RAVEN are you out there?
RAVEN are you out there?
I wish I was an ALRI athlete :sad:Yep!!! The contents wont be listed until we are ready to rock. Which should be before the end of April. As all of you are aware our products are HEAVILY knocked off by other companies, so we arent being "shady" as we have been accused of before, just protecting what ours. JW will be a legit and kick ass product. Author has been kicking out some really cool stuff. All of our athletes currently using this are getting incredible results.
OK thanks jmh...I'd rather they be different. Hopefully ALRI gave them the crappier of the two :hammer:I'm pretty sure this is different CPA.
Someone asked C-los from AX the same question - he said they were different.
I wish I was an ALRI athlete :sad:
In all honesty, I am stoked for this product. I can tell yall that retail stores are even getting requests for this heavily! Can you say "bridging"......:woohoo:
raven- is this product like past anabolics that require a pct or like some of the newer herbal ones where no pct is needed?
I know it is recommended 21+ for legal reasons, but is there any reason why 18-21 would not be ok?No PCT is needed, as JW doesnt effect the HPTA system negatively, in fact most realize a significant increase in HPTA activity. Of course someone somewhere will find a way to overdose and claim a negative side effect of some kind, but we suspect it will probably be from excess roughage intake ( herbs do that if you eat enough of themlol)
LOL. Chemistry Humor! Highfive! You're my bro!Maybe one company uses DCM and the other Methylene Chloride
BV
I was having a hard time deciding the other day whether I wanted to make a transdermal solution out of 2-propanol or isopropyl alcohol... maybe you can help me out here man
There definitely is something to the Cissus Quadrangularis based products, I can definitely notice a difference between when Im using it and when Im not. But your right, the marketing hype does go a bit oveboard.On a side note... No way the marketing claims here are typical, not even close. Will this product do SOMETHING? I bet in a double blind crossover study with n>50 you could probably notice a very small (but statistically significant) benefit over placebo.
Well said.LOL. Chemistry Humor! Highfive! You're my bro!
I was having a hard time deciding the other day whether I wanted to make a transdermal solution out of 2-propanol or isopropyl alcohol... maybe you can help me out here man :rofl:
On a side note... No way the marketing claims here are typical, not even close. Will this product do SOMETHING? I bet in a double blind crossover study with n>50 you could probably notice a very small (but statistically significant) benefit over placebo. Is it worth spending $40/month when for another $20/month you could get huge results from juice? Probably not, unless you're really really scared of getting busted (the odds are RIDICULOUSLY low that this will happen, lets be real), or you're really loaded and $40/month is meaningless to you. My entire supplement budget is only like $30/month and I save that for things that have proven their merit in double blind studies. I think a lot of people on bodybuilding boards get results from these expensive hyped supplements by placebo...
On the other hand if there's anything revolutionary here, there will be 20+ published studies and a slew of effective knockoffs within a year or two... And I am a patient man.
Which is why I'll be hiring you if I ever save enough money haha...I can as well and I haven't evne used the new products, just CissusRx.
As for the claims for 10-15lbs or whatever, I can see it happening because I've seen it happen when you use nothing but for every guy that gains 15lbs there are probably 50 that gain only 6lb. But that doesn't invalidate the guy that gained 15lbs. If you go into this thinking that is going to be you...well I won't insult you
If you take this and gain nothing, its not the supplements fault, its your own. I see so many people dismissing supplements becuase they didn't gain or lose anything. You should be gaining and losing and getting closer to your goal with nothing. So IMO for every placebo out there, there are probably 5 people that aren't even doing the simple things right then blame the supplement.
So now you are back to square one not knowing what its going to do and the only way you will know is to try it whether you buy it, trust the numerous amounts of reviews that will probably be posted or send Raven some chocolate and beg to be a tester.
My 2 cents...
Yeah I have a couple of new training methods waiting to be released....Which is why I'll be hiring you if I ever save enough money haha...
On second thought, are you coming out w/ any new training methods or anything anytime soon for your clients? If so, I'll send you some chocolates, and beg to be a tester
Ah... You found new methods to extract them from your brain?Yeah I have a couple of new training methods waiting to be released....
:rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :trout:Ah... You found new methods to extract them from your brain?
