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lennoxchi

lennoxchi

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there's a serious question I've been going back and forth with lately. to move to juice from methyl orals? first let me say, i take both very seriously and am aware of the risks involved, physically, legally, and mentally. let me now say, i will never enter a BB contest, i have no aspiration to be a pro at this. the reason i even question it is, it's "cleaner" in the respect on the liver, there are other issues associated with the real juice VS. oral, but i have liver issues from the past. the other things are, if orals are made to mimic injectables, why not just go to the real thing and skip the gray market stuff. i can run test-e for 10 weeks at a low dose, like 500mgs. a week and throw in some Winny in the last 5 weeks at 50mgs.ED and be done for an entire year. it just seems easier and a bit safer. people have been using deca, d-bol, test, eqi and the like for how many years now? the only reason that i know of for the existence of methyl orals SD,PP, EPI, are that the chemist can alter the makeup to fit through a legal loop hole in the law. please only respond if you are serious....none of this "yea just move to injecting" please tell me why you feel that way if you feel that way or the other
 
if you already have liver problems then its a no brainer move to injectables.

have you ever used injectables?

they are alot more better on you body wit the exception of tren. You will have to be sterile and learn good injection procedures to keep safe but really injectables are the way to go if you plan on using long term or have health issues.

hope that helped.
 
It is a lifestyle choice. Can your life accommodate injections (ie: will your SO care, do you have time, etc)?

If you're wanting to do steroids long-term as in, continuously go back to them over the years, then I think injections are the safest route so long as you are vigilant in your sterility procedures.

Good luck.
 
Move to injectables, i am.
 
pistonpump said:
if you already have liver problems then its a no brainer move to injectables.

have you ever used injectables?

they are alot more better on you body wit the exception of tren. You will have to be sterile and learn good injection procedures to keep safe but really injectables are the way to go if you plan on using long term or have health issues.

hope that helped.
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yes it did help, thx. I'd rep again but cannot. but to answer your question, no have never injected. have a legit source for it, have the procedure instructions for injecting, gonna go with Test-e, 500mgs a week, i can find out the pin size, and have a source for that too, more than likely going to need more help with all this later on before i do anything, like, is nolva necessary to run with the est at a low dose or is an AI like arim.exemastane better, stuff like that.
 
Injecting for you will pretty much become a way of life. It will be alot safer on your body/liver if you have the proper procedures down like everybody else said. You will have the desired results, maybe not as much side effects as the orals (friend's got more doing orals than with injects) and a sense of well being all the time.

I agree with Nos too, just waaaaaaaaait!
 
lennoxchi said:
yes it did help, thx. I'd rep again but cannot. but to answer your question, no have never injected. have a legit source for it, have the procedure instructions for injecting, gonna go with Test-e, 500mgs a week, i can find out the pin size, and have a source for that too, more than likely going to need more help with all this later on before i do anything, like, is nolva necessary to run with the est at a low dose or is an AI like arim.exemastane better, stuff like that.
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yeah do the research man those are the guys that should pin, guys that are serious enough to do their research and learn as much as possible. Not these guys that have no clue or want answers fed to them. id rep you for that.

dont expect alot imo, if you get alot from the inj then all the better but guys get disappointed, i kinda did. Its slow gains not like most orals that come quick.

legal risks and monetary are the only things keeping me away from using otc over inj. id be going the short ester way and i cant wait for the day i go and play with some tren a!!! :twisted:
 
pistonpump said:
i cant wait for the day i go and play with some tren a!!! :twisted:
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I'm not an inject. AAS guy...so what's the deal w/Tren a? People seem to imply that it's....evil....or......as if it's gonna really jack them up something. I'm just now sure how it compares to test. Mind briefing me PP?

Sorry for HJ!
 
papapumpsd said:
I'm not an inject. AAS guy...so what's the deal w/Tren a? People seem to imply that it's....evil....or......as if it's gonna really jack them up something. I'm just now sure how it compares to test. Mind briefing me PP?

Sorry for HJ!
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500/500 anabolic/androgenic ratio IIRC

many ppl experience lean gains, fatloss (not exactly what its for but definitely a great effect), and huge strength increase
 
Tren is probably the most powerful injectable steroid and has the harshest side effects. You can bulk with it, you can cut with it because it will help build muscle, but is one of the few steroids with significant fatloss properties, and is one of the best for strength increases. Tren can make you bigger and leaner simultaneously

sides are like this: suppression is high, risk of malfunctioning **** is there if you run without test, it's been known to cause intense sweating (night sweats) and causes aggression moreso than most steroids. There's also insomnia, tren cough, and i believe it can cause the "progestin gyno"
 
papapumpsd said:
I'm not an inject. AAS guy...so what's the deal w/Tren a? People seem to imply that it's....evil....or......as if it's gonna really jack them up something. I'm just now sure how it compares to test. Mind briefing me PP?

Sorry for HJ!
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tren is the shiz...50mgs ed = :lol: :thumbsup:

flu symptoms start for me after about four weeks...but it gives you the craziest dreams...i love this stuff
 
nosnmiveins said:
its kinda funny u said run 1 cycle and be done for the year



......juuuuuuuuust wait...
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i mean, run one cycle a year. not this year. running a 10-14 week cycle, would mean that i would run just 1 a year. not like orals where i run 2 or 3 depending on what and how long i run the orals. just clarifying.
 
The general rule of thumb is to take the same amount of time off between cycles, as you were on the cycle (including pct). So if you were on a 12 week cycle (including pct for sake of argument), then you would need to take off 3 months before starting again. Basically, you could run two a year.
 
...Another risk involved, I don't think it's been mentionned, is the fact that some inj. can be very impure, and full of heavy metals, wrong doses etc. I am talking about UGL products of course.

If you just have access to UGL you don't know, stay with light orals like 1-ad etc..

If you have choice, spend a little more and get a vet/human grade.
 
lennoxchi said:
i mean, run one cycle a year. not this year. running a 10-14 week cycle, would mean that i would run just 1 a year. not like orals where i run 2 or 3 depending on what and how long i run the orals. just clarifying.
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i was just trying to make the point that u'll love the results and want to stay on forever. but dont. take adequate time off and u'll be good
 
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