I have sifted through hundreds of posts and links tried to interpret chemical structures and read countless speculations. I am still extremely confused.
Can someone do me a favor and fill in the blank here...
Slim Xtreme had _________ in it, and we were not aware when we took it.
Quotes from blue light in regards to the testing of Slim Xtreme:
"Originally Posted by mad_scientist
Well in a surprising show of ethics they do list the ingredients including
"Proline Analog [Phenyl-pyrrolidinyltoluene]"
which I think can safely be assumed to be 2-[1-phenyl-1-(4-methylphenyl)]pyrrolidine which would indeed be a novel analogue (or at least I've never heard of it before)
vecktor:
no the mass spectrum presented is wrong for that,the 4-methyldiphenylmethane fragment would be 14 AMU heavier, it is 2-(1,1,-diphenylmethyl )-Pyrrollidine with a bit of deliberate misnaming on behalf of the vendor."
"I was thinking DPMP (i.e. 2-diphenylmethylpiperidine) as soon as reading the symptoms you described, so the slightly more obscure diphenylmethylpyrrolidine makes perfect sense. We never tested this one but it is certainly available, just figured it would be like DPMP but not so good, sounds like the duration may be a bit shorter though which would be a plus.
DPMP doesn't spoil your appetite that much usually so there is probably something else in there producing the anorectic effect, or DPMPy is a stronger anorectic, or bodybuilders expecting anorectic effects feel the effects they expect...who knows.
Also while it may not be the case this time, designer analogues of modafinil are something I've been expecting to turn up for some time..."
"So the GC indicates something with a higher melting point/boiling point than caffeine, assuming it's caffeine anhydrous whose MP is 228°C. The retention time is about 7% greater than caffeine, so if you're scaling linearly (not really great science) that puts our compound at around 245°C for the melting point, which is slightly lower than that of the hydrochloric salt of desoxypipradrol (2-(diphenylmethyl)piperidine; ~250°C). So mostly guessing here from the trace vecktor is correct and the compound is 2-(diphenylmethyl)pyrollidine, and from the AUC it's in comparatively larger amounts to caffeine. I'm guessing it's not nearly as potent as desoxypipradrol."
"diphenylmethyl pyrrolidine is the pyrrolidine analog of desoxypiradrol. and if it is anything like desoxypipradrol it is a very long lasting stimulant.
it is used industrially for resolving chiral things, CAS 119237-64-8 it has other names such as diphenyl-2-pyrrolidinyl-meth
ane
the related diphenyl-2-pyrrolidinyl-meth
anol has been associated with cardiovascular toxicity, it differs by an OH group"
"^ the substance was identified from a posted Mass spectrum. that mass spectrum shows the molecule contains the diphenyl methyl group also known as the benzhydryl group there is no doubt about that. diagnostic ions are M/z 70 for substituted pyrroles C4H8N+ and 165 for diphenyl methane C13H9+
So if the mass spectrum posted here was obtained from GC-MS of a genuine sample, then Slim xtreme contains either 2-(diphenylmethyl) pyrrolidine or 3-diphenylmethyl pyrollidine.
case closed. no further debate required."
So from the information that I have gathered on the proline analog (phenyl-pyrrolidinyltoluene) it is not the Diphenylprolinol (D2PM), aka diphenyl-2-pyrrolidinyl-methanol which is cardiotoxic unlike the other chemical analogs.