Primeval Super LGD log

[Jm88888]

Day 18
(Week 3 day 4)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
185.6

Diet
3057 calories
185 grams protein
434 grams carbs
72 grams fat

Effects
-strong pumps
-weight gain has come to a halt. 3000 calories is not gaining me weight over the past week. Going to up it a bit.

 

[Killcure666]

How lean has the mass you've gained been? Are you noticing any fat loss

 

[Jm88888]

Day 19
(Week 3 day 5)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
187

Diet
3234 calories
201 grams protein
439 grams carbs
84 grams fat

 

[Jm88888]

I started taking it at 182 I'm now around 187. I feel like my abs look similar... But they have noticeably lost definition. Can really see them, just the over outline of where they are. More concerned with gaining size right now though. And I'm sure there is some water in play here. I'm not taking anti estrogen. I'm considering starting that... I would imagine that would have an impact on the subcutaneous water...

 

[TheGoodLife35]

Day 18
(Week 3 day 4)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
185.6

Diet
3057 calories
185 grams protein
434 grams carbs
72 grams fat

Effects
-strong pumps
-weight gain has come to a halt. 3000 calories is not gaining me weight over the past week. Going to up it a bit.

Maybe I missed it but how are you counting your micros? I seen a app for iPhones I might get because I am dieting and still gaining weight but I have a tendency to overeat haha

 

[Jm88888]

My fitness pal

 

[TheGoodLife35]

My fitness pal

Just downloaded it and my LGD should be arriving today.

Are you taking any liver supplements? From all my reading LGD shuts you down and will stir your liver values. I get my blood tested about once a month so I am on TUDCA and I have UDCA on the way.

 

[Jm88888]

I'm not taking liver protection. But that's me. Also I have not noticed any shutdown. I've noticed increase libido while taking this. But again that's me...

 

[Jm88888]

Day 20
(Week 3 day 6)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
187

Diet
2955 calories
162 grams protein
331 grams carbs
117 grams fat

 

[TheGoodLife35]

First thank you for introducing me to the app MFP, second why so high in carbs? I am curious and I have my carbs around 100g or less per day, it's hard but I am noticing great results from the change.

 

[Jm88888]

There are a lot of studies that show that your body can only process .8 to 1.0 grams per pound of body of protein; for muscle synthesis. As far as fat goes you want to hit your minimum .4 grams per pound... For hormonal reasons... The rest of cals would be carbs...

 

[Jm88888]

Day 21
(Week 3 day 7)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
187.1

Diet
3202 calories
170 grams protein
426 grams carbs
96 grams fat

 

[TheGoodLife35]

There are a lot of studies that show that your body can only process .8 to 1.0 grams per pound of body of protein; for muscle synthesis. As far as fat goes you want to hit your minimum .4 grams per pound... For hormonal reasons... The rest of cals would be carbs...

I was under the impression it's only so much your body can take in per sitting and that's why you should spread your meals up throughout the day.

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/health-fitness/healthy-eating/know-your-nutrients/how-much-protein-can-the-body-absorb?page=all

Having your extra calls from protein sources I feel is a lot better in the long run then getting them from carbs. Anyway I just wanted to ask and talk about it since I know your carbs are high.

 

[Jm88888]

I'd say do what works for you. But there a lot of studies on myths of protein needed. Google it. Anything over 1 gram (in non steroid users) is just going to waste.

 

[Jm88888]

Day 22
(Week 4 day 1)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
188.4

Diet
4014 calories
199 grams protein
383 grams carbs
129 grams fat

 

[TheGoodLife35]

I'd say do what works for you. But there a lot of studies on myths of protein needed. Google it. Anything over 1 gram (in non steroid users) is just going to waste.

I meant to add that part in, I would think taking sarms or steroids would help us be able to intake more protein.

Did you read in the article that although even if not all going to your muscles protein still has more benefits/nutrition to other organs compared to carbs.

 

[Jm88888]

No. Just that to build muscle you need carbs. And what happens is that you eat all these calories in protein and your body can only use up to 1 gram per pound. So you are taking in calories that can't help you... Instead of taking in carbs that can help you... I'm no expert... If you are having the success you would like stat with it. If not open your mind to different ideas... If you are looking to gain, I would say carbs are very important. From what I've read.

 

[Jm88888]

And yes. SARMS prob change that fact... A bit. I'm going to probably dial the carbs back a touch, and increase protein a bit. But not more than 1.25 grams a pound.

 

[TheGoodLife35]

This is a good read and touches on why we need carbs to grow, an alternative and combining the two. My problem is I gain weight fast on carbs so I avoid them but to each his own.

http://anabolicminds.com/?p=19538

 

[Jm88888]

Yes. Agreed.

 

[Jm88888]

Good luck with the LGD

 

[TheGoodLife35]

Are you finding yourself eating more then usual? I have always had a tendency to over eat and since being on cycle I really have to make myself stop eating so I won't gain too much weight.

I'm curious what's a sample of your diet? I am wondering what are you eating to net that many carbs. I am thinking about eating a whole chicken per day for lunch starting around week three with bulk leucine.

 

[Jm88888]

Day 23
(Week 4 day 2)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
189.4

Diet
3766 calories
235 grams protein
492 grams carbs
95 grams fat

 

[Jm88888]

Day 24
(Week 4 day 3)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
190.4

Diet
2566 calories
197 grams protein
311 grams carbs
65 grams fat

 

[Jm88888]

I'm eating when I'm hungry. Trying to keep it around 3200. With about 200 G protein. And make sure that I'm getting enough fat. Then carbs. I don't care about the types. Macro is macro to me.

