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BlackSheep's: NO BS M-Drol Quickie!!!!!

I run T Prop at 200 mg EOD min. no exceptions, however if you want the best possible scenario, I would say 100mgs ED. The ED will keep a higher elevated Test level in the blood than the EOD, but EOD works. I put on 20 lbs last cycle I went 247.5 to 267.5 and am walking right now at 259.5 so I netted 12 lbs. My favorite low sides stack is T prop min. 800mgs/wk with Equipoise in there for 600 mgs/wk, with D-bol pulsed on WOD. T prop is the best test in my opinion it works quicker and is leaner IMO.

I would suggest any noob to run T prop no lower than 100 mgs EOD. Depending on your BW I would also suggest someone bigger running the sh!t at a min. of 200 mg EOD or the ED scheme I spoke of b4. There is a reason why BBer's don't run designers......

FVCK ALL DA BULLSH!T, IF YOU DON"T LIKE PINS THEN YOU DON"T LIKE GETTING SWOLE.....................

I've been wantign to run some test for a while now. I did sust a few years back and I loved that. Some test cyp never hurt anyone, in my book.
 
I run T Prop at 200 mg EOD min. no exceptions, however if you want the best possible scenario, I would say 100mgs ED. The ED will keep a higher elevated Test level in the blood than the EOD, but EOD works. I put on 20 lbs last cycle I went 247.5 to 267.5 and am walking right now at 259.5 so I netted 12 lbs. My favorite low sides stack is T prop min. 800mgs/wk with Equipoise in there for 600 mgs/wk, with D-bol pulsed on WOD. T prop is the best test in my opinion it works quicker and is leaner IMO.

I would suggest any noob to run T prop no lower than 100 mgs EOD. Depending on your BW I would also suggest someone bigger running the sh!t at a min. of 200 mg EOD or the ED scheme I spoke of b4. There is a reason why BBer's don't run designers......



FVCK ALL DA BULLSH!T, IF YOU DON"T LIKE PINS THEN YOU DON"T LIKE GETTING SWOLE.....................

IMO newbies should start low.It just doesn't make sence to me to start high.What if you didn't need it?Now you'll never know cause you sure as hell won't decrease the dose next time.With a fast acting ester like prop you can just up the dose mid cycle if desired,and see the benifits shortly.

Anyways heavies,hows the pain from the injections for you with prop?Some say they can't work a muscle for like 3 days after injecting it.Others say it aint that bad.I guess it depends on the gear.Some are saying the injecter too,but what can one do to make an injection site sore or not sore?I have just heard guys say it's not my technique.........Are they saying they don't wiggle the needle around or what?
 
100mg ED is a lot of prop, but most of us aren't 6'6 lol


there's so many factors that affect the pain when pinning. There's the gear itself which can be diluted with more oil. There's the gauge needle you use. You should also try to warm up the gear a little if possible, inject slowly, massage the injection site.

Some people like to train whatever muscle group they injected into, they say it helps disperse the oil, maybe just mental tho.

I still like the idea of something like 75mg Test Prop and 50mg Tren Ace in the same barrel ED. Haven't run any of this **** tho, just research so far.
 
is it against board regs to throw out some avg prices for 10ml tprop? i'm NOT trying to solicit it from members or anyone else, just curious in case i run across some. i don't want to get ripped off.
i searched the "rules" and couldn't find anything about asking about avg prices. however, i haven't seen anyone else post about this either so this may be a grey area. I don't want any trouble and don't want to get banned. if it is against rules, let me know and i'll move on.

I would ask someone in an Email if I were you. I don't think you have broken the rules yet, but I doubt anyone is gonna stick their necks out on the boards. PM me for my email if you like.
 
Yeah, it's so gay... I can appreciate it when the fool is like 12 and types out a half a sentence demanding help... Who wants to help them. But then you have a dude that wants to lose 50 pounds, types out his life story, and fools spike him telling him to research crap...

First off, yea, most people on these boards are d*cks to people who arn't knowlegable... this forum doesn't have any excuse... it says right up top... LEARN TEACH LEAD. I see too many jerk off's treating people like they are morons for just asking questions. At least they are asking questions. Then again there are people like Gil-T who get good advice and tell everyone who gave them advice to F*ck off... so it's a double edged sword. I find this board to be a lot more patient than others... IE MD, BB, and IA <-- a bunch of c0ckknockers on that one.... I think we should all go on Iron Addicts and start posting about how volume is SOOOOO much better than DC... lol... watch the sh*t just hit the fan. lmao.

