Primeval Super LGD log

[Jm88888]

No. But I had some symptoms 5 days after stopping and they have all disappeared. I decided against taking another hormone drug, unless it was necessary. I wasn't gonna just do it to do it.

 

[Jm88888]

Feel free to follow along and see how it goes...

 

[CEG85]

Great log!
Im currently taking super LGD and thinking about going with 5mg for the full 8 weeks.
You think 5mg would be enough, or would you recommend bumping it up to 10mg mid cycle?
Thanks

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Feel free to follow along and see how it goes...

Yeah cool, I dont mean to sound judgmental or pious, just trying to understand your logic (you dont want to SERM, but would add test booster on cycle, etc)

 

[Jm88888]

Test booster as in a natural item... D-aspartic acid... It's done wonders... Right after I stopped lgd I had "symptoms of low t" no wood at all, this was actually beginning to occur when I increased dose to 10 mg. but anyway, the t boost I was taking took a couple days and then bang. Wood and the strength came back (only lost a bit it might even have not been related) but now off it over a week, no SERM and lifts continue to go up... Just research LGD effect of Luetenizing hormone LH. It has a minimal impact on that, unlike steroids which have a huge effect. Higher levels if LH help you t come back quicker. All Clomid does is increase the amount of LH you have in your body, which will help you come back quicker.... But to me I was not in favor of illegally buying a drug online... So opted to take my chances without it. I'm satisfied... But I am not an expert and make no recommendations... Do what you feel is good for you.

 

[Jm88888]

I am being brutally honest in this log... So we can all see what happens... If my strength drops you'll know. If I have any sides at all or positive effects you will know.

 

[CEG85]

Did you see any big difference going from 5mg to 10mg in terms of strength?

 

[Jm88888]

Was hard to say.... Because I was doing high volume.... Which I think was a mistake for me... But I didn't notice a big difference as far as good effects. Side effects seemed to be more pronounced.

 

[Jm88888]

BEGINNING PCT FINAFLEX REVOLUTION PCT
Day 50
(Week 8 Day 1)
Day 40 was last day of lgd. I have now started on Revolution PCT by Finaflex. Took 2 capsules before bed.

Weight
186.4

Diet
3122 calories
188 grams protein
300 grams carbs
132 grams fat



Lifts
Squat ramped to 315 for 1 285 3x5
Bench ramped to 226 for 1
199x5 for 2 sets, 199x4 for 1 set
Deadlift
Ramped to 375 for 1. 330 3x5
All 3x5 antagonist
Seated overhead bb press 95lbs with DB ROW 82lbs
Bb curl 95 lbs with bb skull crusher 66lbs




Effects/side effects

 

[Jm88888]

BEGINNING PCT FINAFLEX REVOLUTION PCT
Day 51
(Week 8 Day 2)
Day 40 was last day of lgd. I have now started on Revolution PCT by Finaflex. Took 2 capsules before bed.

Weight
185

Diet
3190 calories
182 grams protein
298 grams carbs
144 grams fat



Lifts
Off




Effects/side effects

 

[Jm88888]

BEGINNING PCT FINAFLEX REVOLUTION PCT
Day 52
(Week 8 Day 3)
Day 40 was last day of lgd. I have now started on Revolution PCT by Finaflex. Took 2 capsules before bed.

Weight
186

Diet
3403 calories
213 grams protein
258 grams carbs
131 grams fat



Lifts
Squats
255 3x8
Bench 170 3x8
DL 255 3x8

Antagonist
Overhead press seated 88 3x8
SA DB row 78 3x8
BB curl 77 3x8
Skull crusher 57 3x8




Effects/side effects

 

[Jm88888]

BEGINNING PCT FINAFLEX REVOLUTION PCT
Day 53
(Week 8 Day 4)
Day 40 was last day of lgd. I have now started on Revolution PCT by Finaflex. Took 2 capsules before bed.

