:wtf: Guys - the halogen (that would be the chlorine atom at C-4) on the molecule of the active ingredient in H-50 prevents it from aromatizing to an estrogen (there is no aromatization in the A ring because of this).
Estrogen rebound or gyno or whatever is not an issue with H-50 use.
:jaw:
Now, as with ANY hormonal, using PCT is a good insurance policy.
The people who are now saying ATD (and 3-OHAT) are no good for PCT are selling competing products or sell ATD and are about to launch a non-ATD containing anti-aromatase.
:whip:
Do you think anastrazole or letrozole suck for PCT? Ask anyone who has used them.
ATD (and 3-OHAT and 3,6,17-trione) work in the EXACT same manner. They are all suicide inhibitors of aromatase.
ATD *may* in too high a dose blunt libido in some people (it seems the younger you are, the more pronounced this effect is for some unknown reason based on my observations). As much as people selling ATD would like you to think you need to take 75mg-100mg per day for PCT and that 25mg is a good dose, this is based on conjecture.
I'd bet that for PCT (e.g. - not as a standalone to increase test levels into the 2000ng+ range) that 25mg of ATD per day is more than enough for 80% of the people out here.
But telling you to take 3X-4X that amount per day means you need to purchase more products, and thus, the people making it make more money because you use more.
There is a reason I added 3-OHAT to Novedex XT. Aside from it being a "good mop", it also is a metabolite of 3,6,17-trione and helps *significantly* with libido issues.
Gaspari has completed two independent clinical studies on Novedex XT. One was done (and published) by Dr. Tim Ziegnefuss of the ORG and the other is finished (had 20 guys on it for a month) out of Baylor University by Dr. Darryn Willoughby and will be published (I hope) next month so I can then discuss the results.
:study:
The next move is a multicenter (3 centers) study on 30 guys using Nov XT vs. 3,6,17-trione long term (90-180 day with a 30 day follow up when they come off) which will be a pivotal (and expensive) study.
Just remember this when you're buying a knock off ATD product riding our coattails.
Clinical research, which I think all of you would argue is a good thing and much more "reliable" than board logs and such, is a good thing for the industry and it costs $$$ to do it.
So the next time you want to be a cheap ass and save $8 on a month's worth of PCT by purchasing a clone product, just remember that the $8 you saved is $8 less spent on real, independent research on these substances.
You guys have a choice to make and where to spend your money.
If sheer $$$ is your only concern then you're really shortsighted.
I'll get off my soap box now.
Anyhoo...ATD is perfectlt fine for PCT and anyone saying different, ask them for a study showing it is not. Not a study done in vitro on human placental microsomes or some other crap, I mean a bona fide, real study.
Or else tell them it is speculation!
BK :frustrate