Anyway, I'd be interested in learning more about test... Sounds pretty gnarly.

and it begins... :head:
 
The real tren is supposed to be GNARLY.

I mean as in you best watch your @$$ serious sh!t!I have been researching the real thing at another site thats great for the real thing,and one thread is called "tren=oh god help!"I have noticed that people are kinda weary of recomending it to others.Kind of like SD I guess.I haven't read why cause I've been looking into other things,but I guess side affects are high or something?
 
I mean as in you best watch your @$$ serious sh!t!I have been researching the real thing at another site thats great for the real thing,and one thread is called "tren=oh god help!"I have noticed that people are kinda weary of recomending it to others.Kind of like SD I guess.I haven't read why cause I've been looking into other things,but I guess side affects are high or something?

yeah bro tren has side effects that are gnarly but everyone says its worth it. The strength gains from Tren are unmatched, and it has fat loss properties. Stack it with test of course and you've got a great lean bulker with hardening and strength gains like crazy.

I think the sides will be minimized by starting at a lose dose like 75mg EOD or a bit more with 50mg ed. Some people jump right into 100mg ed that'll be some sides.

sides... tren cough, tren ****, tren night sweats, OH and being able to curl what used to be your bench max :head:
 
yeah bro tren has side effects that are gnarly but everyone says its worth it. The strength gains from Tren are unmatched, and it has fat loss properties. Stack it with test of course and you've got a great lean bulker with hardening and strength gains like crazy.

I think the sides will be minimized by starting at a lose dose like 75mg EOD or a bit more with 50mg ed. Some people jump right into 100mg ed that'll be some sides.

sides... tren cough, tren ****, tren night sweats, OH and being able to curl what used to be your bench max :head:

Is tren ****,tren d!ck?You know thats how I feel SD is too.Evryone wants to jump into 20mgs when 10 will work.....
 
Is tren ****,tren d!ck?You know thats how I feel SD is too.Evryone wants to jump into 20mgs when 10 will work.....

yeah tren d1ck but stack with test and no problem. Its like Deca, being a nandrolone, it shuts down natural test hard so it needs to be run with test, not alone

I totally agree about starting low with all these compounds... you have to gauge how you will respond, and you are able to look forward to bumping up the dose. I am under the impression that starting out with very high doses will dull your response to the substances in the long run.

SD 10mg is working great, day 6 for me and up about 7 pounds BOOYA
and i'm not a light guy! SD is some legit sh1t.
 
Is tren ****,tren d!ck?You know thats how I feel SD is too.Evryone wants to jump into 20mgs when 10 will work.....

Yea... both tren and deca scare the bejesus out of me. I like my junk to work properly. It would be pretty bad ass to curl 275 though. Especially at 185lbs. LMAO! I already get those "I know you are taking juice" looks (from the trainers at my gym) that BS was talking about the other day... I can't imagine what would happen if I took something that strong. I would probably wind up in prison for destroying too much sh*t.
 
Yea... both tren and deca scare the bejesus out of me. I like my junk to work properly. It would be pretty bad ass to curl 275 though. Especially at 185lbs. LMAO! I already get those "I know you are taking juice" looks (from the trainers at my gym) that BS was talking about the other day... I can't imagine what would happen if I took something that strong. I would probably wind up in prison for destroying too much sh*t.

It's those looks and comments that make you say fvck it!They think I'm on,but I'm not.So why not go on?I'll get better results and peoples opinions will stay the same.
 
100mg ED is a lot of prop, but most of us aren't 6'6 lol


there's so many factors that affect the pain when pinning. There's the gear itself which can be diluted with more oil. There's the gauge needle you use. You should also try to warm up the gear a little if possible, inject slowly, massage the injection site.

Some people like to train whatever muscle group they injected into, they say it helps disperse the oil, maybe just mental tho.

I still like the idea of something like 75mg Test Prop and 50mg Tren Ace in the same barrel ED. Haven't run any of this **** tho, just research so far.