Weight
186

Diet
3895 +calories (Christmas Eve party probably went over this)
151 grams protein
334 grams carbs
146 grams fat



Lifts
Off



Effects/side effects

 

[Jm88888]

BEGINNING PCT FINAFLEX REVOLUTION PCT
Day 54
(Week 8 Day 5)
Day 40 was last day of lgd. I have now started on Revolution PCT by Finaflex. Took 2 capsules before bed. DID NOT TAKE PCT

Weight
190

Diet
3406 calories
208 grams protein
288 grams carbs
138 grams fat



Lifts
Squat
190lbs 2x15
Bench
125lbs 2x15
DL
190lbs 2x15

Antagonist
Seated OHP
66lbs 2x15
SA DB row
61 lbs 2x15
BB curl
62lbs 2x15
Skull crusher
50lbs 2x15


Effects/side effects

 

[Jm88888]

BEGINNING PCT FINAFLEX REVOLUTION PCT
Day 55
(Week 8 Day 6)
Day 40 was last day of lgd. I have now started on Revolution PCT by Finaflex. Took 2 capsules before bed.

Weight
190

Diet
3072 calories
182 grams protein
270 grams carbs
143 grams fat



Lifts
Off


Effects/side effects

 

[Jm88888]

BEGINNING PCT FINAFLEX REVOLUTION PCT
Day 56
(Week 8 Day 7)
Day 40 was last day of lgd. I have now started on Revolution PCT by Finaflex. Took 2 capsules before bed.

Weight
188

Diet
3189 calories
226 grams protein
249 grams carbs
144 grams fat



Lifts
Off


Effects/side effects

 

[Jm88888]

BEGINNING PCT FINAFLEX REVOLUTION PCT
Day 57
(Week 9 Day 1)
Day 40 was last day of lgd. I have now started on Revolution PCT by Finaflex. Took 2 capsules before bed.

Weight
188

Diet
3153 calories
177 grams protein
282 grams carbs
146 grams fat



Lifts
Squat 250 4 sets of 5 and 1 set of 7
Romanian DL 185 2 sets of 5 1 sets of 7
DB lunge 61 3 sets of 6
Hip thrust 135 3 sets of 6
Seated calf raise 185 3 sets of 6
Standing calf raise 225 3 sets of 8


Effects/side effects

 

[jantios]

Did you keep any of your gains? How would you rate how your PCT is going at the moment?

 

[Jm88888]

Yes. I didn't lose any strength. I didn't lose any weight at all...

 

[Jm88888]

I think the anti estrogen in the PCT is not something I need... I think it's lowering my estrogen too much, joints feel a bit dry after today's workout... Going to up the oils before bed. See if that does anything.

 

[jantios]

Not losing Weight and Strenght sounds good! Any acne though?

 

[Jm88888]

I had a bit right after stopping... Not bad tho.

 

[Jm88888]

Ended PCT FINAFLEX REVOLUTION PCT
Day 58
(Week 9 Day 2)
Now I am not on the PCT or LGD.

Weight
186.4

Diet
3210 calories
226 grams protein
281 grams carbs
132 grams fat



Lifts
Bench 185 4 sets of 5 and 1 set of 6
OHP 85 2 sets of 5 1 sets of 10
Skull crusher 67 3 sets of 6
Incline bench 135 3 sets of 6
Side lateral raise 16 each 3 sets of 8
Kickback 16 3 sets of 8
Time: 57 minutes


Effects/side effects
Some soreness in elbows when benching.

 

[Jm88888]

I have been doing more research, after ending the lgd. I know believe that Clomid is a very good good idea after using lgd. Some interesting graphs and tables... However I will say I still don't believe it's necessary as numbers come back to baseline after the cycle. On next cycle Clomid will be used in PCT.

 

[Jm88888]

Ended PCT FINAFLEX REVOLUTION PCT
Day 59
(Week 9 Day 3)
Now I am not on the PCT or LGD.

