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Bending the Spoon. Enter the "Shred" Matrix...

Irish Cannon said:
Ya. BW and I just take the pills and trust it does what it's supposed to. :lol:
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lol. I pass it with Resolve, let him do the molecular level thinking then have him explain it to me. I try to understand what the product is that I am taking, cause I want to be able to explain to my friends what kind of supp is helping me lose fat.

It works that way. :)
 
babywifey said:
lol. I pass it with Resolve, let him do the molecular level thinking then have him explain it to me. I try to understand what the product is that I am taking, cause I want to be able to explain to my friends what kind of supp is helping me lose fat.

It works that way. :)
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Ya, I used to do that, but now I just say, "Yo, take dis shiz dawg. Is get you hayyouuuggge!"

Or to a female, "Hour-glass figure in a bottle, baby!"

:lol:

Nah, I try to read up on everything. I don't get too into the chemistry of stuff, but I do like to understand the science behind what it does and how it does it.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Ya, I used to do that, but now I just say, "Yo, take dis shiz dawg. Is get you hayyouuuggge!"

Or to a female, "Hour-glass figure in a bottle, baby!"

:lol:

Nah, I try to read up on everything. I don't get too into the chemistry of stuff, but I do like to understand the science behind what it does and how it does it.
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That there is Resolves job... I am not chem minded and he is way too smart and way too good at analyzing stuff. Not to mention that he loves getting into those details, so I leave it to him....:D
 
Shred Matrix: Day 3

I took my first dose of SM at 8:30am with breakfast. I noticed that throughout the morning I was more energetic than normal, particularly aware of my surroundings and a bit more focused as well. It was very nice. I had no nausea, and I have had an appetite. :thumbsup: at about 2 pm I started feeling a bit run down and I took a second pack at around 4pm. I haven't had a nap today, and I had a difficult time sleeping last night (perhaps due to my late afternoon dose of SM yesterday) so I am particularly tired.

Workout:

Today was an off day, so I didn't lift weights, but I did go to the gym with a friend this morning to show her some basics. I also got some sprints in while I was there. Will be back lifting tomorrow morning. :)
 
This video made me laugh so hard I cried! I had to post it in my log... watch their faces:

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That video is very popular. There are literally dozens of remixes of it. They are all hilarious!


"OUCH Chawly, that really huht... and it's still huhtin"
 
pmiller383 said:
Piston did a good job explaining the Phaseolamin for the starches, but what if a few do get converted into simple sugars or you decide F*@& this diet Im eating some honey straight from the bear......
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That can become a problem though, it is called supplement abuse&misuse "I don't have to worry about sugar 'cause the pills will take care of it". :fool2:

Well in that case some of the other nutrient repartioners in the Shred are going to kick in and help activate your active transport proteins at the cellular level so that your blood glucose levels will drop because of the increased uptake and sensitivity. The ingredients mainly responsible for this are Gymnema, ALA , Chronium, and the Corosolic acid in the Glucotriml. The effects of these are not going to be as strong as something like Anabolic Pump where you have to eat a good deal of carbs after but they will make a noticable difference if you do consume some extra carbs along the way.
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AAAAH !! Now you provoked the science-nerd into discussion !!!! :lol:

There are obviously genetic differences that dictate how well someone responds to carbs, some people are sensitive, some are not. Generally, the later group will find this kind of supplementation particularly beneficial. The key really is to divert the transport of glucose to liver and shove as much as possible into muscle cells. This is where both ALA and corosolic acid come into play. If I'm not mistaken, ALA has an insulin mimicking effect whereby it shuttles glucose to GLUT4 receptors on muscle cells whereas corosolic acid (one of the three main ingredients in Anabolic Pump), increases the number of GLUT4 on muscle cell membranes by stimulating its cellular transport.


