I cant vote... my choice is genetics
My arms are my least worked body part and still stand out more then anything else....
I cant vote... my choice is genetics
My arms are my least worked body part and still stand out more then anything else....
no always had good sized well defined peaks on my arms that have continued to stay ahead of everything else. I def dont over work others, cause I still make good gains for them in strength and size.... its just a matter of genetics... used to be annoying till everything else started to catch up, not so bad now.Maybe you over work everything else![]()
When I first started it was high volume (15+ sets) and I worked bi's with back and tri's with chest.
I made decent gains then plateau'd
My arms EXPLODED when I started supersetting bi's and tri's.
My workout:
Preacher curls
Superset<
(3 sets each) Close grip bench
Alternate curls
Superset<
(3 sets each) Overhead 2 hand DB tri xtn
Concentration curls
Superset<
(3 sets each) Tricep pushdown (one or two handed)
For biceps, if I could get MORE than 6 reps on the last set of any given excercise...it's too light. Raise weights next workout. Concentration curls you can go a little higher...perhaps 8-12 reps. Make sure you squeeze the $H!t out of each rep though.
For triceps if you can get more than 10 reps on the first two exercises its too light. For pushdowns I like to do no more than 15 but no less than 10-12. For the one handed version I like alternating each rep protonated and supinated grip. That'll give you a pump you wouldn't believe.
Notice total volumes:
Biceps-9 total sets per week
Triceps-9 total sets per week
Sets are taken to extreme failure since volume is low. Trust me, if you think its too heavy you're probably being a wuss. I actually used to get nauseous doing this. As the weight is very heavy use good form and listen to your body because elbows aren't known for being the most stable joint in the human body.
I went from 13" arms to 19" arms in about 2 years doing this routine (all natural I might add).
All this being said, diet is important as well as recovery but you probably already knew that.
Happy training!
Even his diet built muscle..."eat eggs your body needs the cholesterol to build muscle" he'd preach throughout the 60's, 70's, 80's...
Today studies show he was spot on:
Researchers out of Kent State University investigated the effects of a high (2.6mg/lb) and low (1.6mg/lb) cholesterol diet during a 12 week weight-training program. After 12 weeks the subjects consuming the higher cholesterol diet increased muscle mass by an average of about 5 pounds and increased strength by almost 90 percent, while the lower cholestrol group did not show any increases in muscle mass and gained only about 35 percent in strength. - from: Riechman SE, Dietary and Blood Cholesterol and Statins Increase Hypertrophy with Resistance Training, FASEB Journal 2005 19 A1571
You do this once or twice a week?
Do you have the link to that article? I just wanna read the entire thing, it interests me....
My Boy says he can eat 50 eggs...
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As a prelude to the film's memorable, comic egg-eating contest scene, Dragline bets on his boy Luke: "He can eat busted bottles and rusty nails, any damned thing." Luke boldly wagers that he can eat fifty hard-boiled eggs in one hour. [The number 50 becomes significant - since there are 50 prisoners' souls and 50 eggs, Luke's ingesting of the eggs parallels Christ's taking upon himself the sins of the world and bringing about a rebirth. Eggs, the celebration of Easter, and the resurrection are symbolically tied together.] The men exuberantly bet against him, disbelieving that he can perform the miracle without throwing up: "Fifty eggs gotta weigh a good six pounds...A man's gut can't hold that. They'll swell up and bust him open....They're gonna kill him." Remarkably, Luke takes the challenge - it's raining and the activity will pass the time: "It be somethin' to do." After a period of preparatory training, stretching his stomach's skin to make room for the eggs ("What we gotta do is stretch that little ol' belly of yours. Get all this stuff out of the way. Them eggs are coming down!"), and eating speed tests, Luke is about ready. He sits on his top bunk with a towel draped over his head [another Christ image].
