Thank you JWA. The store owner says he will send replacement shipment. Although I am disappointed, it was not their fault.An absolutely horrible feeling. Hope ya get them soon boss
Thank you JWA. The store owner says he will send replacement shipment. Although I am disappointed, it was not their fault.An absolutely horrible feeling. Hope ya get them soon boss
For me. All supplements hit the wall at some point. I can't be unhappy that I made it to day 40. I want to try revamp. I just wish there was another like it that I can compare it to.The Get Up and Go Stack gets pretty good reviews. Hopefully it works out well for you, too. A buddy of mine swears by OEP.
Hmmm, maybe I have something similar. I can't be unhappy about the chills though unless it is sign of other underlying effects.I love oep as well.. I always have cold fingers hands feet toes... My body temp fluctuates.. I attribute the cold extremities to hypothyroidism despite being on fat burners.. Personally, I think damage has been incurred on my thyroid and natural metabolism- solution- life time stim user/ hopefully my endo will realize wtf is going on..
Absolutely.. I'm talking years of stacking fat burners w no days off. Lesson learned here..AT2 always makes me sweat bullets, but some users have reported they get chills. Not sure what would be causing this effect but they end up getting results at the end of their bottles. No long term side effects are possible if the products are used within bottle recommendations.
I do that all the time lol. UI?Holy crap. Thanks for all the info. I shouldn't have said replacement for erase. Should have said something to use whe cycling off erase. Will look into UI.
Why am I typing ? I woke up 4 1/2 hours into my sleep.
Oops, meant UA or ursobolic acid. Cheap enough to give it a shot.I do that all the time lol. UI?
I love oep as well.. I always have cold fingers hands feet toes... My body temp fluctuates.. I attribute the cold extremities to hypothyroidism despite being on fat burners.. Personally, I think damage has been incurred on my thyroid and natural metabolism- solution- life time stim user/ hopefully my endo will realize wtf is going on..
I tried to tell PES that I get cold when I take Alpha T2! It goes away as soon as I take time off it though.I havent tried anything else, as I'm not sure what else therereally is..I believe it is working for two reasons...
1- my gf over the past year has constantly mentioned her noticing a decline in my body warmth... I noticed this too
2- extremely cold fingers and toes/extremities ..
Since starting revamp nd lowering stim dosage, my core temp has gone up noticeably, and my numb/cold fingers/toes have disappeared! I am also getting more restful sleep.. Though I have HORRIBLE sleep habits.. I'm in college lol
There is some stuff saying that Agmatine is actually a really good nutrient partitioner when taken before a high carb meal... Gotta be careful with it though. Another memeber (mrcooper) told me definitely not to take a full dose while fasting because it can make you go hypoglycemic... I made the mistake last weekend of taking 1g of agmatine before I left the house because I planned on picking up a high carb meal... well I got caught up at the store and about an hour after taking my agmatine I started feeling extremely sick like I was going to pass out... I had to hold on to the railing for about 5 minutes without walking before I went to the register and then the people in front of me were blabbing and taking forever I thought I was going to pass out for sure.That being said.. There are other supps that work thru different MOA to achieve similar desirable effects. N2s may make u retain water, especially of u eat a high carb diet since carbs make u store water. I recommend using n2s while ON erase so u get the benefits of nutrient partitioning and estrogen/cortisol control. A good nutrient partitioners that doestn bloat me personally is anabolic pump. I have always been my leanest while using it. I am about to experiment with slin sane which is similar to AP. these are also quite effective hen taken 30 minutes prior to fasted cardio for really tapping into fat stores on a low cArb diet.
Interesting. I take a g of agmatine in the am since it is in a daa supp im using- no hypo effects for me..There is some stuff saying that Agmatine is actually a really good nutrient partitioner when taken before a high carb meal... Gotta be careful with it though. Another memeber (mrcooper) told me definitely not to take a full dose while fasting because it can make you go hypoglycemic... I made the mistake last weekend of taking 1g of agmatine before I left the house because I planned on picking up a high carb meal... well I got caught up at the store and about an hour after taking my agmatine I started feeling extremely sick like I was going to pass out... I had to hold on to the railing for about 5 minutes without walking before I went to the register and then the people in front of me were blabbing and taking forever I thought I was going to pass out for sure.