I really noticed the Sugar stop if I would take a Shred before my workout and then drink an intraworkout drink composed of PeptoPro and Dextrose. If done with correct timing this combination will help you retain a lot of muscle while cutting and maybe even gain a little bit despite a caloric deficit.
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Yeah, well if you want to win the game you don't only need good cards, you also need to KNOW how to play them :)

....
Stumbled on this:

Corosolic acid Research
Effect of corosolic acid on postchallenge plasma glucose levels.
Diabetes Res Clin Pract. 2006 Mar 18; Fukushima M, Matsuyama F, Ueda N, Egawa K, Takemoto J, Kajimoto Y, Yonaha N, Miura T, Kaneko T, Nishi Y, Mitsui R, Fujita Y, Yamada Y, Seino Y. Department of Diabetes and Clinical Nutrition, Graduate School of Medicine, Kyoto University, Kyoto, Japan; Health Informatics Research Group, Translational Research Informatics Center, Foundation for Biomedical Research and Innovation, 1-5-4, Minatojima-minamimachi, Chuo-ku, Kobe, Japan.

In this study, 31 subjects were orally administered 10mg corosolic acid or a placebo, on different occasions, in a capsule 5min before the 75-g oral glucose tolerance test (OGTT) in a double-blind and cross-over design. Nineteen subjects had diabetes, seven had impaired glucose tolerance, one had impaired fasting glucose, and four had normal glucose tolerance according to the 1998 WHO criteria. There were no significant differences in plasma glucose levels before and 30min after the administration. Corosolic acid treatment subjects showed lower glucose levels from 60min until 120min and reached statistical significance at 90min. In this study, we have shown for the first time that corosolic acid has a lowering effect on postchallenge plasma glucose levels in vivo in humans.
 
babywifey said:
Shred Matrix: Day 3

I took my first dose of SM at 8:30am with breakfast. I noticed that throughout the morning I was more energetic than normal, particularly aware of my surroundings and a bit more focused as well. It was very nice. I had no nausea, and I have had an appetite. :thumbsup: at about 2 pm I started feeling a bit run down and I took a second pack at around 4pm. I haven't had a nap today, and I had a difficult time sleeping last night (perhaps due to my late afternoon dose of SM yesterday) so I am particularly tired.

Workout:

Today was an off day, so I didn't lift weights, but I did go to the gym with a friend this morning to show her some basics. I also got some sprints in while I was there. Will be back lifting tomorrow morning. :)
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GO HARD GIRL ! :clean:
:)
 
Shred Matrix: Day 4

I woke up this morning kinda' tired, but after taking Shred and getting psyched for the gym, I woke up a little. Mostly my muscles have just been tired today... they were feeling very worked out when I woke up (from BW pull ups on tuesday), and I had a rough time in the gym because of that. Probably my calorie deficit, and lower carb intake has much to do with this drained feeling.

Still, mentally I was feeling pretty good- I give credit to Shred Matrix. It's helping me out a lot in this area- especially when I am working out in the gym. This is what I love about stims- they make me more focused and therefore help me out with my determination and strength when lifting. Much of it is psychological, but I still think it is great! :D

Workout:

4x6

Incline BB Bench (95 lb)
supersetted w/ Supinated BB Bent Rows (80 lb)

Reverse Curls (30lb)
Dips (Body Weight)

I am happy with how much weight I used- even though it was hard I still think I did well.

I set a PR for my Incline Bench. I had a tough time with this movement- and it really shot my for the last superset- but hey, I went up in weight so it's no wonder that it was so hard. That's how a workout is supposed to be, anyway. :)

Once again the weak numbers for my curls show up. :( I find it funny that with compound movements I can really lift heavy, but when it comes to just focusing on individual muscles, I am pretty weak. My muscles like to work as a team much better! :D

BW dips are nothing new. I'm actually hoping that soon I'll be able to add weight to my 4x6 dips. :thumbsup:

I'll be working out lower body tonight. I'm unsure as to whether I will be able to post tonights workout right after I'm done. It may have to wait till tomorrow.
 
subbed. Just catching up! looking great so far. Keep it up!:good:
 
Shred Matrix: Day 4

Evening Workout:

3x12

Leg Press (230lb)
supersetted w/ Leg Press Calves (280lb)

Reverse DB Lunges (27.5 lb)
supersetted w/ Mule Kicks (55lb)

This workout was hard. I had taken Shred Matrix about an hour before I started it, and so I was sweating a lot, and my heart rate was through the roof. I had a lot of energy to complete it well though. :thumbsup:

I honestly don't like Leg Pressing. The motion is too unnatural, and it tends to hurt my lower back. I am hoping to replace it with another type of squat. I would much rather use free weights than machines- they are smoother on my joints, and better all the way around.