Weight
185.8

Diet
3171 calories
208 grams protein
279 grams carbs
138 grams fat



Lifts
DL 300 4 sets of 5 and 1 set of 6
Weighted chin 35 2 sets of 5 1 sets of 6
BB Row 135 3 sets of 7
Hammer curl 31 each arm 3 sets of 6
Rear delt fly 16 each 3 sets of 6
SA DB Row 75 each arm 3 sets of 8
Time: 64 minutes


Effects/side effects

 

[Jm88888]

Noticeable water retention after ending arimistane.

 

[Jm88888]

Ended PCT FINAFLEX REVOLUTION PCT
Day 60
(Week 9 Day 4)
Now I am not on the PCT or LGD.

Weight
187.2
(Weight is going up pretty quick after ending the revolution pct.)

Diet (New Years eve....)
3505 calories
185 grams protein
319 grams carbs
122 grams fat



Lifts
Front Squat 125 5 sets of 8 and 1 set of 11
SLDL 95 2 sets of 10 1 sets of 11
Split squat 95 3 sets of 10
GHR Body Weight, assistance bands (medium assistance) arm 3 sets of 10. (Did in power rack with resistance bands over top, kneeling on bench ankles under loaded barbell)
Seated calf raise 185 each 3 sets of 10
Standing calf raise 205 3 sets of 10
Time: 64 minutes


Effects/side effects
-after I started the pct revolution I immediately had boosted libido and mood. But last 2 weeks that wasn't case. after stopping libido is fully back and mood is fully back.
-however where I was not gaming any weight in before on PCt revolution, (regardless of calories almost) now off it I am gaining it quick. I do feel fuller but also notice the ab area is much less visible... Top third disappearing a bit. But muscles do feel fuller.

 

[Jm88888]

I'm ending the log right here... Hope it was of some help to others...

 

[CEG85]

Do you feel like the finaflex had a big impact on your recovery?

 

[Jm88888]

I feel like the first week on it, definitely helped to an extent... But then in the last 2 weeks of it (I only did 3 weeks on it) I noticed that I was regressing in mood and libido area... So I stopped taking it. Based on symptoms my theory was that it helped bring my test up, but the arimistane lowered my estrogen too much... My mood was off libido was off. But it was drying me out pretty good even with moderate carb. Off of it everything feels back to normal maybe even a little better... I am going to do this again... In about a month or so... I am going to add Clomid after next cycle and I may use the Finaflex after 1st week of Clomid. But yes... It did have very noticeable effects

 

[Jm88888]

The main ingredients in this are D-aspartic acid (t booster) and arimistane for anti estrogen. You can probably fool around with this stuff separately instead of bundling....

 

[Lewisb]

I am running the lgd with the finaflex tbooster. I'm impressed that you only had to run the finaflex pct and you felt good after. Everything I have read suggest clomid I'm impressed you didn't need to.

 

[Jm88888]

I didn't "need" it... But next time I'm using it... Without I feel fully back to normal and its only 3 weeks after ending lgd. I like to play around and see how things work, instead of blindly just diving into something. Read the study that was done: http://m.biomedgerontology.oxfordjournals.org/content/68/1/87.long?view=long&pmid=22459616

Pay attention to graphs very interesting stuff here. Also search for Clomid on male studies. Interesting stuff going on there too... They are studying effects of using this on males with hypo-gonadism...

 

[Lewisb]

You ran it at the recommended doese of 10mg didn't you I can't remember exactly but I thought you started with 5 went to 10 and then back to 5.

 

[Jm88888]

Yes. Started at 5, went to 10 in 3rd week.

 

[UncleSarm]

Thanks for you experimentation and logging it. This is an awesome post. On your next LGD cycle (I assume there will be another one) will you still go the OTC way or the Nolva/Clomid?
Also, did you do before/after bloods to compare values?

 

[Jm88888]

Clomid. I got blood work done a couple months prior to starting. Total test was 650+ don't remember exactly... But never got it done post. But based on just feeling, I felt the ups and downs of the hormones. The OTC stuff did work quite well, but I have seen some interesting studies on Clomid on men, will give that try next time. And I will log it just like this one when I do.

 

[Jm88888]

I ended up gaining about 6 lbs and the waist really has not changed...