diesel did'nt lie
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ReaperX
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I usually only use 1 so I can sleep at night. Try 3 R4W and let me know how you feel. 3 capsules kicks me pretty hard.
Australian made
Well-known member
my 2 bottles just arrived yesterday so i'll be giving it a go tomorrow........... because today i am hungover like a mother ****er
thebigt
Legend
haha thats funny, last thing you want to do with a hangover is take stims. btw dont take tylenol or acetaminofin products for hangover it will kill your liver.
thebigt
Legend
you're on, gonna take 3 before work tonight.
Australian made
Well-known member
i think i killed my liver last night drinking jugs of snakebites at the club anway.......its gunna be a looooong day
ReaperX
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bigt-
you should keep a log of your get diesel products you are using right now. I'd be very interested to see one. I picked up 6 bottles of DTH awhile ago while the sale was going on. I'm 2/3rds done with 1 of them, but I still have 5 unopened ones chilling on the shelves.
I should do something nuts, like a 1 year diesel test cycle.
you should keep a log of your get diesel products you are using right now. I'd be very interested to see one. I picked up 6 bottles of DTH awhile ago while the sale was going on. I'm 2/3rds done with 1 of them, but I still have 5 unopened ones chilling on the shelves.
I should do something nuts, like a 1 year diesel test cycle.
Rivet
Registered User
I really enjoyed DTH. Felt great while using it....
thebigt
Legend
they got me doing 12's at work again, we got a guy who just left for iraq in national guard, 15 months and we have a hiring freeze. no logs for awhile i cant commit. but one thing i can say is 3 r4w lasted for around 6 hours till i had to boost it with 2 levi reloaded. 3 r4w beats the heck out of what i got from rpm at any dose. once again diesel trumps the pack. btw dthc/trib test extreme increased libido, much more than dthc solo did although i got great leaning out/mood enhancement and aggression on dthc.
T-Bone
Banned
Thats funny, better than RPM?. How can you say that?. Just look at the ingredient list, it has more ingredients, including stimulants!. RPM only has a little bit of Caffiene in it. Besides it does have Long Jack in it which is worthless unless dosed correctly. See the following link for dosing Tongkat Ali correctly,
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thebigt
Legend
i compared it to rpm because this is the only spot to get away from the hype. im tired of people saying rpm will cause world peace.
ReaperX
Well-known member
Like the SARM complex is something so special that we need to get worked up over in RPM.
Dollar for dollar R4W is a superior product in terms of pre-workout. Some people may want something 'mild' then RPM is the way to go, but if you are serious about having a pre-workout then R4W is the way to go. Just depends on what you want.
I get tired of people bltching all the time about RPM vs. R4W.
A lot of people talk shlt when they haven't even tried both.
thebigt
Legend
sarm my a$$, there is more and higher quality icariins in dthc than in rpm. as for r4w it has cordyceps which works real well as a pre workout. sulbutiamine which is a proven energy releaser. and my favorite cnidium monnieri which works on the same path way as viagra. not to mention lj1oo, ginseng, and yohimbe damn no wonder i get alibido boost from this stuff. imo, dthc stacked with r4w will yield better results at a more cost efficient price.
ReaperX
Well-known member
3 R4W worked a little too well for me. I feel slightly jittery and whatnot, so usually I dial it in with 1 capsule and 2 if im really, really tired.
I don't mind that RPM is sold on hype and that some people enjoy it which is fine, but with the exception of Diesel Test 2040 every Diesel producth that I've used works very well.
I've found R4W+DTHC+Trib Test to be an excellent stack. Trib Test also has a good amount of iicarins.
I don't mind that RPM is sold on hype and that some people enjoy it which is fine, but with the exception of Diesel Test 2040 every Diesel producth that I've used works very well.
I've found R4W+DTHC+Trib Test to be an excellent stack. Trib Test also has a good amount of iicarins.
thebigt
Legend
stims are my vice in life. work a lot of overtime and rely on them to carry me through. i do a bottle of reset ad every now and then to balance it out. but i got to tell you i did not get very much from rpm. looks like we differ on this one. btw to be fair i got absolutely nada from amp too, even at 6 caps. r4w at 2 caps was nice but 3 for me is where it's at.
thebigt
Legend
why dont you just try it and see for yourself. nows your chance its on sale at np.:thumbsup:
T-Bone
Banned
Too bad I can't. I just started medication for high bp. Maybe in three months after I go back to the doctor. I plan on getting it down low enough by then so I don't have to take medication.
thebigt
Legend
good luck, as we get older have to watch out. ive heard good things about hawthorne berries.
