Which one??
SS or ***chem for the vendor??
Which is more proven?? Been doing lots of research lately:wink1:
SS or ***chem for the vendor??
Which is more proven?? Been doing lots of research lately:wink1:
You must mean no vision sides on Osta? S4 has many reports of vision sides - though not horrendous (yet some still troubling).from all the stuff ive read no one has really ran into vison issues with s4. I am also going to run DAA (5 on, 2off) and 1 cap of erase too. So im not too worried about the estrogen sides.
For your first cycle, I would go with OSTA. SARMSSEARCH is the absolute only supplier I would go through. I was interested in SARMS for a very long time, but always do a LOT of reading and absorbing before deciding to take the plunge, and I can't imagine HOW anyone could be disappointed with SARMSSEARCH. I actually like how they only sell SARMS, so they can solely concentrate on quality and shipping speed.Ostarine. It's been shown to be less suppressive and has none of the ocular issues.
For your first cycle, I would go with OSTA. SARMSSEARCH is the absolute only supplier I would go through. I was interested in SARMS for a very long time, but always do a LOT of reading and absorbing before deciding to take the plunge, and I can't imagine HOW anyone could be disappointed with SARMSSEARCH. I actually like how they only sell SARMS, so they can solely concentrate on quality and shipping speed.
Oh, I think I got that PM too. I just don't have any experience with them, so can't say either way.that is the plan but I got a PM on NTBM from nate with another supplier so just wanted to throw it out there.
Based on what's been seen, I wouldn't.8wks is the longest Ive seen people run a SARM, what do you guys think??
Would any of you guys run one 10wks or 12??
Hmm .. not sure if the logs I read were on AM or someplace else - but there are many reports of vision sides with S4 ... especially at the tail end of a cycle and using higher dosages. One log I read the guy said when he drove into a tunnel - there were a few seconds of blindness followed by the same thing when he exited them.No. S4. I've read all the logs on AM
I own SARMSSEARCH, and my other screen names are Russian Star, and many people also know me by my other name, Nathan Chase.so Outstanding, your recommendation for Sarmssearch has nothing to do with the fact that you're a NTBM rep, and your hero russianstar happens to be affiliated with both NTBM and Sarmsseach?
just a weird coincidence i guess.
The great thing about SARMS (and there is a new one in the pipeline now I just read about) isn't that they replace AAS usage or their practical utility in recreation/cosmetic purposes to gain strength and live a more rewarding and fulfilling life - I believe that they create a flawless bridge, finally, that can be used to bring the usual divide between cycles much close to achieving constant anabolism and muscle retention.For the money, IMO for bulk PH/AAS is a better deal, but Sarms are better served during PCT or a cut as a break from the PH/AAS. Trying to hang on to that muscle between bulk cycles is where a Sarm is useful. There have been some theories that sarms may loss effectiveness after a period of time, I have no idea if it is true, but if it proves to be true, we may also have to add on a 3rd step to refresh from the Sarm. I am considering alternating Ostarine and Clen/Albut between bulking cycles. At least until we know more...
lolI own SARMSSEARCH, and my other screen names are Russian Star, and many people also know me by my other name, Nathan Chase.
Also, every other product I've ever repped or suggested over the years on this and countless other forums, I also own and receive direct checks in the mail from. Oh, I also own the Recompadrol Formula, the rights to LCLT manufacturing, Science Defined Nutrition, VPX, and Gaspari Nutrition's Size-On Pre Contest.
Wow, it felt so good to get that off my chest. I'm a new man!!!!
For reals? :rofl:I own SARMSSEARCH, and my other screen names are Russian Star, and many people also know me by my other name, Nathan Chase.
Also, every other product I've ever repped or suggested over the years on this and countless other forums, I also own and receive direct checks in the mail from. Oh, I also own the Recompadrol Formula, the rights to LCLT manufacturing, Science Defined Nutrition, VPX, and Gaspari Nutrition's Size-On Pre Contest.
Wow, it felt so good to get that off my chest. I'm a new man!!!!
I think it was far past time to just be open and honest with everyone... I can't burden the weight of the lies anymore (OH THE LIES)! In fact, while I'm at it, I also own the patent and licensing for all the EcdyMorph distribution in North America.For reals? :rofl:
lol :clap2:I am confused. The conspiracy you are referring to was just made up out of thin air by YOU. I never implied that you were russianstar or nate, or whomever.
