppy_dog_eyes:

Nice new AVI by the way :D
 
snagency said:
I like that.
And Wrasslin, I have to add: if you are worried about any adipose storage, this is where the beauty of AP lies; add that to your aresnal, and that becomes a non-issue.
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Ah yeah.. If only I had some AP! That is one of my all time favorite supps, I just don't have the money right now and won't have the money for a while.
I had AP last year during winter and I was doing about 1.5 cup oats and a banana post workout and I was staying as lean as I was when I was very active like spring/summer/fall, didn't gain any fat at all it was great.
 
Day #23 Quads/Hams/Calves/Abs

Awesome, AWESOME leg session this morning, fried dem wheels good.. energy rocked thruout, grooving on Rocky music again, intensity thru the roof.
So here's how it went down:

Warm-up BB squats, DB jump squats, DB lunges, DB Romanian deads, glute ham raises, single-leg DB calf raises (off plate), ab work. Brisk pace thruout; my stamina has really come around here lately. Good thing too - rest periods will continue to get shorter! Was very pleased with the DB jump squats, as the last time I did these (been awhile) I had to quit before I finished due to the pain in my knee. Absolutely no pain this time - it's all good! :AR15firing:
 
Sounds like a good leg workout routine! I am doing pretty much the same tomorrow except all BB not DB, and no romanian deads (which are my favourite ham exercise!)

Glad to hear the knee is feeling OK; mine usually only hurt if I've been running too much, or my squat form is poor and my knees protrude too far.
 
Thanks Steve. Yeah that's actually one of my fav pairings, lunges followed by Romanian deads, love it. Today's whole particular format is a favorite! And agree, the Romanian dead is most definitely my staple hammy developer.
Have fun with yours tomorrow! :thumbsup:
 
Meal #4. I know, I know - you guys are getting tired of all the food pics.. and this one isn't even original. But I just can't help myself; something about the mix of colors hypnotizes me..

BTW - Iron Lungz, where's this recipe at bro? :stick: Got 2 meals of tuna on tap for tomorrow..
 

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Is that ff spray cheese or mustard? Those sweet taters look ballin too

im going to come to your house and :ninja: your food**

**if you couldn't tell thats a ninja smiley
 
OCCFan023 said:
Is that ff spray cheese or mustard?
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Cheese spray?!? What's that? :nono: Snag only rolls with mustard bro!

Meal #5.. odd, yet deliciously delightful & fulfilling mix.
1 egg roll, 4oz turkey breast, 2oz 96% beef, and salad with my Ken's dressing mix.
 

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Cheese Roll Video
Possibly the strangest pagan frolic ever to grace your monitor. High-in-calcium craziness as contestants chase a chunk of cheese down a ridiculous slope. Check out this vid of cheese rolling from the Coopers Hill Cheese Roll in Gloucestershire, England's home of silly.

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:nono: As much as I like odd exercises & fitness events, this one's a bit over the top for me.. :nono:
 
:reporter: Snag Storm gearing up for some Blitzkrieg blasting of back & bi's..
More snow overnight, gonna loosen up here with a bit of shoveling.
Apologies to all in the Midwest/Northeast for all the fallout from my Storm expenditure. :dance2:
 
snagency said:
:reporter: Snag Storm gearing up for some Blitzkrieg blasting of back & bi's..
More snow overnight, gonna loosen up here with a bit of shoveling.
Apologies to all in the Midwest/Northeast for all the fallout from my Storm expenditure. :dance2:
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I hope your back and bi's workout goes as well as mine went this morning!! Sorry I didn't around to your log yesterday. Had a lot of shit come up.
Squashed it all!!! :chairshot::smashfreakB:
Wow.....that workout was freakin awesome!! :saeek:
 
Day #24 Back/Arms

I sound like a freakin' broken record here, but... man, intensity keeps getting more and more intense every session! Every time I think I can't take this up another notch, I surprise myself. Just on fire this morning, strong like bull, endurance like Lance Armstrong, ahaaaa..

The (non-cheese :D) rollout: pull-ups with the perfect pull-up attachment, incline DB rows, seated D-grip pulley rows, EZ-bar curls, hi-pulley single-arm cable curls (from the side), low-pulley cable curls, skullcrushers, V-bar tricep pushdowns. 75sec rests thruout, everything mostly in 12-20 rep range.

Unbelievable pump; feeling full & ginormous from my boost in carbs yesterday..
Altho I have fantastic synergy going on with my chosen supplements right now, I can feel the Prime just rocking my world. It's that uber-intense, never get tired feeling that I went thru this same period last year (have I said that already? :35:).. massive pump all day long.. I am just on top of the world right now, cojones feeling rather large! :smashfreakB: :angryfire: (sorry for that inclusion ladies, just telling it like it is..)
 
They say the backside of the huricane is the strongest...hold on boys!! Finish strong Snags.
 
You smoked it snag! Set it on fire! :angryfire: A little rage goes a long way in the gym. I like your selection of exercises. Working out at home is never boring. I can come up with so many variations, angles, attachments,.....it's glorious.
So you have some of those perfect pullup bars, huh?? What about the perfect pushup bars? Is that next on the wishlist? I'm getting ready to expand my equipment here soon.
Can you tell that I love working out??!!:33:
 
Yeah I was checking out those Perfect Push-ups, it actually looks pretty useful. Might pick it up since I can get 'em cheap. I absolutely love the Pull-up attachment, wife got that for me last year (since she's reading along with this thread now - several pages behind - I'll drop her some love to find for when she gets to this point.. :love: :boobies: :heart: ..there, that oughtta get me in good graces!) ;) The angles you can work on that pull-up are the shizz for development & some nice cuts.
 