Also I want to see how Lipo PM treats you. Im tempted to go get some but I sleep like completely ****... you guys have any problems with that while taking PM?
During cardio today, I had to put on an extra shirt because I was freezing. I sweated throughout cardio, but it was so cold. Thank you for your input. It will help me decide what to do next with AT2.I tried to tell PES that I get cold when I take Alpha T2! It goes away as soon as I take time off it though.
Thanks again. I took full dose today on almost fasted state. I had 1/2 of sweet potato all morning and went to gym at 11:30 AM. I felt lightheaded and felt like throwing up. I can normally do cardio on an empty stomach. Your comment explains a lot.There is some stuff saying that Agmatine is actually a really good nutrient partitioner when taken before a high carb meal... Gotta be careful with it though. Another memeber (mrcooper) told me definitely not to take a full dose while fasting because it can make you go hypoglycemic... I made the mistake last weekend of taking 1g of agmatine before I left the house because I planned on picking up a high carb meal... well I got caught up at the store and about an hour after taking my agmatine I started feeling extremely sick like I was going to pass out... I had to hold on to the railing for about 5 minutes without walking before I went to the register and then the people in front of me were blabbing and taking forever I thought I was going to pass out for sure.
Also I want to see how Lipo PM treats you. Im tempted to go get some but I sleep like completely ****... you guys have any problems with that while taking PM?
What support has daa and 1gm of Agmatine ?Interesting. I take a g of agmatine in the am since it is in a daa supp im using- no hypo effects for me..
My sleep is always crappy.. I like taking a cap of 5htp+ valerian PLUS whichever pm fat burner sleep aid I'm using.
Supplement- Prometheus rising- AWESOME ingredient profile- NOT a prop blend either so u know exactly how much of each ingredient is in itWhat support has daa and 1gm of Agmatine ?
I might have to try that at some point. Thanks !Supplement- Prometheus rising- AWESOME ingredient profile- NOT a prop blend either so u know exactly how much of each ingredient is in it
I think I will play with the doses a bit. Yeah, I felt dazed and confused when I was done with cardio. Thanks for your input !Yeah I told natty from PES that the chills don't bother me. Kind of tells me its working ya know?
The agmatine on a empty stomach freaked me out so now I only take it on high carb days and only right before my high Carb meal which usually ends up being post workout
Today I took 250mg with 4g of citruline malate and 10g bcaas.... killer pump
We will see. Yesterday, if I closed my eye at any point, I would have dozed off. Got nothing done at work. Better today. Not sure why, so just going through the process of elimination.Lol idk how u could just drop to zero stims!
Yep, thanks for looking out. No more chills period !!!I bet you havent been feeling cold without the AT2 huh?!
5htp+ valerianYeah the chills sucks but definitely a sign to me that AT2 is working... do you miss it at all? hahahaa
Ive been having wicked sleep problems... I think I am going to look in to 5-htp some more to see if it will help. I always have problems staying asleep tho :/
I dont sweat very easy.. so i didn't sweat from being inactive... but sweat pretty good working out.... Mostly my feets and hands just get cold as HELLFlawedgrunt,
did you sweat and have chills or just chills? Is it far fetched to use this to try to keep my body temp down at work ?
Thanks bro im going to try it. I've been taking muscle pharms bullet proof which has phenibut and gaba but that hardly puts me to sleep. Been reading good things about 5-HTP tho5htp+ valerian
Cool ! I will check it out !Hey man.. Check me out.. Starting up soon.. Log
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/194551-log-athletix-pes.html
Thanks. And glad ur liking the lipo pm!Cool ! I will check it out !
Welcome. I'll have to look into using a dose of ag pre mealWoke up this morning after 4 1/2 hours of sleep. I don't feel that bad ! Not completed rested but it does not feel likeI I slept only 4 1/2 hours. I wanted the night far burning effect out of Lipo PM. But I did not expect the sleep effect to be this good. And like cheda said, this supp is pretty cheap. I think I am going to add it as regular support along with Agmatine even after I hit my final weight loss goal. Gotta see how this might be after a good night of sleep length wise....8+.
Also, I feel like nutrition partitioning is working from Agmatine. I have been splitting doses and taking it with high carb meal of the day. Thanks AIS. Definitely a staple.