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M Drol/P-Plex cycle

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Joeypspaa

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23 yrs old

5'9" 208 lbs

2 years training

Did SOS 250 in JAN.

CYCLE

P-Plex 15mg for the first 3 days then for 3 weeks 30/30/30

Mdrol 10mg for the first 3 days then for 3 weeks 20/20/20

PCT novadex xt (not nolvadex) running 4 caps per day starting the last day of cycle. After that I will run Diesel Test Hardcore.

I started this cycle on Thursday. Im not going to be keeping an everyday log but I will check in every few days or so with some updates for anyone interested.

Today is Sat. and so far absolutely NO sides at all. Intense workouts to date with much vascularity.

**If anyone has ran this cycle before please let me know how you made out!!
 
I think you'l find very few people would run this cycle....why.....because its an incredibly stupid thing to do! You don't even have a SERM. Obviously you didn't do any research.

Hope your a boobs man.
 
I ran a Sostonol 250 cycle without a SERM in January. Everything went great. And yes I did a lot of research but if you cant get a SERM legally I won't use it. I used novadex xt and revivet for PCT with SOS. Why would this be a stupid cycle??? Because the are both methylated compounds??? SOS might have been stupid, that was 3 methyls?? 2 maybe?? But I have read plenty of logs with 2 methyls being used!! Most of them with positive feedback!
 
dude if your not wanting to use a serm then stay away from these compounds! i think i told you a few weeks ago that you should try running jw because im pretty sure it doesn't require a serm and it still yields some descent gains.
 
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Manimalia said:
it's perfectly fine to get tamoxifen citrate, clomid, etc. from research chem sites. they're just as viable and just as quality as the scripts. get some if i were you.
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Thanks alot for the info. and the nice response. I don't really appreciate some of the sarcasm above. I guess I'm kind of new at this and I really didn't want to use nolva but since it is ok to get it from research sites I will use it. Thank You!
 
When you're 'new to this' you shouldn't go around pretending like you know what's what. If you hadn't listened to the sarcasm above come 5 weeks from now you'd have a serious case of man tits.
 
Rugger1 said:
When you're 'new to this' you shouldn't go around pretending like you know what's what. If you hadn't listened to the sarcasm above come 5 weeks from now you'd have a serious case of man tits.
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Yes the sarcasm helped but the issue could have been presented in a more postive concerning manner. And how am I pretending to know what's what. I read alot of forums and researched alot of supps. Yea I saw everyone was using nolva, but a few others were not. I talked to a guy at a nearby supp store were they sell all this type of stuff and he said that nolva is not necessary, that I could use novadex xt. I tried to do alot of research. Maybe it wasn't totally the lack of research and more the poor quality of sources. But I did research. I also asked for help, not criticism. Can't I get some advice without the bashing. OK I was wrong, thats fine, but the put downs are not necessary. I would still like some help and I am willing to listen to what anyone has to say, especially with experience. I do appreciate everyones responses and would like learn more. Thanks
 
Joeypspaa said:
Yes the sarcasm helped but the issue could have been presented in a more postive concerning manner. And how am I pretending to know what's what. I read alot of forums and researched alot of supps. Yea I saw everyone was using nolva, but a few others were not. I talked to a guy at a nearby supp store were they sell all this type of stuff and he said that nolva is not necessary, that I could use novadex xt. I tried to do alot of research. Maybe it wasn't totally the lack of research and more the poor quality of sources. But I did research. I also asked for help, not criticism. Can't I get some advice without the bashing. OK I was wrong, thats fine, but the put downs are not necessary. I would still like some help and I am willing to listen to what anyone has to say, especially with experience. I do appreciate everyones responses and would like learn more. Thanks
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K good. Well, as you now know, you need a serm. If you don't chances are very good you'll get some tits. Hell, guys get tits on that **** even when they DO have a serm. This is nothing to **** around with and it's not safer than injects.
 