snagency said:
Yeah I was checking out those Perfect Push-ups, it actually looks pretty useful. Might pick it up since I can get 'em cheap. I absolutely love the Pull-up attachment, wife got that for me last year (since she's reading along with this thread now - several pages behind - I'll drop her some love to find for when she gets to this point.. :love: :boobies: :heart: ..there, that oughtta get me in good graces!) ;) The angles you can work on that pull-up are the shizz for development & some nice cuts.
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Nice. I'll try to watch my language since the "missus" is reading. I don't want you to get......:spankme: LOL But I bet you'd like that!! ha ha
I've thought about getting one of those perfect pullup attachments. I haven't done chins in years. And they rock!! To be able to do them while supinating your hands would be sweet!!
Chins are so much better for your back development that pulldowns alone. There's just something different about them. Look at guys who have awesome backs and check out their routines. You'll usually find some wide-grip pullups on the list. It was one of Arnold's favorite back movements.
 
I just saw a commercial for that thing that you can hook on door frames and do pullups in different grips, as well as pushups on the floor, and dips...It was only thirty bucks.
 
thundergod said:
Nice. I'll try to watch my language since the "missus" is reading. I don't want you to get......:spankme: LOL But I bet you'd like that!! ha ha
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:twisted: hehehe.. :toofunny:
I've thought about getting one of those perfect pullup attachments. I haven't done chins in years. And they rock!! To be able to do them while supinating your hands would be sweet!!
Chins are so much better for your back development that pulldowns alone. There's just something different about them. Look at guys who have awesome backs and check out their routines. You'll usually find some wide-grip pullups on the list. It was one of Arnold's favorite back movements.
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Oh HELL yes bro, I groove on chins & pull-ups IMMENSELY. In fact, if you can do a pull-up, it renders behind-neck pulldowns obsolete..
I installed a pull-up bar into my ceiling couple years back, notched holes in the ceiling and attached it to the studs in my attic - one of the best investments I've ever made my man.
Supinating your hands in motion like that w/ the perfect pull-up takes things to another level for sure!
 
snagency said:
Day #25 Rest Snag Storm gets some much needed R & R.
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You deserve it brougham. Time to recover, replenish, and rejuvenate. Get some nice "Odin-sleep"!! :yawn2::sleeping1::yawn:
 
Log still going strong...these meals yo they are driving me crazy...good thing i am bulking because its allowing me to keep my cals up easily :p
 
Yah for width I would have to agree pullups are irreplacable. I just have such a hard time with them when I am big and now with my shoulder... there's just no way.
 
We are in the eye of the huricane....brace yourselves for the second half and the strongest part of the storm!!
Snag, I know you use P-slin post w/o now. Do you follow this protocol while bulking also or do you use it pre w/o like the bottle says to? Thanks..
 
AZMIDLYF said:
We are in the eye of the huricane....brace yourselves for the second half and the strongest part of the storm!!
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;) Right on bro.. very true.

In answer to your Pslin question: Pslin is more versatile than most give it credit for; not on the level of AP, but while these are similar products, it's like comparing apples & oranges..
In my bulk (by this I refer simply to increased cals/carbs, not just eating everything in sight), I use Pslin for breakfast (preworkout meal) as well as postworkout meal. Anytime my carbs are 60-100g, and I'm not overly concerned with blocking fat absorption. I pick my spots.
Also, what type of carbs being used is a consideration as well. But yes, this can be used more than 1x daily for sure..
 
Couple supp updates: picked up some Purple Wraath, will be throwing this into the mix now. I think I mentioned already that Nitro-E8 is gone; as much as I love this product, it'll stay gone for the duration. I'm pretty well locked in to my on-hand supply now; PW will be dosed both as part of my post/pre w/o consumption.
As well, bringing L-carnitine into the mix starting tomorrow. Cals may dip to 2300-2350, so it's time I guess. 500mg tab upon rising, same at bed; 1g liquid (powered by small amount of glycerol) in my preworkout supp mix.
Also extending the time between last meal & bedtime; inserting 5g BCAA dose into my bedtime mix.
 
snagency said:
Couple supp updates: picked up some Purple Wraath, will be throwing this into the mix now. I think I mentioned already that Nitro-E8 is gone; as much as I love this product, it'll stay gone for the duration. I'm pretty well locked in to my on-hand supply now; PW will be dosed both as part of my post/pre w/o consumption.
As well, bringing L-carnitine into the mix starting tomorrow. Cals may dip to 2300-2350, so it's time I guess. 500mg tab upon rising, same at bed; 1g liquid (powered by small amount of glycerol) in my preworkout supp mix.
Also extending the time between last meal & bedtime; inserting 5g BCAA dose into my bedtime mix.
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More goodies... man I think I take a lot of supps and then I read your lineup and don't feel like I'm overdoing it anymore... You sir a a Supp whore.. not that there's anything wrong with that... :fing02::Eyecrazy:
 
Had a question for you snag? What is your favorite exercises for building size in your biceps? And the rep ranger that has helped you the most for that? I am just wondering b/c it seems we have very similar body types so maybe what helped you will help me too.
 
hman85 said:
Had a question for you snag? What is your favorite exercises for building size in your biceps? And the rep ranger that has helped you the most for that? I am just wondering b/c it seems we have very similar body types so maybe what helped you will help me too.
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Variety is my favorite exercise man! I hit a lot of different exercises, lot of different angles.
Generally, I enjoy working in the higher rep ranges as a rule. Not to say I won't drop down to 8-10 reps for biceps, but I mainly work 12-15 for hypertrophy, and will work in the 20 rep range as well. Personally, I think my bi's lack in width, the big 'ball' effect, but I also think they go with my physique and what I strive to achieve.
 
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