From Fat to Chiseled in 8 weeks (MK-677, Ostarine, ITTP, Cardarine)

[hairygrandpa]

Nice progress! Any change in endurance from the GW?

For me, GW keeps my heartbeat and BP down. What really makes a difference in endurance and recovery is ITPP.

 

[yates84]

For me, GW keeps my heartbeat and BP down. What really makes a difference in endurance and recovery is ITPP.

Same here, gw is the best thing that ever happened to my bp

 

[wasme]

Thanks guys

 

[Misfit28]

In this, very interested in your results!

 

[hairygrandpa]

Day 10 of 56

Today my scale told me 227 lbs. WTH ? Yesterday it was 223.5 lbs. Where did the 3.5 lbs come from??? :scared: :Flush:

Felt sh***y yesterday, skipped gym and went today instead.

-Leg Press: 408lbs x12/12
-Leg curls : machine max 27/25/25
-Incline Press x143 lbs x9/12 +Pushups elevated legs x50 (!)
-Chin ups BW 227 lbs x6/6/6 <-- my new best
-DB Front rises: 27.5 lbsx2 10/10/10
-Bicep curls machine: 105lbs x12/10/7
-Skull crusher zbar: 77lbs x8/9

Weird:
Noted that all my trousers are to big.
I'm loosing fat around my glutes, arse getting smaller but no changes to mid-section. Well, that's new.

 

[1test]

Water fluctuations maybe

 

[medinacirilo]

Gained some lbs but clothes fit loose? Awesome! Building muscle and burning fat

 

[hairygrandpa]

Gained some lbs but clothes fit loose? Awesome! Building muscle and burning fat

Would be awesome, but to early to tell.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Day 11 of 56

Went to gym on my "off-day", core exercises:

Cable oblique twists: 61.5 lbs x 12/10/8/8
Face pulls (Fists on side of head): 69.5 lbs x 12/12/12
Face pulls (Fists up hammer motion): 61.5lbs x 11/10/9
Abs decline crunches with 7 lbs medicine ball : 37/26
planking 30-40 sec x2

Scale says: 226 lbs, still too much.
Thinking now, that earth gravitational field anomaly is to blame, probably HAARP, Dark Matter- or evil Russian-Remote-Scale-Control

 

[CJNator]

Day 11 of 56

Went to gym on my "off-day", core exercises:

Cable oblique twists: 61.5 lbs x 12/10/8/8
Face pulls (Fists on side of head): 69.5 lbs x 12/12/12
Face pulls (Fists up hammer motion): 61.5lbs x 11/10/9
Abs decline crunches with 7 lbs medicine ball : 37/26
planking 30-40 sec x2

Scale says: 226 lbs, still too much.
Thinking now, that earth gravitational field anomaly is to blame, probably HAARP, Dark Matter- or evil Russian-Remote-Scale-Control

Well I read HAARP was closed early this year or late last year so yea

 

[kenpoengineer]

The mirror is your friend but the scale is evil. Lol. Looks as though you are recomping. This is a good thing, I'd say stay the course. Nice lifts HG!!

 

[hairygrandpa]

The mirror is your friend but the scale is evil. Lol. Looks as though you are recomping. This is a good thing, I'd say stay the course. Nice lifts HG!!

In my case: The scale is evil and the mirror too, lol.

Have to re-evaluate my calorie intake, I'm not satisfied at all.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Day 12 of 56

Felt energized today:

-Leg extensions : 208 lbs x 15/15/14
-DB side rises : 22 lbsx2 x11/11/10
-Dips BW 226 lbs: 16/11
-Champagne Press: 48.5 lbsx2 x15/15/13
-Seated Row reverse grip: 165lbs 11/13/11
-Horizontal rope pulls: 15/12
-Bicep curls seated machine: 101lbs 14/10/8
-1 set push ups x 53

 

[hairygrandpa]

It's not a sprint, it's a marathon !

 

[CJNator]

It's not a sprint, it's a marathon !



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I definitely see a difference for the pictures from the last log. You look tighter IMO.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Day 15 of 56

Discipline was thrown out the window, did 3 cheat days instead of one...
Cheated heavy with meat, sausages and nuts but not as bad on carbs .

:sigh1:

-Leg Press: 408 lbs x15/15
-Stiff Deadlift: 231 lbs x13/10/10
-BB Shrugs (good ones, not chicken-shrugs) 231 lbs x15/15/15
-Bench Press: 165 lbs x12/ 187 lbs x8
-Push ups: 40
-DB Shoulder press: 44lbs x11/11/11
-Lat pull down: 180 lbs x13/10/9
-seated triceps extensions machine: 120 lbs x15/12
-biceps DB curls: 38.5 lbsx2 x8/9/6

Cutting is harder then I thought. I crave mainly meat or eggs, especially before bed, it's like my body is telling me to eat more protein to keep growing.
Will never get lean this way, (put explicit language here)!

I'm thinking of dropping the MK-677, it may be the culprit for the cravings and water retention.

 

[CJNator]

I hear you man, weekends and off days for me are hard to eat less. Mainly I don't care too much about how much I eat but more like if I eat carbs(which I do but probably 75[good day] to 150[bad day], just estimating).

 

[hairygrandpa]

I hear you man, weekends and off days for me are hard to eat less. Mainly I don't care too much about how much I eat but more like if I eat carbs(which I do but probably 75[good day] to 150[bad day], just estimating).

Let's create the DCA : "Diet Cheaters Anonymous"!

"Hi, my name is Hairygrandpa and I am a cheater."

 

[CJNator]

Let's create the DCA : "Diet Cheaters Anonymous"!