Dragline readies the crowd for the contest: "All right. Stand back you pedestrians, this ain't no automobile accident." As Luke's trainer, he peels the eggs before they are eaten, arguing that Luke doesn't have to peel his own eggs within the hour limit: "When it comes to the law, nothin' is understood...I'm his official egg-peeler. That's the law!" The big event begins with Luke's entrance, the removal of his shirt, and his kneeling down in front of the men who surround a table in front of him. One of the convicts observes how quickly Luke pops each egg in his mouth: "He's gonna lose a finger eatin' eggs like that." After 32 eggs, Luke's bloated stomach bows out: "Just like a ripe watermelon that's about to bust itself open." Some of the men bet against him as Luke anoints his forehead with water. Dragline, with Luke in cahoots with him, encourages everyone to wager everything against Luke: "I wanna hear from some big money men. Where's all the high rollers?" Society Red (J.D. Cannon) replies that everything has been bet: "I believe you've got it all, Dragline. Every cent in camp is riding."
As time is running out, and Luke approaches the elusive goal of 50 eggs, Dragline coaxes him on: "Just nine more between you and everlastin' glory...Just little ol' eggs. They pigeon eggs, that's all." The men mimic his chewing action. Up until the last second, it is uncertain whether he has swallowed the last egg. After his winning victory, Luke is laid out on a table strewn with egg shells. The men quickly forget about him and abandon him after using him for their own amusement. Luke is left alone - from an overhead shot, his arms are outstretched, his legs are crossed at the ankle, his eyes are closed, and his head is tilted toward the left - [a symbolic Christ-like crucifixion pose]. An enigmatic grin crosses his face.
Still one of the greatest movies EVER!
Yeah I love this movie too.
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Captain: What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Some men, you just can't reach.
So you get what we had here last week -- which is the way he wants it.
Well, he gets it.
And I don't like it anymore than you men.
i want 16s
I got small joints so atleast it makes my arms look bigger...
Very helpful. So how does one go about getting the right parents when they are, say, 24 years old?Get the right parents. I have big biceps and I always thought they were the product of not working them a lot and so they were recovering. I then realized both my parents have big arms and they never work out with weights (not overweight either). Now my 8 year old daughter has big arms as well and she is lean from soccer.
Get the right parents. I have big biceps and I always thought they were the product of not working them a lot and so they were recovering. I then realized both my parents have big arms and they never work out with weights (not overweight either). Now my 8 year old daughter has big arms as well and she is lean from soccer.
I have an arm size issue too, no matter how hard I try, the third one always seems like it could be bigger, even though it's huge and my gf says if it got any bigger she'd be afraid of it.
hahahah nice!.
situation:
so your chillin somewhere and theres this hot girl. she is instincutally turned on my your alpha-male-ness and you just wanna release some of your 1000mg per week of injected testosterone. so you figure its best to ask her to lunch first. to us there is no lunch. its like, hey....wanna hook up for some meal 3 today? and then she goes and hooks up with the skinny starbucks drinking tight ass abercrombie faggot wearing perfume.
For mass gains in any muscle group: heavy weight-less reps. Also don't forget that your muscles grow when you rest, not when you push for that last set in a 2 hour arm workout, that's when definition is developed. give your bi's and tri's 3-4 days off after a day of heavy weight, and don't do both muscle groups on the same day. Bi's and hammies on tues, bi's and back on fri. tri's and chest on mon. tri's and quad's on thurs. for example.
THE LONG HEAD OF THE TRICEPS AND THE PEAK OF THE BICEPS ARE COMPOSED OF FAST TWITCH MUSCLE FIBERS, THESE ARE THE PRIMARY "SIZE" MUSCLE GROUPS OF THESE AREAS.
Everyone who's familiar with fiber type training knows that fast-twitch muscle fibers require heavy weight and low reps. What a lot of trainees fail to do, however, is employ multiple sets of these low reps. Two to three sets of 4-6 reps just doesn't incur much growth, but the next ten sets of 4-6 reps sure does the trick.