ReaperX
Well-known member
The thing with RPM was @ 5 caps it was tremendously subtle. I could feel the energy but it was quite mild.
After ingesting 3 R4W my first time on an empty stomach (bad idea), it became very evident to me that something was happening 25 min later. I didn't do the whole 'easing' into the dosage, I just slapped back 3 R4W caps.
I've never tried AMP before.
I've kinda been lacking on stims lately. My R4W is gone, so I've been drinking (2) cans of diet mountain dew before I go workout...haha.
After ingesting 3 R4W my first time on an empty stomach (bad idea), it became very evident to me that something was happening 25 min later. I didn't do the whole 'easing' into the dosage, I just slapped back 3 R4W caps.
I've never tried AMP before.
I've kinda been lacking on stims lately. My R4W is gone, so I've been drinking (2) cans of diet mountain dew before I go workout...haha.
thebigt
Legend
there are a few of us who dont respond to amp, but it seems like most like it a lot. yeah, i actually started off with 2 r4w the first time, usually i jump right in at max dose. did'nt take any stims over weekend and threw back 3 r4w before work last night and bam, got hyper-even yelled at my wife. btw i never yell at my wife. if 3 r4w did that to me it's strong stuff! 3 is not for weak at heart.:woohoo:
thebigt
Legend
ok, its been little over a week on r4w. no big gains, no weight loss did'nt pick up a freight train or out run a speeding bullet. but what i did get was wide awake alert energetic and relaxed at the same time. its hard to explain but man i feel great, also i dont feel like im working any harder at work but everyone keeps bragging on how much im getting done. btw just ordered another bottle, lots of stuff i wanted to try but i want to keep this going as long as possible. did i say i feel great, whoora. bigt is a happy camper.:woohoo:
Australian made
Well-known member
Do you feel great? :whip:
thebigt
Legend
you betcha! damn the only thing i worry about is tolerance, i got some reset ad on the way and i dont take on weekends. man, i am 49 and can go a 12 hour shift without feeling dead on this stuff. btw ship i was on in navy had a 7 day port call in perth freemantle. very nice place, like a set of happy day's. one of cleanest places ive ever been.:woohoo:
celc5
Well-known member
I like RPM at 4 caps, although it's nothin special IMO. I'm NOT an experienced stimmer like you fellas though so I have to consider that as well.
Concerning R4W, how long after dosing does it take for the mental alertness to kick in? How long for the stim/energy to kick in?
Btw, I just picked up a random BComplex and I'm starting to hypothesize that variations of the Bcomplex is what makes or breaks preworkout mixes for me. It's so weird that I rave about some stims but just get nothin from others.
Concerning R4W, how long after dosing does it take for the mental alertness to kick in? How long for the stim/energy to kick in?
Btw, I just picked up a random BComplex and I'm starting to hypothesize that variations of the Bcomplex is what makes or breaks preworkout mixes for me. It's so weird that I rave about some stims but just get nothin from others.
slow-mun
Well-known member
It took anywhere from 20-45 minutes for R4W to kick in for me during my log. Its onset seemed dependent on what I had in my stomach.
thebigt
Legend
just try the damn r4w already! beats the hell out of rpm, looks like you shouldnt take more than 2 r4w.
thebigt
Legend
i agree. hey sol, good to hear from you!:hammer:
thebigt
Legend
shiit, why the hell would anyone come to indianapolis that did'nt have to. seriously, i can afford to buy the supps i want, if i find something that works i say so. r4w works. i wasted my money on 3 bottles of rpm before i tried r4w.
nelix
Well-known member
Well you are obviously ready for war
I tried RPM (5 bottles lol) and I enjoyed it, I would like to try R4W but it contains banned imports.
I was just kidding about chuck, just reading his posts gets me motivated.
thebigt
Legend
coming or going? just kidding. let me guess, i would say columbus ohio. hey, you tried r4w?
Chuck Diesel
Are you Diesel?
What are you saying? Look at the ingredients list of what RPM or R4W? Who lied to you and said RPM has "a little" caffeine? Anyway Im not going to make this an RPM/R4W thread, there is a thread on that and u read what people say for yourself:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/79503-rpm-vs-r4w.html
Chuck Diesel
Are you Diesel?
