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Now Sustain Alpha more effective and affordable than ever!

Eric Potratz

Eric Potratz

Board Sponsor
Fellow AM Members,

I’d like to announce the latest improvements to our topical products Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed, and Invalid Link Removed.

The highly effective Testosterone booster Sustain Alpha has been enhanced with 15% more 7,8-Benzoflavone.

Now, each 6 pump application of Sustain Alpha includes -
Resveratrol (99%) – 162 mg
7,8-Benzoflavone (99%) – 108 mg
Aromatic oil blend - 21 mg​
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Since production has been scaled up we have been able to reduce our prices!

Now, Sustain Alpha, Dermacrine, and DermaTherm have been reduced to only $49.95! [from a previous $59.95]

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Plus, all topicals are now included with our new travel friendly and leak proof piston pump bottles. No more extra pumps! [These bottles will also allow for more accurate dosing.]

Additionally, our topical products are now more effective and better absorbed than ever with our new 5.0 formula.

5.0 Benefits – (In addition to the Invalid Link Removed benefits)

New high purity solvents [ethoxy diglycol, dimethyl isosorbide] improve freeze/thaw stability, so now the active ingredients can stay dissolved without “crashing” and becoming “gritty and sandy” after shipping in cold temperatures. In addition to improving stability, these new solvents also enhance delivery across the skin, making the 5.0 formula the most effective formula yet.​
Please feel free to post any questions or concerns you may have.

Thank you.

Eric Potratz
President & Founder

Questions?

Phone – 1-800-568-2924
Email - [email protected]
Visit - Primordial Performance
 
Sustain Alpha is awesome stuff. I'm not sure I've ever felt as good as when I was on it.
 
ooooh, that bottle looks more convenient.

I like the aluminium bottles, but the pump is such a pain in the arse when you have to chuck it in your bag. The spray top is fine for travelling mind but i hate using it for application..... so either way i lose lol.

Will look forward to trying the new formula once my current stash runs out.
 
haiz69 said:
Sustain Alpha is awesome stuff....
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Absolutely. All Primordial Performance products I used were great. My favourite PP stack is Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed, and Invalid Link Removed. :food:
 
strategicmove said:
Absolutely. All Primordial Performance products I used were great. My favourite PP stack is Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed, and Invalid Link Removed. :food:
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Damn...I'd love to run that, but don't think I could afford it at the moment.

50 days of sustain alpha should be fun though.
 
How long does a single bottle of sustain alpha last and how does it compare to say mass FX? Ive never tryed anything like it before and was wondering about possible sides and how exactly it is applied and used...Thanks guys
 
pavb10 said:
How long does a single bottle of sustain alpha last and how does it compare to say mass FX? Ive never tryed anything like it before and was wondering about possible sides and how exactly it is applied and used...Thanks guys
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It would last about a month at the 5 on, 2 day off protocol. (6 pumps per day)

One side-effect from Sustain Alpha is annoying erections that may wake you up in the middle if the night.

Seriously though, the only side-effect weve ever had reported is about 1-2% of our customers who say the Sustain makes their skin itchy [light rash]. However this only seems to happen in very dry or humid climates.

-Eric
 
One side-effect from Sustain Alpha is annoying erections that may wake you up in the middle if the night.

-Eric[/QUOTE]

He's right about that! And they're not just at night. Strong Morning Wood ( as in "Geez, is thing ever gonna go down? I gotta pee." ). Also, random, persistent wood throught the day.

My recommendation: be sure to wear shirts which do not need to be tucked in.

srczm
 
sarcazmo said:
He's right about that! And they're not just at night. Strong Morning Wood ( as in "Geez, is thing ever gonna go down? I gotta pee." ). Also, random, persistent wood throught the day.

My recommendation: be sure to wear shirts which do not need to be tucked in.

srczm
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lol...


-Eric
 
Plus the new bottle can easily be passed off as shaving cream vs the old one which would provoke questioning from others -.-
 
Primordial Perf said:
It would last about a month at the 5 on, 2 day off protocol. (6 pumps per day)

One side-effect from Sustain Alpha is annoying erections that may wake you up in the middle if the night.

Seriously though, the only side-effect weve ever had reported is about 1-2% of our customers who say the Sustain makes their skin itchy [light rash]. However this only seems to happen in very dry or humid climates.

-Eric
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So it is better to dose 5 on, 2 off or ed?
 
small_guy said:
So it is better to dose 5 on, 2 off or ed?
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Yes, this is the new dosing protocol for maximum effectiveness long-term.

The phase shift allows the GnRH receptors and leydig cells to re-sensitize during the “off” period, so they can produce a stronger surge during the “on” period.

-Eric
 
You can also get this great Pp stack for a reasonable price:



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pavb10 said:
could this be used on my off days on an epi pulse instead of mass fx?
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Yes.