Also, a protein shake of at least 35 grams of protein needs to be consumed within 30 minutes of a workout. diet is of the utmost importance in strength training, 2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight per day is needed for big muscle gains. sorry bout the capital letters, I wasn't trying to make a bold statement, my caps lock was on and I dont look at the screen when i type cause I suck at typing, but not at giving advice, thank you.:woohoo::woohoo::clap2:
I totally agree with you brother, keep the muscles guessing. My earlier statements aren't my opinion either, it's a matter of science for the best muscle growth. kinda like growing plants, mold or animals: there is always one recipe that proves results, the one that is looked up to in the highest regard; and more than likely, that one is derived from extensive research. I didn't mean to come off as if what I said was written in stone, but it is however, typed on the pages of textbooks
I dunno bro, Markus Ruhl and Branch Warren both disagree with your statement.
In an MD article they both agreed that for optimal arm growth one should hit the high rep ranges. Leave the ego at the door, lower reps are more so for strength.
It's worked for me, but to each his own.
I totally agree with you brother, keep the muscles guessing. My earlier statements aren't my opinion either, it's a matter of science for the best muscle growth. kinda like growing plants, mold or animals: there is always one recipe that proves results, the one that is looked up to in the highest regard; and more than likely, that one is derived from extensive research. I didn't mean to come off as if what I said was written in stone, but it is however, typed on the pages of textbooks
Touche' my freind, Touche':run:Well then if its typed in text books then it MUST be right...bro don't be so naive. If there was a guaranteed recipe for building muscle that was proven then why the **** would we even be on this body building forum.
I can use my self as an example. I have many routines out there, really I have. GVT, DC, Max-OT, HIT... and it keeps going.
When I say try I actually mean I gave it a solid 8 weeks of effort with a great diet. My conclusion is that different muscle require vastly different training regiments. My arms grow from high reps with relatively low weight, my calves need to be destroyed for an hour straight to get them to grow(GVT). My back needs very heavy weight with low reps range(max-ot). I train my chest and shoulders with drop sets and super sets. My quads are trained using HIT principles.
I am not disputing science, but every individual is unique and if there was indisputable evidence that a certain diet/routine would produce optimal results then the body building industry (ie. magazines and supps) would not be the multi billion dollar business it is today.
There are many facts that science has proven, but how each of us achieve those proven facts is whats makes us unique. This principle applies to a wide variety of things in society. How redundant would life be if we knew everything?
While certain muscles are known for being higher in a certain type of muscle fiber composition, genetic variability can breed the opposite. This actually allows everyone to be right.
High reps never did anything for my arms. Heavy weights in the 4-6 range made my arms explode. My arms actually went from 13" to 20" over the course of about 3 years using only this range. BUT, that just means my muscle fiber composition is opposite of yours.
Lesson learned? Know your body and what works for you!
I dunno bro, Markus Ruhl and Branch Warren both disagree with your statement.
In an MD article they both agreed that for optimal arm growth one should hit the high rep ranges. Leave the ego at the door, lower reps are more so for strength.
It's worked for me, but to each his own.
I have a complete lack of tricept muscles... zero...
I did 100lb dumbells for 12 reps today on incline bench but don't have a lick of tricept muscle... **** compound movements working!
....Also, a protein shake of at least 35 grams of protein needs to be consumed within 30 minutes of a workout.
2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight per day is needed for big muscle gains.
... I suck at typing, but not at giving advice, thank you.:woohoo::woohoo::clap2:
:toofunny::toofunny::toofunny:No not really. Switch to whole foods and you will see. You don't NEED a protein shake PWO.
No not really. In fact if you have a decent amount of fats in your diet you can grow on half of that...
...irregardless 2g/lb of protein is not NEEDED for big muscle gains.
I'll be the judge of that...yep you kinda suck at both.![]()
It was a joke bro. :thumbsup:
Yeah, you said that in may, when I posted it, thanks.yeah timmmah, you really dont NEED 2g of protein/lbs of body weight, but if you have no problem in doing that then go for it. But really, a lot of pro bbers dont even take in 2g/lb of bw.
i go for 1.25-1.5
Yeah, you said that in may, when I posted it, thanks.
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