I never saw this thread, maybe I need to stop working so much and check this section more often. What I think people dont understand is I have been formulating products since 1999 and selling them since 2002, I know the industry, I know what works. Everything Im doing right now is a complex formulation that works on many different pathways and 100% results driven. I dont build any product around one "super" ingredient like Icariins or geranamine (or whatever its called). Thats when you get none-responders. I got some new packaging on deck for 2008 but you guys will see, by summer 2008 DTH, Ready4War and NOS ETHER (not forgetting TTE and Coq DIESEL) will finally get its due respect.
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I make products for people training at the "powerlifter, athlete" level. Thats my target market so I never worry about some product selling on pretty glow in the dark pills to out shine my products. They might sell more because GET DIESEL doesnt have the advertising budget and the dist. of the Ergopharm's, Gaspari's and Applied, but when it comes to results and bang for the buck........come on.
T-Bone
Banned
I was just trying to say that the Amount of Long Jack in it will not have any effect, not saying the other ingredients won't do anything but the Long Jack is just a waste in my opinion. The product probally does work well according to the reviews I have seen, but I would much rather see more of the other ingredients and the Long Jack taken out.
Chuck Diesel
Are you Diesel?
Here we go again. There are 2 many "this isnt enough, take this out, do this do that." I would be content with me saying I know how much lj100 is an effective dose. I know how much is needed in R4W. Thats one of the reasons I do prop. blends, people spend 2 much time analyzing sup facts and not enough time listening to the feedback.
radaruckus
Member
can someone compare r4w pills to the powder, because the powder, although it tasted awful, had me wired for hours, it also gave me great mood. I can only find the powder at certain online retailers but if the pills are just as good as the powder than I will pick those up.
thebigt
Legend
thanks reaper, thats on of the few diesel products i have'nt tried. got a bonus from work coming up, big order planned. :cheers:
celc5
Well-known member
Congrats on the bonus BigT! I picked up my current nha stack and some post cycle goodies with my bonus as well :head:
How's the progress coming with furaz?
BigT, does R4W have a "pump" ingredient? I'd actually prefer a stim that does NOT instigate pumps because I cramped pretty badly on my last cycle. I'm just thinking out loud for when I run phera next month.
thebigt
Legend
bring it on, celc. i emphatically approve of r4w. the furzadrol cycle is almost over. im using diesel products almost exclusively for pct-going to throw in some e-form and resveratrol. imho r4w runs circles around the other stuff thats out there. pct will include r4w/dthc/tte and reapers suggestion raw test. after pct my fat burning stack will include leviathan reloaded stacked with r4w-killer fatburning energy stack. 2 levi 2 r4w and i feel like i could lift a ton for reps.
ReaperX
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kabuki
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i'm planning on running nothing but NOS Ether and cycling DTH and TTE 6 weeks on 2 weeks off (TTE starting 1 week after DTH) for the next 6 months. R4W goes without saying.
May toss in some Raw Test on workout days. I'm on my 3rd week now.
celc5
Well-known member
Either Reaper or T, have you guys tried both TTE and TT? Which did you like better and why? I'm not completely sold on Mfx, BAM, or ActivateExtreme for the so called test boost so I'd like to explore alternatives.
thebigt
Legend
i have, and results are trib test best libido boost ever. trib test extreme not much libido enhancement but all the other plus'es of increased test. celc, i would suggest you try dthc and add tte about 10 dats in. btw whatever you do-you have got to try r4w. just started 2nd bottle.:woohoo:
ReaperX
Well-known member
I've used both the old version Trib Test and the new version Trib Test Extreme. Honestly, Trib Test (old version) wasn't really worth using, IMO.
Trib Test Extreme is better and stacks well, but I don't think I'd use it as a stand alone.
The thing with Urtica Dioca aka Stingling Nettle aka -3,4,dianvanill-blah is that you have to use quite a bit to get the effect. (2.5g-3g)
I am finishing up a bottle of Trib Test Extreme I have right now. I have literally like 6 months worth of Diesel Test Hardcore. I probably will just increase the dosage of Diesel Test Hardcore to 8 tablets/ED.
The best stack that I used was:
-Diesel Test 2010 @ 5 tablets
-Activate (old version, not the extreme new one) @ I think it was either 6-8 caps/ED
Personally, if you use some type of urtica dioca/stinging nettle extract, plan on running it at 2.5g-3g/ED. Some people may think that is overkill, but running it any less than that dosage is a waste for me as it does nothing, but running it in high doses like that has awesome effects. I mean seriously if anyone runs urtica dioca at high doses, you'll notice it.
My 2 fav. herbal extracts are tribulus and urtica dioca. I really don't like Long Jack as I do not respond to it well (Diesel Test 2040).