It was my first time doing Mule kicks. They were ok- my quads are shot from the combination of kicks, presses and lunges. :/
 
Shred Matrix: Day 5

I woke up this morning very tired, but taking Shred Matrix with a cup of coffee woke me up fairly quick.

I don't really have any new SM affects to note. Nearly every time I take it my temperature seems to rise, I sweat a lot, feel a bit more energetic than usual. I haven't had nausea since the first time and I my appetite is still up, most likely due to the rigorous workout routine I am on. This is all good. :D

Workout:

5x3

BB Romanian Deadlifts (155, 165, 175, 185, 185 lbs)
DB Step-ups (40 lb DBs)
Seated Calves (115 lb)

I was surprised by how much I could lift on my Deads! Considering that I was more tired than usual, and it is the end of the week, I think I did well. The last time I Romanian Deadlifted for this many sets (and not trying to set a PR) I lifted no more than 170 lb. I just kept racking the plates on this morning, and seemed to get the bar up pretty easily. :D This is a good indicator that I still am gaining strength. :thumbsup:
 
Subbed... late like usual. lol. I know you have been around here for a while now, but it's nice to see more and more ladies logs springing up.

Ah cutting down in winter... you are a braver soul than I. Then again, I guess girls don't really get away with "It's not fat, I'm bulking" like guys do. :lol:
 
babywifey said:
Shred Matrix: Day 4

I woke up this morning kinda' tired, but after taking Shred and getting psyched for the gym, I woke up a little. Mostly my muscles have just been tired today... they were feeling very worked out when I woke up (from BW pull ups on tuesday), and I had a rough time in the gym because of that. Probably my calorie deficit, and lower carb intake has much to do with this drained feeling.

Still, mentally I was feeling pretty good- I give credit to Shred Matrix. It's helping me out a lot in this area- especially when I am working out in the gym. This is what I love about stims- they make me more focused and therefore help me out with my determination and strength when lifting. Much of it is psychological, but I still think it is great! :D

Workout:

4x6

Incline BB Bench (95 lb)
supersetted w/ Supinated BB Bent Rows (80 lb)

Reverse Curls (30lb)
Dips (Body Weight)

I am happy with how much weight I used- even though it was hard I still think I did well.

I set a PR for my Incline Bench. I had a tough time with this movement- and it really shot my for the last superset- but hey, I went up in weight so it's no wonder that it was so hard. That's how a workout is supposed to be, anyway. :)

Once again the weak numbers for my curls show up. :( I find it funny that with compound movements I can really lift heavy, but when it comes to just focusing on individual muscles, I am pretty weak. My muscles like to work as a team much better! :D

BW dips are nothing new. I'm actually hoping that soon I'll be able to add weight to my 4x6 dips. :thumbsup:

I'll be working out lower body tonight. I'm unsure as to whether I will be able to post tonights workout right after I'm done. It may have to wait till tomorrow.
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Congrats on the PR!!!:djparty:
 
Today and tomorrow I will be taking a break from Shred Matrix to keep my stim sensitivity up. I'll let you guys know how I am doing without my SM. :(
 
Resolve said:
:Flashbacks to the X-force Log!: :D
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Haha! Ya, I almost made a comment.

But BW, if you have changed your mind, I found that Reset-A.D. works VERY quickly, and running it at 3caps/day for a week will do the trick. So, you could essentially cycle off of stims for say every fourth week, use Reset-AD, and then hop back on the stims. A bottle will last you for 3 stim cycles doing it that way. :cheers:

But if you'd rather just cycle off of stims for a couple days at a time, and that works, then more power to you. I need a little extra help, though. Just staying off for two days doesn't seem to do it for me.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Haha! Ya, I almost made a comment.

But BW, if you have changed your mind, I found that Reset-A.D. works VERY quickly, and running it at 3caps/day for a week will do the trick. So, you could essentially cycle off of stims for say every fourth week, use Reset-AD, and then hop back on the stims. A bottle will last you for 3 stim cycles doing it that way. :cheers:

But if you'd rather just cycle off of stims for a couple days at a time, and that works, then more power to you. I need a little extra help, though. Just staying off for two days doesn't seem to do it for me.
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Thanks, IC. Reset AD seems to be a very quality product, I would like to give it a try sometime.
 