I used to shoot my sustanon into the tricep. Didn't hurt. In fact, I used to look forward to it.
 
It's those looks and comments that make you say fvck it!They think I'm on,but I'm not.So why not go on?I'll get better results and peoples opionions will stay the same.

Hell fvckin yea! and since I am on now... it's even more fun!
 
IMO newbies should start low.It just doesn't make sence to me to start high.What if you didn't need it?Now you'll never know cause you sure as hell won't decrease the dose next time.With a fast acting ester like prop you can just up the dose mid cycle if desired,and see the benifits shortly.

Anyways heavies,hows the pain from the injections for you with prop?Some say they can't work a muscle for like 3 days after injecting it.Others say it aint that bad.I guess it depends on the gear.Some are saying the injecter too,but what can one do to make an injection site sore or not sore?I have just heard guys say it's not my technique.........Are they saying they don't wiggle the needle around or what?
I won't lie to ya they will make you sore and you will be knotted up in that area, but it is well worth any discomfort. HOWEVER, the guys that say they can't WO or whatever I think are PU$$IES, it just comes with the territory....

It does come down to technique. If you push to fast or run too much into a site that has been over used it can really make you sore. I prefer the Z injection technique, if you want I can post a handout on it. It ensures that you limit the hydraulic action in the depot, and deposit all of the sh!t. There really should be no reason to wiggle, you fvcking just stick it and push it, no real biggie.....

Again guys who fvcking whine about that sh!t are ................... I really have no further comment on that sh!t................
 
Tren Evil! kinda

Tren is some serious stuff. I took 60mgs daily w/ 500mg Test/E weekly. Im usually/mostly a really calm non confrontational guy. That stuff made me a ****- short temper mainly w/ my girlfriend---just irritable. High blood pressure, acne wasnt bad. I just didnt feel that great- and i thought it would actually do more than it did. Strength was ok...not any greater than i usually get from others--superdrol, epistane, d-bol, ---winny was better for strength for me believe it or not---but at 100 mgs daily for 2 wks along w/ 700mgs prop wkly. for a 2 wk burst. I dont know if ill do it again. Still held some water- but i do on most all progestins regardless. To me the sides may outweigh the benefits....may try again someday w/ lower doseages....maybe

Oh yeah dont forget night sweats....and day sweats and difficulty falling/staying asleep.
 
Tren is some serious stuff. I took 60mgs daily w/ 500mg Test/E weekly. Im usually/mostly a really calm non confrontational guy. That stuff made me a ****- short temper mainly w/ my girlfriend---just irritable. High blood pressure, acne wasnt bad. I just didnt feel that great- and i thought it would actually do more than it did. Strength was ok...not any greater than i usually get from others--superdrol, epistane, d-bol, ---winny was better for strength for me believe it or not---but at 100 mgs daily for 2 wks along w/ 700mgs prop wkly. for a 2 wk burst. I dont know if ill do it again. Still held some water- but i do on most all progestins regardless. To me the sides may outweigh the benefits....may try again someday w/ lower doseages....maybe

Oh yeah dont forget night sweats....and day sweats and difficulty falling/staying asleep.

Tren can be awful, everybody responds differently.....
 
I won't lie to ya they will make you sore and you will be knotted up in that area, but it is well worth any discomfort. HOWEVER, the guys that say they can't WO or whatever I think are PU$$IES, it just comes with the territory....

It does come down to technique. If you push to fast or run too much into a site that has been over used it can really make you sore. I prefer the Z injection technique, if you want I can post a handout on it. It ensures that you limit the hydraulic action in the depot, and deposit all of the sh!t. There really should be no reason to wiggle, you fvcking just stick it and push it, no real biggie.....

Again guys who fvcking whine about that sh!t are ................... I really have no further comment on that sh!t................

POST THE HANDOUT!!!!Yeah I know theirs no reason to wiggle the needle,but guys are saying their sore and it's not their technique cause they inject themselves and friends and have good technique.So I was just :wtf:
 
I won't lie to ya they will make you sore and you will be knotted up in that area, but it is well worth any discomfort. HOWEVER, the guys that say they can't WO or whatever I think are PU$$IES, it just comes with the territory....