 

[Jm88888]

Day 25
(Week 4 day 4)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
190.2

Diet
3147 calories
198 grams protein
348 grams carbs
103 grams fat

Ended phase 1 of German Volume training. (Ended week early). Will be starting a four week cycle of full body routine 3 days per week. 4 sets of eight reps. Beginning Friday.

 

[Jm88888]

Day 26
(Week 4 day 5)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
191.4

Diet
3621 calories
208 grams protein
390 grams carbs
142 grams fat

Upper lower split 4x8 started today. A/B/off/A/B/off/A:
B/A/off/B/A/off

Effects
Noticing some changes in the libido area, noticed a little hair shedding. From what I've read this around the time this possibly begins... Thinking 15mg per day for 4 weeks might be a better option. One more week of 10mg then down to 5mg for the last week.

 

[Jm88888]

Day 27
(Week 4 day 6)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
191.4

Diet
3184 calories
229 grams protein
432 grams carbs
59 grams fat

 

[SChasEE]

Noticing any strength gains since the start?

 

[Jm88888]

Was doing German volume training... So not really. But did add 10 pounds to squat and bench for 10 sets of 10. But now I'm starting a different program. 2 days of strength up and lower, then 2 days of muscle growth upper lower. I will begin reporting on these numbers tomorrow.

 

[Jm88888]

I got noticeably bigger. More calories plus LGD. Some fat. But def got bigger.

 

[Jm88888]

Day 28
(Week 4 day 7)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
191.4

Diet
3065 calories
229 grams protein
309 grams carbs
96 grams fat

 

[DonnieM]

Whats your idea on changing your workout routine all the time? Just curious

 

[Jm88888]

I basically was doing one same thing for about 12 months. I only did the German volume training. That's a 6 week 10x10. Then you go to something else. So now I am doing something else. I've really only done a couple different programs in the last 12 months.

 

[Jm88888]

The one was a deadlift program. I wanted to increase my DL max. So I did a 12 week program to do that.

 

[Jm88888]

Day 29
(Week 5 day 1)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
190.6

Diet
2754 calories
230 grams protein
341 grams carbs
49 grams fat

 

[wazzuS]

Great log, please keep it going. My Super LGD is arriving tomorrow.

As of day 29 your 8+ lbs up. Very cool. How solid are you feeling? As of now do you think it's good weight?

Do you feel like you needed to increase from 5mgs to 10? I'm planning to stick to 5mg for the 8 weeks.

Are you taking anything in addition with LGD? This is also my first cycle on anything. I also got Iron Cycle - Cycle Support to take during my 8 week cycle. Not sure if needed but didn't think it would hurt. I plan to use Iron Circle -PCT for PCT but not sure if it's enough.

 

[Jm88888]

Nothing else. I was recommended by many to Pct with clomid. I feel my T is shutting down a bit around week 4

 

[Jm88888]

Also needed to reassess diet... Everything was ok when I was doing the super high volume... But now that I'm not, im not burning as many cals

 

[jantios]

Interesting log so far. Since I'm new to this forum, could anyone explain to me how to follow this thread? Thanks!

 

[Jm88888]

On app click dots in upper right and then select subscribe

 

[GQNemesis]

some nice weight gainz .. will follow along from here on, good luck.

 

[Jm88888]

Day 30
(Week 5 day 2)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
190.4

Diet
2131 calories
176 grams protein
220 grams carbs
69 grams fat

 

[wazzuS]

Hey JM88888,

Any idea on what your body fat was when you started and now? I know you mentioned top 1/3 of abs were showing when you started. Looks like you are currently 8lbs up. I am very interested in knowing how much is muscle vs fat.

I just got my Primeval Super LGD yesterday. Plan to start no later than this Monday.

 

[Jm88888]

Hard time measuring with the calipers... I think I was probably between 15% and 20%. Id say the weight was prob half muscle half fat... Nothing great. But my diet was **** the whole. Ice cream, goldfish Graham's, Burger King. Bad. Lol
Everything was going great in fat department until thanksgiving. (Which coincided with end of German volume. I'm thinking the workout was extreme enough metabolically that I was not really putting fat on tip it was over plus thanksgiving. Then I got a little bloat in belly. I'm cleaning up diet and will be doing lean gains style recomp from here. Ended phase 1 of German volume training, and now am doing 10 sets of 3 of upper on Mondays, and lower on Wednesday. Then Friday and Saturday will be upper and lower muscle growth, 5 sets of 10 and 4 sets of 6 for aux. can't wait to see of strength shoots up at the end of this cycle, since I haven't had a chance to really measure that yet. The muscle pumps are amazing on 10x10 GVT + the LGD.

 

[Jm88888]

Day 31
(Week 5 day 3)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
188.4

Diet
2659 calories
186 grams protein
295 grams carbs
88 grams fat

Lifts

Squats
Bar x5, 95x5, 135x5, 185x5, 225x5, 275x3 for 10 sets
(2 min rest between work sets)

Deadlifts
135x5, 185x5, 225x5, 315x3 for 10 sets

Effects/side effects

 

[Jm88888]

Day 32
(Week 5 day 4)
Took one capsule with breakfast.
Took one capsule at 3pm

Weight
186.4

Diet
2561 calories
179 grams protein
286 grams carbs
87 grams fat


Lifts
Off day

Effects/side effects

 

[dave39]

What you noticing so far man? Packing on some quality mass or is it a sugar pill?

 

[Jm88888]

It's not dramatic.

 

[dave39]

It's not dramatic.

I feel the same about Ostarine, not worth the hormonal disturbance probably