Notes:

So, Today and yesterday I have been taking a break from SM. I've been feeling a little more tired in the mornings, and a bit less tired in the afternoons. Probably because I notice the energy boost of Shred Matrix after my first dose, but by the time the day has rolled around I've crashed from it wearing off.

Anyway, tomorrow I will be back in the gym with my Shred. I think I am going to do a "max-out" workout this week. Pretty much I'll go into the gym 4 times this week and do a few specific exercises, focusing on using as much weight as I can, and doing as many sets as I need to to reach my maximum. This will give my body a bit of a break from the 2-a-day routine I've been on, and I'll hopefully see an increase in strength. I'll be lowering my carbs and calories a bit as well , since it won't be as rigorous a routine as this past week. I'll try to incorporate some Cardio.
 
babywifey said:
Notes:

So, Today and yesterday I have been taking a break from SM. I've been feeling a little more tired in the mornings, and a bit less tired in the afternoons. Probably because I notice the energy boost of Shred Matrix after my first dose, but by the time the day has rolled around I've crashed from it wearing off.

Anyway, tomorrow I will be back in the gym with my Shred. I think I am going to do a "max-out" workout this week. Pretty much I'll go into the gym 4 times this week and do a few specific exercises, focusing on using as much weight as I can, and doing as many sets as I need to to reach my maximum. This will give my body a bit of a break from the 2-a-day routine I've been on, and I'll hopefully see an increase in strength. I'll be lowering my carbs and calories a bit as well , since it won't be as rigorous a routine as this past week.
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Kill it!

I love Max-OT!
 
babywifey said:
Notes:

So, Today and yesterday I have been taking a break from SM. I've been feeling a little more tired in the mornings, and a bit less tired in the afternoons. Probably because I notice the energy boost of Shred Matrix after my first dose, but by the time the day has rolled around I've crashed from it wearing off.

Anyway, tomorrow I will be back in the gym with my Shred. I think I am going to do a "max-out" workout this week. Pretty much I'll go into the gym 4 times this week and do a few specific exercises, focusing on using as much weight as I can, and doing as many sets as I need to to reach my maximum. This will give my body a bit of a break from the 2-a-day routine I've been on, and I'll hopefully see an increase in strength. I'll be lowering my carbs and calories a bit as well , since it won't be as rigorous a routine as this past week. I'll try to incorporate some Cardio.
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Good luck.....!:thumbsup:
 
Irish Cannon said:
Kill it!

I love Max-OT!
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I totally agree!- Maxing out is amazing! :D

I was feeling a bit overworked on friday night- I felt as if my body hadn't had enough time to recover over the week. Maybe it was even my calorie deficit. I think this workout week will be good for me. :)
 
Ya, Max-OT is a very different level of difficult. It's hard, but doesn't wear you out to the degree that hypertrophy training does. It sounds like you picked a good time to do it.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Ya, Max-OT is a very different level of difficult. It's hard, but doesn't wear you out to the degree that hypertrophy training does. It sounds like you picked a good time to do it.
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I think in one sense this week is a good time to Max, but on the other hand, Christmas day I am not going to worry at all about what I eat. :D ha, so while my body seems to need the break, this week is also gonna' have a big cheat.

Suppose I could call this a "recharge" week. And like I said earlier, I'm going to try to incorporate some cardio like sprints into this week. :thumbsup:
 
babywifey said:
I think in one sense this week is a good time to Max, but on the other hand, Christmas day I am not going to worry at all about what I eat. :D ha, so while my body seems to need the break, this week is also gonna' have a big cheat.

Suppose I could call this a "recharge" week. And like I said earlier, I'm going to try to incorporate some cardio like sprints into this week. :thumbsup:
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That's pretty freakin' sweet to hear a girl go for a "max-out" week. I couldn't convince my girlfriend to work out like that if I paid her to.

Just be smart about the max effort sets... nobody likes injuries.

:thumbsup:
 
GMG760 said:
That's pretty freakin' sweet to hear a girl go for a "max-out" week. I couldn't convince my girlfriend to work out like that if I paid her to.

Just be smart about the max effort sets... nobody likes injuries.