It does come down to technique. If you push to fast or run too much into a site that has been over used it can really make you sore. I prefer the Z injection technique, if you want I can post a handout on it. It ensures that you limit the hydraulic action in the depot, and deposit all of the sh!t. There really should be no reason to wiggle, you fvcking just stick it and push it, no real biggie.....

Again guys who fvcking whine about that sh!t are ................... I really have no further comment on that sh!t................

Granted I have never pinned... but I would figure, by the time you got there, the shot should be just something that you deal with, I mean ****, it's how you are gonna get bigger... I think I would look forward to that ****, I mean not the pain, but the bigger picture.

So... Fvck the pain, you are doing this for a reason right? If you're the real deal, then suck it up. Like I said before... Slam that sh*t in your neck you fvcking pussies! lmao.:thumbsup: Straight to the dome!
 
I'm excited about pinning!Shots aren't sh!t!!!You just gotta get past the mental thing of you doing it to yourself.I pierced my eyebrows throughout highschool,and my nipple once.So bring on a fvcking needle in the ass!!!
 
Yea... both tren and deca scare the bejesus out of me. I like my junk to work properly. It would be pretty bad ass to curl 275 though. Especially at 185lbs. LMAO! I already get those "I know you are taking juice" looks (from the trainers at my gym) that BS was talking about the other day... I can't imagine what would happen if I took something that strong. I would probably wind up in prison for destroying too much sh*t.
I hate that sh!t... looks of envy. Many have a misconception of steroids and even supplements. The worst is when you're in solid shape and are taking a good supp stack and you're veins are out and muscles are full and still get the steroid looks. I am using Blueprint, lots of beta alanine, NO-Shotgun/NO-Synthesize in PCT along with AP/Neovar2.0 and P-Slin on workout days.... I'm actually drier, more vascular, and denser than I was 'on'. I try to take it for what it is, but some days people can be annoying especially if someone has the balls to walk up and say, "you've gotta be taking something man."

"Who are you? You don't know me. I don't know you. Took a lot of nerve approaching me saying, 'you must be taking something'. Are you jealous or something? What's your problem?"

"uhhh... I was just curious...."

"No, man I don't think so. That's rude, man. Regardless of what I'm taking, I have a bad temper. Get lost."

Hahaha. I get riled up from pregnenolone @ 25 mgs.
 
I'm excited about pinning!Shots aren't sh!t!!!You just gotta get past the mental thing of you doing it to yourself.I pierced my eyebrows throughout highschool,and my nipple once.So bring on a fvcking needle in the ass!!!
I went through a phase, recently... well 8 months ago. Had my eyebrows pierced, upper gum/lip pierced, tongue pierced twice, under the tongue flap pierced 3 times with rings, nose pierced on both sides, ears pierced twiced and one pierced through the midpoint (forget the name) cartilage and back through the front.... and lower lip. Got em all cut out before getting ready to move back to NJ... mom woulda had a stroke.
 
I went through a phase, recently... well 8 months ago. Had my eyebrows pierced, upper gum/lip pierced, tongue pierced twice, under the tongue flap pierced 3 times with rings, nose pierced on both sides, ears pierced twiced and one pierced through the midpoint (forget the name) cartilage and back through the front.... and lower lip. Got em all cut out before getting ready to move back to NJ... mom woulda had a stroke.

I think it's called your septum right?Mine was a phase too.I pierced my eyebrows several time cause I couldn't let my parents see it,so I'd pierce one and take it out later.My nipple was out of boredom and just wanting to acomplish something.I was proud cause that sh!t hurts!Then I had my eyebrows and lip done profesionally at 18,and eventually just took the sh!t out.I prefer tattoos myself.....I don't realy get piercings.
 
I went through a phase, recently... well 8 months ago. Had my eyebrows pierced, upper gum/lip pierced, tongue pierced twice, under the tongue flap pierced 3 times with rings, nose pierced on both sides, ears pierced twiced and one pierced through the midpoint (forget the name) cartilage and back through the front.... and lower lip. Got em all cut out before getting ready to move back to NJ... mom woulda had a stroke.

Jebus. I have never had a piercing on the sole reason that if I got in a fight, well, the first thing I would do is rip someones piercings right off their face... and that sounds really really painful and disfiguring.
 
Jebus. I have never had a piercing on the sole reason that if I got in a fight, well, the first thing I would do is rip someones piercings right off their face... and that sounds really really painful and disfiguring.
Ahhh! My face is hurting thinking about that! lol.