All i mentioned is that russianstar ( a known affiliate of mrsupps/NTBM ) claims he isnt affiliated with SS, but issues a copyrighted document written by him that says property of SS. Then we have the NTBM squad pimping SS.
You tried to make it sound CRAZY, but the facts remain. Why would someone so obviously biased be a reputable source for product recommendations? If anything, now I just think you're a liar, with a terrible sense of humor - instead of just another biased rep.
Ya I agree. I've never used SS and have NEVER pimped them. :slap:lol :clap2:
Outstanding who is a NTBM rep has actually used SS so he recommends it.
Unrealmachine (taking time off the forums) who is another NTBM rep does not use SS but another place AND logged it the other places stuff. OMGZ.
Unreal told me about the place he uses and I (a NTBM rep) will probably use them when I want OSTA and they are not even SS. OMGZ.
Please get your facts straight before making crazy conspiracy theories as to why someone is recommending SS. Some of our reps use SS like the many other members of this board who buy research chems and some of us reps do not use them.
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what facts do i need to get straight?lol :clap2:
Outstanding who is a NTBM rep has actually used SS so he recommends it.
Unrealmachine (taking time off the forums) who is another NTBM rep does not use SS but another place AND logged it the other places stuff. OMGZ.
Unreal told me about the place he uses and I (a NTBM rep) will probably use them when I want OSTA and they are not even SS. OMGZ.
Please get your facts straight before making crazy conspiracy theories as to why someone is recommending SS. Some of our reps use SS like the many other members of this board who buy research chems and some of us reps do not use them.
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I agree with Beast. I have some Ostarine that I bought from the same place Unreal did and it was the best deal at the time.Ya I agree. I've never used SS and have NEVER pimped them. :slap:
I use a company that's alot cheaper and great quality. Unreal can vouch for them. BTW they have a killer pre-sale on S4
Apparently you are affiliated with them :chairfall:Ya I agree. I've never used SS and have NEVER pimped them. :slap:
Outstanding recommending SS because he has used them :duh:.
So where is this pimping of SS at?
This guys right.... :grouphug:Seeing my weight warrior buddies fighting with each other make Honda cry.
ok...big swoll, juiced up man-hug time...everyone gather around..:grouphug::heart:This guys right.... :grouphug:
Rick, is that a post-workout banana for an insulin spike in your pocket? or are you just happy to see me? :smileysex5:ok...big swoll, juiced up man-hug time...everyone gather around..:grouphug::heart:
Rick, is that a post-workout banana for an insulin spike in your pocket? or are you just happy to see me? :smileysex5:
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Why do you say this?Sarms Search has the highest quality SARMs on the market.
Reps !Hey all,
Just thought it was worth stopping back in and mentioning, without going into too much eye-glazing-over detail, that I simply will not endorse a product I don't believe works. Period. End of story.
I rep for NTBM yes, but also recently I made a very candid and respectful point not to promote a certain product because I haven't personally tried it - I made this decision publicly and in front of all the other reps and senior leaders of the forums. I, as a person, am much more than a bodybuilder - I am a grown man with a very stringent set of beliefs and morals, and none of those are going to be eroded and selectively chipped away at, all because I receive some free products every month.
Do I religiously use and depend upon Need 2 Slin, Need 2 Guard, and go absolutely CRAZY over Better Protein Bars all from NTBM? Yes, I do. Do I also use MANY other products from many other companies I've also outlined many times over here on Anabolic Minds, in my personal journal, and elsewhere on the Internet? Every day!
That being said, it's sad that my/our connections and motivations behind what we type and claim comes into question so often as a whole - BUT, I can't say I don't see where other members are coming from with all the sketchy operations that go on here.
So, Soon to be Beast, is just trying to embark on a little journey of understanding and trying to uncloud the stage of knowledge, so that he can navigate his choices as a consumer better. I was sarcastic earlier, because I thought it was funny (and still do) but by no means to I dismiss the fact when someone is looking at spending $150 on a product, they want solid and reliable advice from those of us who have used said product.
So, OSTA from SARMSSEARCH does work, and it is working very well. It took a full three weeks to become apparent as far as undeniable fat loss and muscle fullness effects, and I understand $5 a serving is something previously unprecedented; but there have been literally zero side effects encountered, and I believe it is a worthy additive to anyone's program looking to retain muscle while losing fat-mass. So, in essence I would describe SARMS as an inducer of the often sought favorable body composition change.