:thumbsup:
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I saw a chick working out at the gym this morning lifting real light weight, just doing a movement rather than working the muscle. I remembered BW was doing Max-OT and I immediately though, "Dude, Babywifey would crush this chick." It's a shame some women just don't understand. And the girl is a group fitness instructor at the gym, too. She should know better. One day while I was doing HIIT on the bike, completely drenched in my sweat, she came up to me and said, "Hey, Irish (but with my real name)! Why don't you ever take my biking class?!"

Pshh....Like I'd take her class...:rolleyes:
 
Irish Cannon said:
I saw a chick working out at the gym this morning lifting real light weight, just doing a movement rather than working the muscle. I remembered BW was doing Max-OT and I immediately though, "Dude, Babywifey would crush this chick." It's a shame some women just don't understand. And the girl is a group fitness instructor at the gym, too. She should know better. One day while I was doing HIIT on the bike, completely drenched in my sweat, she came up to me and said, "Hey, Irish (but with my real name)! Why don't you ever take my biking class?!"

Pshh....Like I'd take her class...:rolleyes:
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Different people have different goals my friend. Not everyone is trying to get jacked like we are. It used to piss me off when people weren't giving it their all, but in reality, at least they are at the gym trying. They could be eating ben n' jerrys on the couch watching a soap opera...

And I dunno dude, I have taken a spin class led by a random chick trainer at my gym that's made me puke afterward it was so intense.
 
So explain to me the goal accomplished by lifting weight so light that it does absolutely nothing for your muscle or your endurance.

I'm stating the fact that it bothers me that this chick is in a place of seniority at the gym. She obviously doesn't quite know what she's doing (I've seen her train other women), so she has no business helping other people.

A spin class is only what you make it. The instructor doesn't do too much other then tell you when to crank up the intensity. I'm better off doing interval training on my own.
 
Irish Cannon said:
So explain to me the goal accomplished by lifting weight so light that it does absolutely nothing for your muscle or your endurance.

I'm stating the fact that it bothers me that this chick is in a place of seniority at the gym. She obviously doesn't quite know what she's doing (I've seen her train other women), so she has no business helping other people.

A spin class is only what you make it. The instructor doesn't do too much other then tell you when to crank up the intensity. I'm better off doing interval training on my own.
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*sigh* I'm sorry BabyWifey, I'm not trying to hijack your thread. This will be my last post on the subject.

I was just stating that not everyone has the same goals we do. I have no frame of reference for your example, so whatever argument I have is pointless. But, the fact that someone is trying at all is a lot more than most people give.

The few spin classes I have attended have been around 45 minutes of nearly all HIIT with a trainer that was yelling at us the entire time. I don't know about you, but it worked to motivate me and it kicked my ass pretty bad.

If you have your workout and motivation dialed in 110%, all the time, and consistently workout until you vomit or bleed, then good for you. I can honestly say that there are days where someone yelling at me to work harder helps a lot, both with cardio and weight training. In my opinion, you use a class like a spin class to motivate you the way you use a training partner to spot/motivate you to lift heavy. Not necessary, but when it's free with your gym membership, why not?
 
I don't have a problem at all with you guys conversing in my thread- I think it is awesome! Totally keep it up! :thumbsup:

It is true that people have different goals when it comes to fitness, but I believe that when it comes to weight lifting, 85% of the people in the gym don't know what they are doing and they don't lift heavy enough to make that much of a difference (whether they want to lose fat, gain muscle, or gain strength). Sure, they may gain a bit of muscle, or lose a couple of pounds, but it'll be impossible to do much more than that with how they lift. I have seen personal trainers just like the lady you described, Irish, who lift way to light to do much of anything- and show their clients the same.

If you are just starting off, it is understandable that you are lifting light, learning the form and such, but if you're not making progress in your form, weight, intensity or something other, you aren't doing something right. A trainer should know how to lift correctly, and if he or she isn't demonstrating that in their own routine, I agree with Irish: Their is no way they should be teaching.
 
Shred Matrix: Day 6

Shred Matrix has been great today! I've felt a nice flow of energy all this morning, and so far I haven't crashed. My workout wasn't as intense either, so that could have something to do with my extended amount of energy.