Rugger1 said:
K good. Well, as you now know, you need a serm. If you don't chances are very good you'll get some tits. Hell, guys get tits on that **** even when they DO have a serm. This is nothing to **** around with and it's not safer than injects.
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ol' rugger is right. i feel it's necessary to tell the horror stories i've seen, just from one person alone, one person of many.

he, essentially, did three straight cycles of halodrol, M1T, and then Superdrol. let's just say he ended up with:

1. no libido
2. small breasts that lactated blood
3. a broken collarbone, jacked up rotator cuff, and bad joints
4. a drop in strength from wacked hormonal levels
5. lower numbers on his favorite exercise among others, the bench press (go figure), from the injuries that accrued.
6. bad internal levels overall, actually.
7. psychological problems.

he got ****ed UP!!!! be careful m'man. get a SERM to help raise you test/keep estrogen in check, get an aromatase inhibitor for after the serm and taper it down to help lower the estrogen back to normal. get you some liver, prostate, hearth health supps for obvious reasons. if you run a cycle and PCT SUCKS, you might as well have not run the damn cycle, cause you would have just mostly made your body jacked up and wasted money/time.
 
Thank you both for the feedback. I just order tamox over the weekend and I got a confirmation that it will be shipped today. For an AI will I be able to use the novadex xt since I already have it, so it doesn't go to waste. And how should I dose the nolva? I stuck to the cycle that I orginally posted 3 days and 3 weeks. Should I start the nolva on the same day as the last day of my cycle? And when should I begin the AI and diesel test? I guess I didn't realize how serious this **** is. Thanks again for the help!
 
Joeypspaa said:
Thank you both for the feedback. I just order tamox over the weekend and I got a confirmation that it will be shipped today. For an AI will I be able to use the novadex xt since I already have it, so it doesn't go to waste. And how should I dose the nolva? I stuck to the cycle that I orginally posted 3 days and 3 weeks. Should I start the nolva on the same day as the last day of my cycle? And when should I begin the AI and diesel test? I guess I didn't realize how serious this **** is. Thanks again for the help!
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Just choose one or the other. Both will yeild impressive gains. I can vouch for Phera putting on some serious mass and strength. Really won't make much difference running both together and your liver will thank you for it.
 
Im already on day 5 of mdrol and p-plex. This is my second day at 20 mg mdrol and 30 pp. Can I just stop taking one and continue taking the other? Or should I just go through with it now?
 
I have done numerous cycles with Nov xt for pct, its a good product but for what your messing around with (superdrol) and its high effects of gyno, id be safe rather than sorry and get the real deal. Ps. If your running the xt for pct you want to dosage down, star 6 caps week1, 4 caps week2 and 3 caps for the rest.
 
Drop the PP. If PP gives you gyno the nolva wont do jack for stopping it.

And to the guy above. your very lucky you've recovered ok, well you think you have anyway, but dont go around telling people Novedex XT is adequate for such a harsh compound's PCT.
 
OK I am going to drop the PP. Thanks

FYI - weight is up 3 lbs so far to 211. Not feeling any sides yet. Maybe a little tired but nothing too bad.
 
Australian made said:
Drop the PP. If PP gives you gyno the nolva wont do jack for stopping it.
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there are a lot of issues with prolactin in PP, if you run it I would rec dosing p-5-p with it.

Australian made said:
And to the guy above. your very lucky you've recovered ok, well you think you have anyway, but dont go around telling people Novedex XT is adequate for such a harsh compound's PCT.
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x2 - that's not sound advice
 
clomid and adex pct.......

normal clomid protocol.

begin adex as soon as you feel puffy nips...... if not hit it in pct... then taper the dosage down.

also kick in some B-6

do not use nolva for superdrol or phera plex..........
 
also, what are you running for support supps?
 
Yeah i knew prolactin gyno didn't respond to Nolva treatment but i couldn't go into to much further detail. Wasn't sure about Nolva for superdrol though.

