DEA pulls off widespread busts of steroid labs
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Irish Cannon
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If I run anything, it will be legal OTC products such as Epi, H-drol, etc. As for now, it looks like SERMs won't be too easily attainable, leaving most to use just an AI for post cycle therapy. I guess homebrewing is still an option.
Irish Cannon
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I just found this on one of my beloved science supply websites:
"Due to unforeseen circumstances, we've had to close our store. All orders that came in before 5 pm on August 21st have shipped.
We want to thank our customers for their support over the last years. We wish the best for you and your family. Stay Safe."
I'm pretty sure they meant September 21st.
Anyways, I want to cry.
"Due to unforeseen circumstances, we've had to close our store. All orders that came in before 5 pm on August 21st have shipped.
We want to thank our customers for their support over the last years. We wish the best for you and your family. Stay Safe."
I'm pretty sure they meant September 21st.
Anyways, I want to cry.
bigschmidt821
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well the best we can do is Post Cycle Support and perhaps a mega dosed AI...damnit!
Irish Cannon
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I've used an AI alone for one of my designer steroid cycles. It was a PP/Halodrol cycle. PCT was:
ATD : 75/50/50/25
Fenugreek: 1g/2g/3g/4g
DHEA:300/250/200/150/100
CEE: 10g ED
Actually worked quite well.
ATD : 75/50/50/25
Fenugreek: 1g/2g/3g/4g
DHEA:300/250/200/150/100
CEE: 10g ED
Actually worked quite well.
RedwolfWV
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They actually closed about a month ago, although it still might have been for the same reason. I ordered some supplies, then realized I needed something else. Went to order and got that same message. Sucks bigtime.
bigschmidt821
Oldtimer
at the moment i am a proud user of food!
Leggo my Ego
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I'm not concerned with this
Leggo my Ego
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Mmmm mmm good :burg:
Dr Packenwood
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CrzyHrse
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How about cleaning up the communities that are infested with crack houses? How about taking down doctors and pharmacists who are pushing fake scripts for oxycontin? I could name several other things they could spend OUR money on...
bigschmidt821
Oldtimer
prices are dropping all around fone calls from companies tryign to drop their stock people are freaking out all over. AZ had a major bust 4 guys went down
Irish Cannon
Legend
Who's to say that they aren't doing that? It's not like they have a team of ten guys that get together in the morning and say, "Alright, were doing steroids today." That's not how it works. They have different people taking care of different problems.
Irish Cannon
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DUDE! WTF?! They must have JUST changed this. Everything was normal this morning.
Dr Packenwood
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My sentiments exactly. I had just at lunch decided today was the day to buy up as much **** as I could. Well, I didn't get very far. Had to end up buying from a different site, and they didn't have much either.
bigschmidt821
Oldtimer
supreme muscle is where to go for the time being nutraplanets. sister site
Irish Cannon
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I never even knew about that site. I almost wish you didn't say anything. Now I want to buy everything. Prices are awesome.
bigschmidt821
Oldtimer
some low as 12.95
phera bol supposed to be legit
phera bol supposed to be legit
CrzyHrse
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Of course that's not how it works, but for a sting of this magnitude they obviously have put more dollars and manpower into it (steroids) than they are putting into other much more dangerous drugs.
I don't really blame the DEA or other LE for doing their job. I blame politicians, lawmakers and the media.
EasyEJL
Never enough
on what?
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
Empty capsules? That's not a great deal at all.
jomi822
Banned
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
Nah...I didn't see where you indicated the product you bought...so you just said you bought 5, 90 cap bottles.
Lame joke.
Nothing to see here.
jomi822
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whew. i was going to say....someone is going to get teabagged by my death stars if these caps are fake
kwyckemynd00
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I don't. We have the power to bomb any one of those middle easter nations into oblivion before they can even finish ****ting their pants. Our ground presence is useless, IMHO, because 1) the ground troops are not allowed to do what they're trained to do: kill 2) I think history has proven that any sort of large-scale societal change can only really come from the inside over long extended periods of time. When the people prefer a religious theorcracy or dictatorship they're going to get it.
Illegal immigration is a huge issue in the US, IMHO. I believe it is such a huge deal because be letting enormous numbers of people enter the US we allow them to bring their culture with them. As some of you may or may not have noticed people who enter the US illegally tend to stick to "their own kind and their own culture" (if you haven't its because you don't live in an area with high levels of illegals / foreigners). By creating these social divisions conflict is plain and simple inevitable. In addition, a society is a direct reflection of its culture. Our culture is what has allowed us to flourish into what we are today, it isn't simply a function of time or resources (although those things can play a role, look at canada and japan versus mexico for example. both canada and japan got screwed on the natural resources end, especially japan, in comparison to mexico.).
I think the worst thing that could ever come out of Iraq is Al Qaeda gains a training ground and we get bombed and lose a few million people (which is horrible). I believe uncontrolled immigration will ultimately lead to the demise of the USA as the culture that was ultimately responsible for the flourishing of the US is diluted away and replaced with a culture that is 3rd world.