You know what I just thought of... Ever see someone that just looks too friendly to ever fight? It's hard to explain... But, someone who just... I dunno... you couldn't really go off on too much. I dunno.

Yeah, I thought about that with the piercings, but I haven't gotten into any major situations... one time in traffic with a 'thug'. I always talk my way out of things first. I flipped off a van and it had 4 really mean looking black dudes... one pops his head out and goes, "yo dawg, yall got a problem n**ga?" I just said, "Just a little unbiased road rage. Nothing personal." lol... ended that without issues.
 
LMFAO!! :toofunny: they were probably like "dude, that is the whitest mofvcka i've EVER seen!" hahaha. that comment sounds like something dave chappell would have in a skit, on his show. also, i'm probably one of those "too friendly" looking dues who you couldn't go off at in a fight. lol. i just look like a nice, young, polite gentleman. little do people know though :twisted:
Haha! You know this Bassgod.

That's also another reason why I always try everything to avoid trouble... you never know what tricks people have under their sleeves!
 
I bet you could FVCK SH*T UP if you wanted to FOG, nothing brings out the best in me like sh*tty Fvcking drivers. I'm getting pissed just typing this.:aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh:
 
Oh by the way, let me highjack this thread and say that for the first time in my life I weigh 200lbs. Definately the happiest day of my life...ok well maybe the 134th happiest day of my life.
 
I bet you could FVCK SH*T UP if you wanted to FOG, nothing brings out the best in me like sh*tty Fvcking drivers. I'm getting pissed just typing this.:aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh:
Hahaha! Thanks man! If I do, I'll take pics and post it here on the thread.

I hear ya man! The worst are drivers that have had a little booze and they're driving their mom or dad's big ass Suburban/Tahoe with a car full of beer-muscled twigs. lol.

I'm in a Geo Tracker right now. LOL. A Honda Civic would rip my car in half if I got hit. I was getting tailed by a huge RAM 2500 in my neighborhood on my way home from work by a buncha high school fat kids. I go to blink to turn left to pull into the drive way and they blow by me on the left while flooring it (heard it loud as day, dropped back a gear)... must've been doing 45. Coulda killed me if I turned. No way I coulda caught up. I wish I had the window rolled down, I had an empty bottle of diet Stewart's Rootbeer I woulda shattered on the side of their truck.

What would you do?
 
Oh by the way, let me highjack this thread and say that for the first time in my life I weigh 200lbs. Definately the happiest day of my life...ok well maybe the 134th happiest day of my life.
NICE man! That's sick! Solid deuce! Reps
 
Hahaha! Thanks man! If I do, I'll take pics and post it here on the thread.

I hear ya man! The worst are drivers that have had a little booze and they're driving their mom or dad's big ass Suburban/Tahoe with a car full of beer-muscled twigs. lol.

I'm in a Geo Tracker right now. LOL. A Honda Civic would rip my car in half if I got hit. I was getting tailed by a huge RAM 2500 in my neighborhood on my way home from work by a buncha high school fat kids. I go to blink to turn left to pull into the drive way and they blow by me on the left while flooring it (heard it loud as day, dropped back a gear)... must've been doing 45. Coulda killed me if I turned. No way I coulda caught up. I wish I had the window rolled down, I had an empty bottle of diet Stewart's Rootbeer I woulda shattered on the side of their truck.

What would you do?

I remember that sht!! I'm still pissed about that too!! lol...What would I do.........?
well, One time some Mexican Geez were whistling at my girl in the passenger seat of my bigass lifted Z71 and I got so fcuking pissed that I grabbed my Glock 45 leaned over to her side of the truck pushed her down and fired 4 shots at them in the middle of the afternoon at a red light in a large city I won't name. That's one time I shot at someone for disrespecting me but it certainly wasn't the first or the last LMFAO....Of course prison mellowed me out a bit:thumbsup:.....
 
