this is a work in progress that is scheduled for release in 2-3 months
it is a 1-test precursor
that is all i am prepared to say for now
found the above. I think he is still banned from here and cannot post.
this is a work in progress that is scheduled for release in 2-3 months
it is a 1-test precursor
that is all i am prepared to say for now
untruefound the above. I think he is still banned from here and cannot post.
Ye, but Starbucks has everything to do with hippies.You mean the Italian coffee revolution, right? The use of words like Venti to denote cup size was started by Howard Schultz, the business mastermind behind Starbucks. It has nothing to do with hippies.
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Wrong. Hippies would want to patronize an independent, non-international, local coffee house. They want shade-grown organic beans. They want hand-packed espresso. They tend to appreciate better coffee.Ye, but Starbucks has everything to do with hippies.
HAHA i would think it was funny too if I jacked someones idea then called customs on em to prevent competition....
PURE POOPS PROPOGANDA ABOVE..... but what ev
Why does he compete with AX so bad though? Im guessing he sees them as a serious competitor to Ergo, or am I missing the point?hahaha PA is a funny, eccentric mother$#@&er. He does seem to have quite a hard-on for AX though. If this is the case, then cmon AX, get yer 3ad so we can get our 1ad already.
Well said poopy. However by loyalties I mean, my prior experiences. All of my experiences with AX products have been great, and im more likely to try a new AX product than say a product from Company Y, because of my prior experience. Because their products work, i consider myself loyal to them, however i have also found Ergo to product great products, yet i dont have as much experience with them.I honestly dont think there should be any such "loyaties" to either company, use whatever works.
The one thing that really causes the rift for me is when guys release exact same compounds suddenly or test other competitors stuff "at random" and come up with a better cleaner version when they find a tainted batch of the current manufacturers product.... I think that kind of business practice is what steers me away from ergo products, besides the price.... But you can bet if trhis product is a legit new prohormone that gives the same results as the original Ill be all over it, not cause its an ergo product but cause it works.
Same reason why I can say Ill take mass FX and HDX2 over other comps stuff, say Act EXt and Rebound Reloaded, I love DS supps and that is a nice stack but i think that AX's is better... not cause its ax's but cause it works.
Again I dont think there should be loyalties to a company rather to the supplements themselves, if you make some friends with reps then thats totally diff... I dont think that makes one loyal to a comp for defending a friend.
Either way I know I'll end up buying from Ergo if it really is the shiznit.
Then again ill also buy from AX as 3AD looks amazing....
Damnit.
Starbucks has evolved into more of a Yuppie thing; the creepy, self absorbed, bizzaro-hippie-type creature.Ye, but Starbucks has everything to do with hippies.
And soccer moms.Starbucks has evolved into more of a Yuppie thing; the creepy, self absorbed, bizzaro-hippie-type creature.
I honestly have trouble telling the differences, b/c they have become one in the same. They both listen to Widespread Panic, Gov't Mule, Phish, etc. They both have skewed perceptions of the real world. The truth is that most of these hipsters have merely finally graduated from college and are now part of the class that they attempted to rebel against. These muppets are even less credible now than they were before. Okay, now back on topic. I have better things to do than think about stinky feet, stinky coffee breath, bad dreadlocks, and ragged $100 clothing that was purchased worn.Starbucks has evolved into more of a Yuppie thing; the creepy, self absorbed, bizzaro-hippie-type creature.
:wave:Your avatar is hypnotising.Well if this is true.. I am definately interested in finding out wtf he is up to...If this is true Pat is either the stupidest guy in the world or the one with the biggest nut sack lol
Must have done ALOT of bottles non-stop.I can't remember when the last time I decent product was released on the market. Probably BSN's Endorush.
There was some guy who said that he is permanently on HRT because he did too many bottles of the old 1-AD and even post cycle therapy properly afterwards. :head:
It might be the extremely suppressive nature of 1-T.
I don't know how he used them, or to what frequency, he just mentioned that he used several bottles, and has had low test now for 2.5 years.Must have done ALOT of bottles non-stop.
I was on corticosteroids (mega gram doses (20 gram doses for any docs who know how high that is) for 2 years, and my adrenal glands are back and working fine....
The endocrine system is a robust monster, kind of like the bad guy at the end of Gear of War (t-rex)....it just wont die.*
.... that permanently on HRT boggles my mind, really it does, how do you get into that state in the first place....?
*yes, i am stuck killing the t-rex.