Sustain Alpha is being used during cycles to help avoid total suppression. For the on-cycle protocol you would use it 3 days on, 3 days off... At the minimum we recommend 2 days on, 5 days off.

Then for PCT you switch to 5 days on, 2 days off.

I'll be posting a new Sustain FAQ soon.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
Yes.

Sustain Alpha is being used during cycles to help avoid total suppression. For the on-cycle protocol you would use it 3 days on, 3 days off... At the minimum we recommend 2 days on, 5 days off.

Then for PCT you switch to 5 days on, 2 days off.

I'll be posting a new Sustain FAQ soon.

-Eric
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Without a doubt that will be part of my next cycle's protocol.
 
i was planning on doing a low dose EOD pulse of epistane for four weeks for my first time. I had originally planned on taking mass fx on my off days and then two weeks of it into PCT. Your product looks real good though and i guess its a better test booster than mass FX.

If i try sustain alpha could i do it on my off days only or do i have to do it 3 on, 3 off or 5 on and 2 off? I was planning on running restore for my entire cycle and then doing PCS for four weeks and using the remaining sustain alpha (2 weeks- 5 on 2 off). How does that all sound? I dont really plan on going over 30mg or taking a ton of support supps...
 
just got my dermacrine yesterday....new pump seems much better!
 
As I've posted the 4.0 sample I tried made me break out in severe welts all over my legs (scratched 'til I drew blood during my sleep). Would anything in the new formula help prevent this?

I know I seemed to be the only one this happened to and you suggeted that it was my dry climate (Denver) or some other external factor. I hadn't made any external changes (soaps or other supps etc.) so I believe it was someting in the product. It was a sample so no big loss and it did seem to help with libido and fullness in the testicle sack etc (was/am coming off a prolonged TRT (no choice the DR won't let me get into the upper ranges, insists on middle of the road values).

So I liked alpha but it didn't like me.
 
I've heard Eric mention applying a moisturizer after the topical a bit later on to prevent drying out; but that might be more for 1T/Dermacrine. You can give that a try though, moisturizing is always a good call!

There is a very small %age of people that are actually allergic to the ingredients themselves, although very small.
 
yeah he mentioned trying a moisturizing agent but it really is more like an allergic reaction vs dry slin (Really major welts, red rash, extreme itching etc) so I haven't tried to apply then do skin cream after. I'll probably do it in a week or so but needed to let all the welts and scars from scratching heal first them try it on a day I don't have to go to work. It's a realb!@#$ to work on the phones/computer when your whacked out on Benadryl to contol the rash but still trying to use both hands scratching your legs and scrotum (not to mention the looks I got...LOL)
 
pavb10 said:
i was planning on doing a low dose EOD pulse of epistane for four weeks for my first time. I had originally planned on taking mass fx on my off days and then two weeks of it into PCT. Your product looks real good though and i guess its a better test booster than mass FX.

If i try sustain alpha could i do it on my off days only or do i have to do it 3 on, 3 off or 5 on and 2 off? I was planning on running restore for my entire cycle and then doing PCS for four weeks and using the remaining sustain alpha (2 weeks- 5 on 2 off). How does that all sound? I dont really plan on going over 30mg or taking a ton of support supps...
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It sounds like you should just save the Sustain for after the epi pulse. It shouldn’t be very suppressive anyway, especially if you are only pulsing for 4 weeks.

-Eric
 
rabican said:
has the dosing changed for pct? it used to be ~5 pumps daily...?

at this protocol it would last ~4 weeks.
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Its 6 pumps for 5 days on, 2 days off for regular use. [Most guys are doing 3 days on, 3 days off for the on-cycle protocol]

Ill be posting a Sustain FAQ soon...

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
Its 6 pumps for 5 days on, 2 days off for regular use. [Most guys are doing 3 days on, 3 days off for the on-cycle protocol]

Ill be posting a Sustain FAQ soon...

-Eric
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at this protocol will a bottle last 4 weeks?
should the "2 days off" be lift days or rest days or does it not matter...the weekend comes to mind.
 
glg said:
As I've posted the 4.0 sample I tried made me break out in severe welts all over my legs (scratched 'til I drew blood during my sleep). Would anything in the new formula help prevent this?

I know I seemed to be the only one this happened to and you suggeted that it was my dry climate (Denver) or some other external factor. I hadn't made any external changes (soaps or other supps etc.) so I believe it was someting in the product. It was a sample so no big loss and it did seem to help with libido and fullness in the testicle sack etc (was/am coming off a prolonged TRT (no choice the DR won't let me get into the upper ranges, insists on middle of the road values).