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jmh80
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This investigation was completed with BOTH parties behind this.
Let's blame Bush for shrubbery/spam/swallows/etc - but he's not the sole reason this stuff happened.
Orin Hatch - a democrat - was behind the steroid bill of 2005...
slow-mun
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My personal belief was that PA was made into a patsy for major league baseball. He wasn't facing several decades of hard time and he certainly wasn't making anything that was illegal. He's no saint, but he definitely ain't no BK. IMO, he's just trying to boost Ergopharm sales, at the expense of other companies. Is it right? No..... Should he have even gone to jail? No..... BK went out of his way to assure the general forum going public at bb.com that he didn't snitch before his sentencing. The circumstantial evidence that I proposed seems to contradict that. BK alluded to alot of things before he went to the clink on that forum and it seems that he was definitely "in the know" more than he let on........ When he was initially arrested a DEA spokesperson said that he was the first arrest in an 18 state sting operation. When did the other 17 state arrests occur? My guess is they evolved and occured on 24 Sept 2007, 19 months after they arrested BK. I think he was responsible for alot of the insider info. the DEA had on the Chinese chem houses. That was actually his forte'.
So, it could be said that comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges-
Both are fruit, but they definitely look and taste different.
Dr Packenwood
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Actually Orrin is a Republican in name only. He runs as a R but acts and smells like a D.
Out of all of my senators and congressman, Jim Hansen is the only good one.
Irish Cannon
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to not_big_enuf:
We didn't get to become the most powerful nation by being polycentric.
We didn't get to become the most powerful nation by being polycentric.
jomi822
Banned
mexicans do not pay taxes. they have come to here to take.....
and no, they are not taking jobs "that no one else wants". i know plenty of people that have been driven out of business/lost their jobs because of illegal immigrants. they ARE NOT entitled to my tax money via hospitals/schools and they ARE NOT entitled to minimum wage/working in our capitalist society.
they do not pay taxes. they are not paying their way. these people believe in communism, and are exploiting every aspect of american lifestyle that comes with citizenship. Mexico has more resources per capita than the US, and they have FAILED to exploit it. they cannot take care of themselves, and i refuse to do it for them.
not that it matters, my tax money is being used to fund their illegal presence and communism anyway.
that is all. back to how bad steroids are.
and no, they are not taking jobs "that no one else wants". i know plenty of people that have been driven out of business/lost their jobs because of illegal immigrants. they ARE NOT entitled to my tax money via hospitals/schools and they ARE NOT entitled to minimum wage/working in our capitalist society.
they do not pay taxes. they are not paying their way. these people believe in communism, and are exploiting every aspect of american lifestyle that comes with citizenship. Mexico has more resources per capita than the US, and they have FAILED to exploit it. they cannot take care of themselves, and i refuse to do it for them.
not that it matters, my tax money is being used to fund their illegal presence and communism anyway.
that is all. back to how bad steroids are.
Irish Cannon
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I actually strongly agree with this rant.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jomi822 again.
Leggo my Ego
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Redeemer
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Sorry to blow up the board with this but it is great posting and I feel it deserves additional reading.:cheers:
One other thing, we did not have the kinds of problems in Japan that we are having in Iraq. This is a world governed by the use of agressive force (whether you like that idea or not) and to win against an enemy, you have to completely remove any and all will to fight that may be left in them. The problem is that as this globalization BS takes off, nations begin to lose their sovreignty and ability to act according to their own best interests. The exception seems to be China who gets a free ticket every time especially when it comes to human rights and pollution. I have to stop now as I am getting way off topic.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Just because you are an ax rep now you have to be that harsh towards PA
? I don't think he ever sounded that way, if anything he wanted to try to convice other companies to not release products with deceptive labeling, and not to try and superhype everything, in an attempt for the whole industry to lay low. beyond that, it seemed a lot was about products touted for PCT use that were potentially suppressive.Do you know why GHB is illegal? not becausae of hundreds of deaths, not because of birth defects or card wrecks. One death. A child of a senator in one of the northern states went to a party, had some ghb plus god knows what else, walked outside into the snow and laid down and went to sleep and froze to death. In the US all it takes is the wrong person having a medical issue from something...
So will it be back to no SERMs you think? or will people start finding friendlier doctors?
neoborn
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This is my personal opinion not that of IBE.
Believe me when I say that PA has done alot of good things. I also want you to know he is most definitely not all about helping people out. He strategically attacks companies because of their success and the fact that he cannot make some of the products that they make, because of his being the example of a scapegoat.
They made him into an example.
I am sure he will continue to live with that chip on his shoulder and take digs whenever he can all the while maintaining that he's doing it for the greater good :toofunny:
I would also not be surprised if he turned belly up for the .GOV you have to be hardcore and have balls not to roll when your time is up.
I think he shows his true colors everytime he makes a post..it's easy to see if you have the eyes for it as it's so blatant...