I KNOW! I eventually said Fvck it and played Co-op with some random dude on X-Box Live and beat that guy... it lets you do that still on your same campaign, so it works... but then you don't have the same satisfaction I suppose.*yes, i am stuck killing the t-rex.
:wave:Your avatar is hypnotising.
Yup, HRT is expensive and would suck if it was indeed true.PA himself has said in threads that 1ad and 4ad needed a very specific post cycle therapy, but never did say what that actually was. Sounds like it was real suppressive and an insufficient/sloppy post cycle therapy. HRT for life? That would suck.
On the right health insurance its not too expensive. $10 copay for testosterone enanthate for me.Yup, HRT is expensive and bad if it was indeed true.
It is always best to let someone else try something out first to see if there are any immediate problems (i.e. Superdrol, Lipokinetix, etc.)
PA himself has said in threads that 1ad and 4ad needed a very specific post cycle therapy, but never did say what that actually was. Sounds like it was real suppressive and an insufficient/sloppy post cycle therapy. HRT for life? That would suck.
Damn Easy. You got it easy.On the right health insurance its not too expensive. $10 copay for testosterone enanthate for me.
Ha, very true.Well, that would take out the fun if you knew what exactly you needed.
Have I told you lately I hate you.On the right health insurance its not too expensive. $10 copay for testosterone enanthate for me.
A trademark for a name is simply that. Legal Ownership of a name. PA can name his house 1-AD if he wants. Get it?The real question is can you use the same trademarked name 1-AD for the new product as well as the original when they are not the same ??
real prohormones:I'm confused. I know that PH's convert to a steroidal compound through the liver, so how does one get a PH compound to convert to anotherr PH compound to convert to a steroidal compound?
e.g. ? > 1AD > 1-Test
I'm confused. I know that PH's convert to a steroidal compound through the liver, so how does one get a PH compound to convert to anotherr PH compound to convert to a steroidal compound?
e.g. ? > 1AD > 1-Test
this is eactly how DHEA works... it converts twice to get to test, the thing is in between it allows it to change to other things and the end conversion rate isnt usually very high.
DHEA > 4-AD > Test
guessing this follows a similar path but still ends up with 70-85% of the original end product was it? that must be a very high amount of enzymes in whoever tested this for him to get that good of numbers after so many conversions.
that, my friend, is the mystery..... the only thing i can think of would be a 1-DHEA but someone shot that idea down saying PA said it wouldnt be very good conversion wise....okay that helps, but what compound today would convert to 1-AD then?
Gotcha. Good enough for me right now. Let's not start talking carbon rings or my head will explode. thanks for the help. oh and Stupified rocks! :cheers:that, my friend, is the mystery..... the only thing i can think of would be a 1-DHEA but someone shot that idea down saying PA said it wouldnt be very good conversion wise....
maybe he has some way to methylate it where the methylation breaks off upon first conversion so we end up with 1-test and not methyl 1-test.... dunno....
until he comes out and tell us we are all in the dark and stupified (enter disturbed song)
WTF? U lost?"I honestly have trouble telling the differences, b/c they have become one in the same. They both listen to Widespread Panic, Gov't Mule, Phish, etc. They both have skewed perceptions of the real world. The truth is that most of these hipsters have merely finally graduated from college and are now part of the class that they attempted to rebel against. These muppets are even less credible now than they were before. Okay, now back on topic. I have better things to do than think about stinky feet, stinky coffee breath, bad dreadlocks, and ragged $100 clothing that was purchased worn."
such broad generalizations. wow
Try having PA AND Carcinogen (Matt) discuss not only structure but synthesis of the new compound...all after getting jacked up on AMP2 washed down with mass quantities of ClearShot.Gotcha. Good enough for me right now. Let's not start talking carbon rings or my head will explode. thanks for the help. oh and Stupified rocks! :cheers:
WTF? U lost?
lol, I'm sure it would be similar to my Japanese classes. I'd sit their with a blank look on my face and a headache. :run:Try having PA AND Carcinogen (Matt) discuss not only structure but synthesis of the new compound...all after getting jacked up on AMP2 washed down with mass quantities of ClearShot.
Worst part is I understood just enough to feel like I am on the edge of understanding, only to have it slip away at the last minute....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...damn, gone.lol, I'm sure it would be similar to my Japanese classes. I'd sit their with a blank look on my face and a headache. :run:
Worst part is I understood just enough to feel like I am on the edge of understanding, only to have it slip away at the last minute....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...damn, gone.
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