P-5-P is a must and having caber on hand would be sweet, but that stuff aint cheap.
 
also, if you're running CEL P-Plex then you might be running a higher dose than you thought (33% stronger)...
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something to take into consideration!

also, if you don't think you're taking this too lightly start reading up on some of the logs...
Brians been running Phera for 3 weeks and is just starting a bridge to sd...he's more experienced and he's had to work through some issues with his cycle. (getting some fantastic results with PP though!)
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instead of doing it like you planned why dont you run a bridging cycle like me. This is my mdrol and pplex cycle im starting next week as soon as my cycle support comes in:

M-Drol 20/20/20/ 0/ 0/ 0
P-Plex 0 /0 /15/30/30/30

Thats my 6 week cycle i have planned :D i so cant eait till next week :)
 
I don't think that is a good idea...I think you should run a cycle of each compound so you know how you will react to it before you start stacking or bridging anything.

also, if you're prone to balding...p-plex will probably make you shed some hair.
 
i already have run a cycle of each :) im pretty experianced as is but if joeypspaa is persistant in continuing hes cycle, you may offer ways to miniize the risk instead of thread bashing :)
 
the only thing im taking for support supps is 600mg of milk thistle and 3000mg of flax seed oil a day along with multivitamins, amino acids and lots of protien. Tomorrow will be day 6. What else should I add? I know that there is a ton of things I could add but what is a must have that I need asap? Also I ordered Nolva already, whould this still be effective for PCT even though it may not be effective for gyno problems?

WOW! This is stressful. But I do appreciate the help everyone is giving. Thanks!!
 
Joeypspaa said:
the only thing im taking for support supps is 600mg of milk thistle and 3000mg of flax seed oil a day along with multivitamins, amino acids and lots of protien. Tomorrow will be day 6. What else should I add? I know that there is a ton of things I could add but what is a must have that I need asap? Also I ordered Nolva already, whould this still be effective for PCT even though it may not be effective for gyno problems?

WOW! This is stressful. But I do appreciate the help everyone is giving. Thanks!!
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Dude, you really shouldn't start a cycle unless you already have all the stuff you need on hand. This is some pretty powerful stuff you are dealing with, with the potential to profoundly alter your body (in good and bad ways). You definitely did not do enough research.

That said, look into Cycle Support.

Good luck, man.
 
Yea I know I didn't do enough research. I made a mistake, now Im looking for help to finish this safely.
 
hey guys i had planned to do my 6 week m-drol and p-plex cycle like this:

M-Drol 20/20/20/ 0/ 0/ 0
P-Plex 0 /0 /15/30/30/30

however i came across this info sheet which is from anabolic xtreme when they first bought out pheraplex and it says that for the most effective and potent stack run it like this:

WEEK: Phera-Plex Superdrol

1 10-20mg
2 20-30mg
3 20-30mg
4 20mg 20mg
5 20mg 20mg
6 20-30mg
7 20-30mg
8 20-30mg

That seems like a long and potent cycle and attached is the sheet to proove it. Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on this as it is what anabolic xtreme and designer supps recomennded ? Also has anyone actually ran this cycle ? im thinking about trying it next week :)
 

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mattakaspeeed said:
hey guys i had planned to do my 6 week m-drol and p-plex cycle like this:

M-Drol 20/20/20/ 0/ 0/ 0
P-Plex 0 /0 /15/30/30/30

however i came across this info sheet which is from anabolic xtreme when they first bought out pheraplex and it says that for the most effective and potent stack run it like this:

WEEK: Phera-Plex Superdrol

1 10-20mg
2 20-30mg
3 20-30mg
4 20mg 20mg
5 20mg 20mg
6 20-30mg
7 20-30mg
8 20-30mg

That seems like a long and potent cycle and attached is the sheet to proove it. Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on this as it is what anabolic xtreme and designer supps recomennded ? Also has anyone actually ran this cycle ? im thinking about trying it next week :)
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Dont EVER run that cycle!! Don't go off what AX said back in the day, stick to what people are running now. 3-4 week cycles of either one or the other. Look at the PCT they outline, rubbish.
 
mattakaspeeed said:
lol so i take it no one has ever ran that cycle they suggested ? why would they recomend it if it is seriously bad for you ?
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Im sure people did run it back when it was available to anyone with a credit card. Know one knew what it was, i nearly bought a few bottles myself when it first came out and i know i would have ran it non stop until the bottle ran out or the sides got to me. PCT? as if i even knew what that meant.

