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Unreal could U please give me sample of your keto diet? meats, what do u eat, how many meals, etc.
This probably doesn't count but SD-1 is what I'm using for my 1 day a week experiment. The pills are kind of large compared to original superdrol pills I've seen however even with only 10mg I can tell there is much more going on than placebo effect. There is no doubt in my mind it is legit. I've used 30mg centered around the workout and felt as if I was going to explode lol.x2 on finding someone thats used SD-1!!!!
Hard to find anyone that can vouch for it I've been searching for days trying to find out about Performance Design. They do have the 3rd party lab tests to confirm authenticity at the very least but who knows because all of CEL's products were lab tested...
1)eggs
2) protein shake/nuts
3) meat
4) protein shake/nuts
5) meat
6) cottage cheese, more protein powder, some nuts
meat = chicken/turkey/fish/beef. Sometimes i do a stir fry with vegetables and so there's some broccoli entering into the diet. but generally not much carbs. Sometimes more nuts with the meat. Sometimes peanut butter to increase the fat % of the meal if i dont think the meat is fatty enough. I usually end up with couple spoons of PB over a keto day
I love meat though, esp. fatty meat like ground beef and steak, salmon is excellent too
:irked: This sucks. I bought 2 bottles of CEL M-Drol a couple months ago.i guess I should go longer to appease naysayers although after 240mg of Mdrol in less than a week I should damn well be feeling something... this stuff is bull****...
edit: lol missed the postdo you watch your sodium intake as well?
no lethargy, libido is normal, appetite normal... no its all normal.Damn! 240 mg's and nothing? No lethargy, no loss of libido, nothing?
alright the best I can do is 18 days as I started this with 73 pills left in the bottle because I had tried this bottle before (17 pills over 7 days, thought it was bunk then)run it 3 weeks! this sucks, nothing so far
which other batch do yo have? I wonder if its the same I got!!!Also i've got some Mdrol from another batch... I can try that as well, that batch should work.
112607which other batch do yo have? I wonder if its the same I got!!!
I really wish you could get some blood work done once this is over just to have it. I'd love to know where your test levels are (or aren't) and what else is going on.alright the best I can do is 18 days as I started this with 73 pills left in the bottle because I had tried this bottle before (17 pills over 7 days, thought it was bunk then)
18*4 = 72
After that I can switch to different batch of Mdrol or SD-1 either way I am afraid of 40 might lower to 20 or 30
Only reason i was hesitating is because i'm afraid of whatever it is i'm eating. Because I dont think it's Superdrol. I have good reason to be afraid to keep going.
what is CEL going to do esp with all the crap going down.No point taking the product if the known effects have not kicked in. Who knows wtf is in it?
Stop dosing now, send the remainder back to CEL with a customer complaint.
a refund and apology for starterswhat is CEL going to do esp with all the crap going down.
sorry unreal, seems something is up. but thats not SD... i agree I say stop because no clue what it is or if its just filler.
Why continue Unreal? 40mg x 7 days and nothing? that's game over it's clearly crap you are taking why risk suppression and get no gains? that's a worst case scenario right there. I have several bottles of M-drol here,not from that lot though, man I hope they aren't bunk.Day 7
40mg Mdrol (30 pre, 10 post)
215 pounds (mehhhh)
lifted back, strength was very average. Took until about halfway into the workout to get a pump going. Not bad but not good.
brief history
Day 0 (before starting) 216 lbs [lift day]
Day 1 40mg Mdrol 215 lbs [lift day]
Day 2 40mg Mdrol no weigh in [cardio/keto]
Day 3 40mg Mdrol 216 [cardio/keto]
Day 4 40mg Mdrol 215 [carbup day]
Day 5 40mg Mdrol 218 [cardio/keto]
Day 6 40mg Mdrol 214 [lift day ]
Day 7 40mg Mdrol 215 [lift day]
well the first time i ran this stuff for 7 days i said it was bunk but idk i guess all the lab tests that CEL kept touting made me 2nd guess myself to some very minor extent, i had to be sure, now i am sure, this stuff is ****, whatever is in each pill, it's not 10mg of Superdrol. This is natural lifting without a doubt.
I'm kinda torn between stopping, doing a few more days, and switching to a different brand to show everybody how i actually react to superdrol. I don't want to get suppressed tho, cuz I got injectables to run soon. But I also want to squash any controversy so there can be no doubt left.
If there's anyone who doubts me, i have a SEALED bottle of Mdrol 092107, and you can try it for yourself. That or if anyone can get it labtested... that would be cool. Cuz whatever's in here is a mystery.