I honestly believe that most will never be happy until all we have left is steroid laden beef and rice to bulk up with. The DEA / FDA / .GOV have an easy task of ripping this community / industry wide open because people like BK / PA / and the ELMariaki gang will do it for them until there's nothing left
Much Love to PA & his 'Crew'
Neoborn
Believe me when I say that PA has done alot of good things. I also want you to know he is most definitely not all about helping people out. He strategically attacks companies because of their success and the fact that he cannot make some of the products that they make, because of his being the example of a scapegoat.
They made him into an example.
I am sure he will continue to live with that chip on his shoulder and take digs whenever he can all the while maintaining that he's doing it for the greater good :toofunny:
I would also not be surprised if he turned belly up for the .GOV you have to be hardcore and have balls not to roll when your time is up.
I think he shows his true colors everytime he makes a post..it's easy to see if you have the eyes for it as it's so blatant...
I honestly believe that most will never be happy until all we have left is steroid laden beef and rice to bulk up with. The DEA / FDA / .GOV have an easy task of ripping this community / industry wide open because people like BK / PA / and the ELMariaki gang will do it for them until there's nothing left
Much Love to PA & his 'Crew'
Neoborn
psychospic
Member
I am disgusted at some of the turns taken in this thread. It started as a thread about the DEA bust and turned into an outlet for some to spew their ethnocentric, jingoist, and downright uninformed view about other issues and our role as a nation in contributing to both sides of those issues. And before assuming that I am offended because I am of hispanic decent, I will let you know that I am not Mexican nor the product of illegal immigration, in fact I am an American by birth, and proud of it. I do however agree with most that this country seems to be taking a dangerous turn towards extremist alarmist views that will only hinder our progress as a free nation. However, we must make sure not to let apathy get the best of us.
As for the DEA bust, it trully angers me to see this happen. I am a Case manager/Counselor for at risk youth and witness how illegal and legal drugs (alcohol, nicotine) are affecting our youth. I know young women who started shooting heroine long befor having sex and thus sold their virginity in order to get high. I've worked with young people who attempt to overdose on a weekly basis in order to "go out with bang". Thanks to increased production in places like Afghanistan, heroine prices have reached an all time low while the purity increases and the drug becomes more and more accessable to the already depressed and disenfranchised youth.
If the DEA wants to make busts that will trully contribute to improving the lives of 17 year olds in this country, they should stand at the corners of our urban cities and watch the open and public drug sales that my students witness everyday.
As for the DEA bust, it trully angers me to see this happen. I am a Case manager/Counselor for at risk youth and witness how illegal and legal drugs (alcohol, nicotine) are affecting our youth. I know young women who started shooting heroine long befor having sex and thus sold their virginity in order to get high. I've worked with young people who attempt to overdose on a weekly basis in order to "go out with bang". Thanks to increased production in places like Afghanistan, heroine prices have reached an all time low while the purity increases and the drug becomes more and more accessable to the already depressed and disenfranchised youth.
If the DEA wants to make busts that will trully contribute to improving the lives of 17 year olds in this country, they should stand at the corners of our urban cities and watch the open and public drug sales that my students witness everyday.
dethklok
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Well put.
BodyWizard
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*WHEN* did Orren Hatch become a Democrat???
jomi822
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your students are not "victims" of drugs. they are victims of themselves. they are in the situation they are in because they do not have what it takes. if they didnt have drugs, they would certainly find something else to do the job. cough medicine, for example. the scum will always find ways to be scum. if they want to go out with a bang, by all means let them. why would you defend someone like that? i get the feeling some people just dont feel like letting people live with the consequences of their decisions.
some people just arent comfortable with the idea that they might not have something deep down that others do. case in point, the ability to fight addiction. i say let the animals wipe themselves out. stop making excuses for their weakness. and stop taking away my freedom because others cant handle themselves like human beings.
EasyEJL
Never enough
I think you are mostly right jomi, but those kids are victims of their ****ty parents more than anything else.
jomi822
Banned
i live on a college campus. there are people here that came from nothing and are here only because of scholarship money and the donations of alumni. they received those scholarships because they WORKED THEIR ASSES OFF IN SCHOOL and made it apparent to someone they were worth investing a couple hundred thousand dollars in.
it is not impossible to pull yourself out of that situation. some people can do it, others cant. the people that cant, belong where they are. its that simple. it annoys the **** out of me when people blame societies problems on drugs, and not the weakness of the individual.
EasyEJL
Never enough
true, but if you look at odds, 90% of successful people come from successful parents, and 90% of dirtbags come from dirtbags...
jomi822
Banned
true, but if you look at odds, 90% of successful people come from successful parents, and 90% of dirtbags come from dirtbags...
maybe their parents were successful because they worked harder than someone on welfare in the slums drinking their lives away with a heroine needle in their arm. your point supports mine even more. you would think these drugged up slum monkeys would kill themselves (by working hard) to get out of their situation for their future childrens' sake.
DR.D
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Good elaboration.
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