Lets face it all of these modern ph's are available to anyone pretty much. The companies put a warning label on that most ignore. AX did the same.
 
With a healthy adult male 25 years or older, that doesnt drink alcohol, smoke cigerattes, eats very close to perfect, has 20% BF or less with at least 1 year of gym experience. 23 Y/O is the absolute minimum age requirement, IMO.

More than 3 or 4 weeks is doable.

This cycle may or may not affect every guy the same. Thats the trouble with it.

I do agree 8 weeks is a bit harsh. I think 4 weeks is too short.

I would say 6 weeks would be the absolute max, provided everything else above/below is in check......

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Healthy male- I hope i dont need to explain this.(recent bloowork on hdl, ldl, liver values and the like.
NO ALCOHOL or anything else they may tax the liver and kidneys.
Smoking of any kind is definately a no on
Proper Diet and water consumption is critcial.
Support system during cycle and afterwards.
PROPER post cycle therapy....clomid/adex or clomid/aromasin

If any of these are not inline....... Weeks need to be subtracted from cycle proportionally or totally abondoned.

my 2 cents.
 
and what about my cycle:

P-Plex 15/30/45/45/45
M-Drol 0/ 0/ 0/ 20/20/20

That is a pretty potent bridging cycle which i plan to start nextweek...
 
and what about my cycle:

P-Plex 15/30/45/45/45
M-Drol 0/ 0/ 0/ 20/20/20

That is a pretty potent bridging cycle which i plan to start nextweek, see the lbs stack on :P
 
mattakaspeeed said:
and what about my cycle:

P-Plex 15/30/45/45/45
M-Drol 0/ 0/ 0/ 20/20/20

That is a pretty potent bridging cycle which i plan to start nextweek...
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In my opinion i think your too young. period.

I gave my advise. If you choose to ignore it thats your choice.

all i can say is supps and post cycle therapy.........do them right.........
 
Kristofer68SS said:
With a healthy adult male 25 years or older, that doesnt drink alcohol, smoke cigerattes, eats very close to perfect, has 20% BF or less with at least 1 year of gym experience. 23 Y/O is the absolute minimum age requirement, IMO.

More than 3 or 4 weeks is doable.

This cycle may or may not affect every guy the same. Thats the trouble with it.

I do agree 8 weeks is a bit harsh. I think 4 weeks is too short.

I would say 6 weeks would be the absolute max, provided everything else above/below is in check......

Breakdown-
Healthy male- I hope i dont need to explain this.(recent bloowork on hdl, ldl, liver values and the like.
NO ALCOHOL or anything else they may tax the liver and kidneys.
Smoking of any kind is definately a no on
Proper Diet and water consumption is critcial.
Support system during cycle and afterwards.
PROPER post cycle therapy....clomid/adex or clomid/aromasin

If any of these are not inline....... Weeks need to be subtracted from cycle proportionally or totally abondoned.

my 2 cents.
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Smoking actually blocks estrogen. I use smoking as a support supp.
 
Formula94 that was the topic d*ckhead. The topic is a mdrol and pplex cycle which is what i am currently running however mine is a bridge which is better than running both at the same time an that is why i posted it.
 
mattakaspeeed said:
Formula94 that was the topic d*ckhead. The topic is a mdrol and pplex cycle which is what i am currently running however mine is a bridge which is better than running both at the same time an that is why i posted it.
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Why you calling him a d*ckhead when you clearly hijacked the thread asking for a critique of your proposed cycle? You even contradict yourself with stating the topic of the thread but then saying HOWEVER mine is a bridge blah blah blah. That is hijacking!...and you call him a d*ckhead...nice. So you just made yourself look stupid.

I have read numerous threads just today where people are name calling others for something so stupid that I feel just as stupid commenting on their stupidness :p

Granted hijacking happens all the time but name calling someone who points out something you clearly did...just bewilders me...
 
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