Still, I haven't felt the appetite suppressant. Let me say once again, for me this is a good thing. I like to be hungry so that I get all of my calories in. :thumbsup:

Workout:

I'm maxing this week. Here are today's numbers:

Squats:
Warmup: 115
1st set: 135
2nd set: 155
3rd set: 165
Final Set (Max): 170

BB Bench Press:
Warmup: 75 lb
1st Set: 95 lb
2nd Set: 105
Final Set (Max): 115 lb

DB Tricep Extensions:
Warmup: 17.5 lb
1st set: 25 lb
2nd set: 27.5 lb
3rd Set: 30 lb
Final Set (Max): 32.5 lb

I had a 5 lb increase in my Squats since my last max, about a 10 lb increase in my Bench, and about a 5 lb increase in my Triceps. :) Not the biggest jumps that I've ever had, but it still shows that I am getting stronger, which is good. :D

I finished off the weight lifting with sprinting, and an extra 10 minutes of intense steady state cardio on the Eliptical machine. I'm feeling great! For sure I can tell that SM has given me more energy than usual! :woohoo:
 
Ok then...

How many of us here have personal trainers that are on AM? I can think of ONE. Crader. That's all that I personally know of. Should a trainer have to be a bodybuilder or powerlifter? Of course not. Should they have proper knowledge about weight lifting? Of course. You guys make it sound like every trainer has to be Charles Glass or something.

Now the question becomes, who typically uses a trainer, and why do they use them?

The answer is (for a majority): Non-self-motivated fat people who want to lose weight. These people don't need guys and girls like us telling them to do situps and windsprints until they puke. They'd quit after a few days, if not the first. It takes dedication/motivation/ and a whole lot of time invested to be able to train the way we do. I wouldn't call any of us on here the "average gym-goer". So, what these people need is someone to go ahead and get them motivated and to teach them the basics. That's all most trainers are, and most people stop using a trainer once they are ready to add some weight on the barbell and have gained some confidence in themselves. Unless you guys go to a "hardcore" gym (and if you do I am truly envious), most of the trainers don't need the kind of routines and knowledge we do. These people they are training aren't trying to get into contest shape, they are trying to live past 55. Who really give's a sh*t if someone other than yourself lifts light or heavy, that shouldn't be the determining factor in your opinion of their abilities. Maybe it isn't light to them. I mean, if this trainer is walking around spewing BS all day then, fine, she shouldn't train people. But if she simply has different methods than you, give her a break, her clients probably don't have your goals, and probably aren't ready to be at your level of working out.

Lastly, it comes down to liability. If you are training someone and they get hurt while you are training them, well, that is probably gonna be your ass on the chopping block.

If 85% of the people at my gym were working out "too-light" for results, as you described it, then I would change gyms.
 
babywifey said:
Shred Matrix: Day 6

Shred Matrix has been great today! I've felt a nice flow of energy all this morning, and so far I haven't crashed. My workout wasn't as intense either, so that could have something to do with my extended amount of energy.

Still, I haven't felt the appetite suppressant. Let me say once again, for me this is a good thing. I like to be hungry so that I get all of my calories in. :thumbsup:

Workout:

I'm maxing this week. Here are today's numbers:

Squats:
Warmup: 115
1st set: 135
2nd set: 155
3rd set: 165
Final Set (Max): 170

BB Bench Press:
Warmup: 75 lb
1st Set: 95 lb
2nd Set: 105
Final Set (Max): 115 lb

DB Tricep Extensions:
Warmup: 17.5 lb
1st set: 25 lb
2nd set: 27.5 lb
3rd Set: 30 lb
Final Set (Max): 32.5 lb

I had a 5 lb increase in my Squats since my last max, about a 10 lb increase in my Bench, and about a 5 lb increase in my Triceps. :) Not the biggest jumps that I've ever had, but it still shows that I am getting stronger, which is good. :D

I finished off the weight lifting with sprinting, and an extra 10 minutes of intense steady state cardio on the Eliptical machine. I'm feeling great! For sure I can tell that SM has given me more energy than usual! :woohoo:
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Damn, nice squats and bench press!!! Squatting more than you weigh isn't easy by any means of the term.

Ever try cg bench or skull crushers? I find them much more effective than tricep extentions.

What is the rep range you are using?
 
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