So I liked alpha but it didn't like me.
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Some of the active ingredients [resveratrol and benzoflavone] can reside on the skin and cause a bit of dryness, especially if your climate is dry. If you can keep the skin moisturized with a non-fragrant lotion [or skin oil] this should prevent the “itchy dryness” and solve the problem. [obviously itching is only going to worsen the problem]

We’ve been considering the releasing our own lotion for guys to use for this purpose… but its only about 1-2 people out of every 100 that have this problem.

-Eric
 
rabican said:
at this protocol will a bottle last 4 weeks?
should the "2 days off" be lift days or rest days or does it not matter...the weekend comes to mind.
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It wouldnt matter if you are lifting on those days or not.

Yes, the bottle would last about a month with this protocol.

-Eric
 
glg said:
yeah he mentioned trying a moisturizing agent but it really is more like an allergic reaction vs dry slin (Really major welts, red rash, extreme itching etc) so I haven't tried to apply then do skin cream after. I'll probably do it in a week or so but needed to let all the welts and scars from scratching heal first them try it on a day I don't have to go to work. It's a realb!@#$ to work on the phones/computer when your whacked out on Benadryl to contol the rash but still trying to use both hands scratching your legs and scrotum (not to mention the looks I got...LOL)
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Would you say the majority of the redness and welts came from the itching?

As in, if there was no itching you wouldn’t have such an issue?

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
Would you say the majority of the redness and welts came from the itching?

As in, if there was no itching you wouldn’t have such an issue?

-Eric
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No the welts and rash are very extreme and the itching comes as a result not the other way around. I'll start to feel the itching and when I check I have the rash & welts.

That's why I think it might be an allergic reaction vs. a dry skin issue but I'm going to spend a couple of days putting some lotion on my legs and the try the Alpha followed by lotion to see if that changes things. just need to wait 'til I have a couple of days off so I don't scratch so much at work.

Like I said I did notice positive results before this started and it wasn't from day 1 of trying it started a week or so into the usage. I was only doing 3 pumps every other day or so in order to try it and make it last a little longer before I actually purchased a full bottle.
 
I'm thinking about ordering up the stack with dermacrine, sustain-alpha, and 2 PT.

Anyone run this before?
 
Primordial Perf said:
Yes.

Sustain Alpha is being used during cycles to help avoid total suppression. For the on-cycle protocol you would use it 3 days on, 3 days off... At the minimum we recommend 2 days on, 5 days off.

Then for PCT you switch to 5 days on, 2 days off.

I'll be posting a new Sustain FAQ soon.

-Eric
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how effective is this in increasing testicular size?

also can it be dosed during the washout period following a test injection? (instead of hCG) in an 2on 1 off 2 on 2 off manner? up until the SERM starts?

how does it compare to hCG interms of recovery and testicular size and ITT?
 
crazyfool405 said:
how effective is this in increasing testicular size?

also can it be dosed during the washout period following a test injection? (instead of hCG) in an 2on 1 off 2 on 2 off manner? up until the SERM starts?

how does it compare to hCG interms of recovery and testicular size and ITT?
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Of course YMMV, but I've used low-dose HCG ( 250mg 2x/wk ) during TRT ( pellets ) and the HCG never did much as far as increasing ball size. However, in the past three months, I've done a cycle of Sustain Alpha ( last month or so before latest pellet implant ) and Dermacrine ( in use since pellet implant ) and BOTH seem to increase the size of the ol' nut sack. I'm currently doing the 3-on/3-off protocol, applying 1 pump to each arm and one pump to the scrotum in the AM, one pump to the scrotum in the afternoon and again just before bed. In addition to really strong morning wood ( as in, get up walk around, make coffee, brush my teeth, etc. before I'm finally able to piss ), I consistently get what I call "Dr Pepper Wood" ( i.e, 10, 2 & 4 ). Yeah, this stuff is THE BOMB!

srczm
 
thanks for the responce,

now if i apply the sustain to my ballsack (as you said)

and my girlfriend likes to yanno........ would it get into her blood stream from gedtting in her mouth? and how would it effect her.
 
crazyfool405 said:
thanks for the responce,

now if i apply the sustain to my ballsack (as you said)

and my girlfriend likes to yanno........ would it get into her blood stream from gedtting in her mouth? and how would it effect her.
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Can't say as I'm lucky enough to be in that situation, but it does take awhile to dry thoroughly. Even once it's dry though, I doubt all of the topical will have been absorbed; just a guess on my part. I mean, it smells ok when it's applied, but I doubt that it tastes very good and it might contain some inerts that you don't want to ingest. Hopefully Eric has more info on this. To be on the safe side, I'd recommend washing your junk pretty thoroughly before having "tea time" with the young lady.

srczm
 
haha yeah good question, i was thinking the same thing but afraid to ask. How would u dose sustain alpha on an EOD pulse of epi? I wanna take it as a test booster on my off days along with taking an AI everyday
 
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