I remember that sht!! I'm still pissed about that too!! lol...What would I do.........?
well, One time some Mexican Geez were whistling at my girl in the passenger seat of my bigass lifted Z71 and I got so fcuking pissed that I grabbed my Glock 45 leaned over to her side of the truck pushed her down and fired 4 shots at them in the middle of the afternoon at a red light in a large city I won't name. That's one time I shot at someone for disrespecting me but it certainly wasn't the first or the last LMFAO....Of course prison mellowed me out a bit:thumbsup:.....
Hahaha! They all poohed themselves none the less ;)
 
This is EXACTLY why I keep mine in the back seat. I would do something dumb. I have loaded, cocked, and aimed mine at somebody, but thankfully didn't have to pull the trigger. My life literally was in danger though, so if I had to, I had every right. This world is fvckin crazy and people do dumb shyt. Then they quickly realize "whoops, maybe this wasn't the dude to do that to."
I never had a gun, LOL. That stuff's insane! I used to drive my 89 flat black Mustang GT wearing those police SAP gloves incase something went sour. lol. I thought that and a retractable baton was badass!
 
you never know what tricks people have under their sleeves!
Or guns!!! It doesn't pay to try and be a bad@ss these days. It can get you fukkin' shot!! Too many pussies out there today. Boyz are scared to fight fair like the ol' days. :twisted: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
This is EXACTLY why I keep mine in the back seat. I would do something dumb. I have loaded, cocked, and aimed mine at somebody, but thankfully didn't have to pull the trigger. My life literally was in danger though, so if I had to, I had every right. This world is fvckin crazy and people do dumb shyt. Then they quickly realize "whoops, maybe this wasn't the dude to do that to."

Well I can't "legally" bare arms anymore due to a related event that may or may not have involved me shooting at some other guys and one of them "falling" onto a bigass hunting knife that I may or may not have been holding onto at the time :thumbsup: So yea keep that sht in the back seat I guess. However I see no need to even have a gun unless it's on you at al times and ready to go.
That's one thing I love about the Glock brand.....no safety and you don't have to **** it or engage the action it's just ready to fire any time, all the time. Best handgun I ever owned hands down.....Had some nice assault rifles at one time too but no more:(. Now I just eat roids and drive around with a lead corked baseball bat...:head:
Fcuk around and get dealt with!
 
I remember that sht!! I'm still pissed about that too!! lol...What would I do.........?
well, One time some Mexican Geez were whistling at my girl in the passenger seat of my bigass lifted Z71 and I got so fcuking pissed that I grabbed my Glock 45 leaned over to her side of the truck pushed her down and fired 4 shots at them in the middle of the afternoon at a red light in a large city I won't name. That's one time I shot at someone for disrespecting me but it certainly wasn't the first or the last LMFAO....Of course prison mellowed me out a bit:thumbsup:.....

BS is easily the craziest mofo in Doom Crew. Hands down.

I usually just hit people.
 
I wish I could own a handgun and go target shooting. I bet that is so fu*king theraputic... But the Manhattan gun laws are so tight, can't have one without a permit, and they make the permit impossible to get...
 
Okay... I'm inspired to start weapons exercises again and hand-to-hand combat drills. Good change for cardio days too. Thanks!
 
Well I can't "legally" bare arms anymore due to a related event that may or may not have involved me shooting at some other guys and one of them "falling" onto a bigass hunting knife that I may or may not have been holding onto at the time :thumbsup: So yea keep that sht in the back seat I guess. However I see no need to even have a gun unless it's on you at al times and ready to go.
That's one thing I love about the Glock brand.....no safety and you don't have to **** it or engage the action it's just ready to fire any time, all the time. Best handgun I ever owned hands down.....Had some nice assault rifles at one time too but no more:(. Now I just eat roids and drive around with a lead corked baseball bat...:head:
Fcuk around and get dealt with!

I love how the curse filter bleeped out your c*ck.
 
Let some of them GWEDO MOFO'S ROLL UP ON DA FUHER.......

this is the AA12.......if this don't get your c0ck hard your probably a fvcking faggot..........

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhstuvzMiB0"]YouTube - AA12 Automatic Shotgun[/ame]
 
Jebus. I have never had a piercing on the sole reason that if I got in a fight, well, the first thing I would do is rip someones piercings right off their face... and that sounds really really painful and disfiguring.
Lol! I had that problem! I got jumped a few years back and they ripped my eyebrow piercing out! It really didn't hurt that bad though, probably because of the "other" damage they did took the attention away from my eyebrow. Oh well lesson learned I guess..
 
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