Well, one interesting thing about juice is that a guy can do almost everything wrong and still make progress, at least for a while. That's pretty magical. But anyhoo...As for the claims for 10-15lbs or whatever, I can see it happening because I've seen it happen when you use nothing but for every guy that gains 15lbs there are probably 50 that gain only 6lb. But that doesn't invalidate the guy that gained 15lbs. If you go into this thinking that is going to be you...well I won't insult you
If you take this and gain nothing, its not the supplements fault, its your own. I see so many people dismissing supplements becuase they didn't gain or lose anything. You should be gaining and losing and getting closer to your goal with nothing. So IMO for every placebo out there, there are probably 5 people that aren't even doing the simple things right then blame the supplement.
So now you are back to square one not knowing what its going to do and the only way you will know is to try it whether you buy it outright, trust the numerous amounts of reviews that will probably be posted or send Raven some chocolate and beg to be a tester.
My 2 cents...
Then don't hold your breath because there are double blind placebo studies that show creatine doesn't do a thing. People choose to believe what they want to believe.By the same token if you were gaining already and you continue gaining and you "feel" something I'm going to sit back and be skeptical for a while until I see some scientific evidence that it is effective.
Now if you'll excuse me it's time for my sugar pills :rofl:
Ah... You found new methods to extract them from your brain?
I have been and continue to be a test subject for Jungle Warfare. Scott has given me permission to comment. My comments are totally independent, however. I have NO financial interest in any product anywhere. My interest lies in products that work and coming from a science background, I am very skeptical of any products.... most, if not all things I have ever tried, really have little impact.
First, I have been a test subject now for only 8 days. Unfortunately, Spring Break begins today and I am away from a good gym, so have ceased using this product until I return in about 10 days.
Within the first 2 to 3 days, my libito increased significantly. I moniter my weight and body fat using an electronic scale (which varies greatly, but use it same time, same curcumstance each day so it SHOULD at least show trends...) My diet stays very close to same (very healthy) and my workouts may vary a little, but in general are intense.
I also run every day.
My body fat, so far, has remained statistically the same, but today, actually dropped about .5%. My weight has increased, however, from 194 to 196.5 which in keeping records for several years, usually only varies by a pound or 2. Using the bench press as a "strength" test, my bench has increased significantly in less than a week. That is rare.
Although more time and tests are needed, I find this product a rare event. I like it and will continue to use it when I return from Spring Break and give furthur updates.
I will always continue to seek for safe, effective supplements that actually work. My preliminary results at this point, show this product actually works.
Enjoy your break then. You deserve combat pay.High School Science Teacher
I can as well and I haven't evne used the new products, just CissusRx.
As for the claims for 10-15lbs or whatever, I can see it happening because I've seen it happen when you use nothing but for every guy that gains 15lbs there are probably 50 that gain only 6lb. But that doesn't invalidate the guy that gained 15lbs. If you go into this thinking that is going to be you...well I won't insult you
If you take this and gain nothing, its not the supplements fault, its your own. I see so many people dismissing supplements becuase they didn't gain or lose anything. You should be gaining and losing and getting closer to your goal with nothing. So IMO for every placebo out there, there are probably 5 people that aren't even doing the simple things right then blame the supplement.
So now you are back to square one not knowing what its going to do and the only way you will know is to try it whether you buy it outright, trust the numerous amounts of reviews that will probably be posted or send Raven some chocolate and beg to be a tester.
My 2 cents...
Nice, I'm not the only teacher here :thumbsup:High School Science Teacher
Finally somebody said itALRI puts out some great product, but jesus do they have some funny names
RAVEN is going to beat you guys up!:hammer:
hhaha...the thing is, for marketing it may work great. Who is going to forget "jungle warfare" or "fubar"? lol...i'll never know what it does, but that probably doesn't matter.Nawwww I am too freaking sweet I know BS. You guys think that one is funny, wait until we release FUBAR yah that one was mine too, I only had 3 margaritas when I came up with that one!! lol
I dont know if this is out in the states. But ive seen recently around here an energy sports product in capsule form called FUBAR on the shelves. Its by a Company called "Fusion Nutrition":run:Nawwww I am too freaking sweet I know BS. You guys think that one is funny, wait until we release FUBAR yah that one was mine too, I only had 3 margaritas when I came up with that one!! lol
How delightfull :run:Maybe the next ALRI product can be Jungle Fever.
Or Jungle Rot.
(As my Dad calls the fungus he got on his genitals during Vietnam.)
Howabout S w a m p A s s
:toofunny:Ok Alr is gonna kill me, but I like that one
"Gain muscle fast all the while looking like you sat on a wet banana!"Howabout S w a m p A s s
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