And there's something ****ing wrong with the lab tests CEL showed me. It doesn't add up.
You aren't risking suppression if you aren't getting any anabolic action. No gains, no action.Why continue Unreal? 40mg x 7 days and nothing? that's game over it's clearly crap you are taking why risk suppression and get no gains? that's a worst case scenario right there. I have several bottles of M-drol here,not from that lot though, man I hope they aren't bunk.
the a vs b skeleton is what makes something easier to bind or not. its all about the shape and the ligands ability to bind. wrong shape cant bind.I read through the whole thread over at bb that someone provided earlier, talking about the isomers. The consensus from people in the know (i.e. Matt Cahill) was that there was/is no b isomer, as there would be no reason to produce raws for such a compound and, in fact, such a compound would be totally new and unknown. The isomer issue is explained as a labeling issue.
OK. Assuming this to be true, and not knowing jack **** about chemical manufacturing - would it be possible for this b isomer to contaminate an M-drol batch? IOW, perhaps the COA and the testing is all legit, but with the b isomer being more androgenic and less anabolic, could the product that tests out 100% the way it should still be watered down due to "isomer contamination" (if such a thing is even possible)?
Something ain't right here...
Yes, the isomers can have a massively different affect on things work since it might bind to a certain receptor or not.the a vs b skeleton is what makes something easier to bind or not. its all about the shape and the ligands ability to bind. wrong shape cant bind.
http://www.ergogenics.org/anabolenboek/index5en.html
But what about functionality? I'm no expert, but don't different isomers exhibit different characteristics?the a vs b skeleton is what makes something easier to bind or not. its all about the shape and the ligands ability to bind. wrong shape cant bind.
http://www.ergogenics.org/anabolenboek/index5en.html
beta isomers in most sences the A and B ring i belive (meaning C2, 3, 5,6, 7 ect) are notably less potent and have less of an effect in terms of anabolic:androgenic properties.But what about functionality? I'm no expert, but don't different isomers exhibit different characteristics?
You aren't risking suppression if you aren't getting any anabolic action. No gains, no action.
He IS risking whatever it is in there doing something nasty. Could be fillers. Could be sugar. Could be anything. But I'm probably in the same boat since I seem to be pulsing bunk Mdrol as well. One legit day, 1 good day and 4 nothing days.
Sorry I was basing that comment on this post by Unreal from another thread. I've been following all of these bunk M-drol threads with interest as I have several bottles of M-drol on the shelf myself.No not yet, but I've got very little incentive to try it when i've got 3 bottles of Superdrol that i trust more, if i try it again and it doesn't work it's a waste in so many ways, that and i felt shutdown from the mdrol even though i felt nothing anabolic from it meaning it was like, an active compound to which i didn't respond, which is just weird, i don't wanna get shutdown with no results again, that's as bad as it gets
wow thats a hell of a sentence i wrote
Your experience makes even less sense. From the sound of that it's a mixed bottle with good pills and bad pills. I remember you PMing me that you had felt one of the doses right away, just a bit pre-WO was all it took, and i agreed that yea with SD it's so strong that you can notice it. And now nothing? That's ****ed up.You aren't risking suppression if you aren't getting any anabolic action. No gains, no action.
He IS risking whatever it is in there doing something nasty. Could be fillers. Could be sugar. Could be anything. But I'm probably in the same boat since I seem to be pulsing bunk Mdrol as well. One legit day, 1 good day and 4 nothing days.
Every batch tested so high because CEL only buys the highest quality raws..if samples/raws are'nt of the highest quality , then it does not go in production...period!What are they supposed to say? "Good luck i'm sure it'll kick in tomorrow?" Yeah.... Well CEL produced this stuff and I bought it so this is what happens...
I'm still curious how this stuff tested out pure TWICE... I think SD should be very noticable by now but i'm going to keep running, of course, to be clear for everyone watching...
But it makes me curious about how EVERY batch of Mdrol tested out so damn good... As far as I know now there are several batches around where users are reporting no results at all... So i'm trying to figure out how the testing analysis is just outright wrong.
On another note can anyone vouch for Performance Design SD-1? When I run out of Mdrol i'm going to switch to something else for comparison and SD-1 is what i've got, lemme know.
No but after doing 40mg for 7 days I expect SOMETHINGEvery batch tested so high because CEL only buys the highest quality raws..if samples/raws are'nt of the highest quality , then it does not go in production...period!
If you are expected great gains in 2 or 3 days then Im sure you will be dissappointed
Probably sugar or something extremely cheap broInteresting, I wonder what is in those capsules... and I also wonder if someone else would react differently...
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