"Hi, my name is Hairygrandpa and I am a cheater."

and the only food that we can snack on is there grilled chicken and rice lol.

 

[spaizkadett]

Hey Grandpa, I have to tell you that you're calorie intake might be too low. You're body will think it's starving and you wont lose much. All you eat will be used for your survival and the fat you have on your body will be kept intact. My guesstimate would be 1800-2000 kcal a day would help you lose 2 lb per week. Macros divided something like this, protein 1g/lb bodyweight, 100g of fat and the rest carbs. This will help you shred fat but keep your muscles (mostly)

P.S. I have only read your initial post and not the entire thread so disregard if you feel like it

 

[hairygrandpa]

Hey Grandpa, I have to tell you that you're calorie intake might be too low. You're body will think it's starving and you wont lose much....

Yes,Yes... but not after those cheat days.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Day 16 of 56

"off day" complementary routine:

Cable oblique twists: 61.5 lbs x 8
54 lbsx10/10
Face pulls (Fists on side of head): 69.5 lbs x 10/11/11
Face pulls (Fists up- hammer motion): 54lbs x 15/11/10
Abs decline crunches with 7 lbs medicine ball : 40
Roman Chair leg raises : 20/17
planking 30-40 sec x2
Leg curls machine: 17/19/14 (slow motion with max weight)
DB Front raises: 2x27.5 lbs x9/10/10

Diet on track again.... for now....

 

[hairygrandpa]

Day 18 of 56

Switched routine around , implemented some isometric sets:

Seated Leg Press: 446.5 lbs 13/14
Leg Extensions: 208 lbs x10
120 lbs 3 sec hold x11/9
BB Incline Press: 176.5lbs x8/9
Push ups elev. legs: 50
Chin ups BW 226 Lbs: 6/6/6
Seated Row reverse grip: 195lbs x10
180lbs x12
135lbs 3 sec hold x9

Diet on track, did not loose weight. It's not a cut, it's a recomp at 1800-2000 kcal. Will keep it that way.

 

[kenpoengineer]

Strong inclines and leg extensions! Recomping is the way to go. Nice job!

 

[CJNator]

Day 18 of 56

Switched routine around , implemented some isometric sets:

Seated Leg Press: 446.5 lbs 13/14
Leg Extensions: 208 lbs x10
120 lbs 3 sec hold x11/9
BB Incline Press: 176.5lbs x8/9
Push ups elev. legs: 50
Chin ups BW 226 Lbs: 6/6/6
Seated Row reverse grip: 195lbs x10
180lbs x12
135lbs 3 sec hold x9

Diet on track, did not loose weight. It's not a cut, it's a recomp at 1800-2000 kcal. Will keep it that way.

Recomps are awesome IMO, you shrink but stay the same weight.

Edit: Also good lifts!

 

[hairygrandpa]

Day 20 of 56

Had elbow pain from yesterday and took it slow, focused on quality.

Dips BW: 10/10/10
Cable flys slow motion 6 sec x rep: 2x30lbs 18/14/10
DB Champagne press: 2x55 lbs x 10/9
DB Side raises: 2x22 lbs 10/10/10
Biceps curls and Triceps extensions: 1 trillion reps ! (pumped both in succession until total fatigue with medium weights)

 

[wasme]

Looks like some great sessions... were the curls/extensions like 100 rep set style?

 

[hairygrandpa]

Looks like some great sessions... were the curls/extensions like 100 rep set style?

More in the 20-30 rep range , with different weights. Pump was insane.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Having problems with recovery.
24 hours between gym days is not enough for me, I guess it's my age.
My whole body aches and screams for a break.

 

[CJNator]

Having problems with recovery.
24 hours between gym days is not enough for me, I guess it's my age.
My whole body aches and screams for a break.

Go for a deload week then. I've heard they are really good.

 

[1test]

Go for a deload week then. I've heard they are really good.

Deloading on a cycle ? That's new

 

[CJNator]

I don't think it matters of you on a cycle or not.

 

[1test]

I don't think it matters of you on a cycle or not.

That would completely contradict the point of cycling. Not the best idea imo
If someone is doing a 4 week cycle to get better results than he would naturally, why would he consider taking a week off from training. Before or even after the cycle makes sense to me.

 

[CJNator]

That would completely contradict the point of cycling. Not the best idea imo
If someone is doing a 4 week cycle to get better results than he would naturally, why would he consider taking a week off from training. Before or even after the cycle makes sense to me.

Never though about that lol, I guess my mind is slipping.

 

[1test]

Having problems with recovery.
24 hours between gym days is not enough for me, I guess it's my age.
My whole body aches and screams for a break.

What kind of split are you following?

 

[Quest]

Hairygranpa,

Keep it up man!

Reading along, remember you get hurt and it's game over. Hit the gym, take you rest days and kill it in the kitchen where it counts.

good luck

 

[CJNator]

How is it going?

 

[hairygrandpa]

Sorry for my absence. I had a hard time at my farm (no internet there), firing employees and getting sh** together.
I got off of all chems over a month ago and did a regular low cal- high prot diet.
This thread is closed, I consider my approach a fail. Will open a new thread shortly.

 

[Misfit28]

Glad to see you are doing OK. Were the chems bunk or just the approach/dosing/diet/layout etc.?

 

[CJNator]

Its all good, **** happens man.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Glad to see you are doing OK. Were the chems bunk or just the approach/dosing/diet/layout etc.?

I just felt ill on all that stuff and my whole body started to ache. Paused my diet and workout regime for 5 days and started over again, all natural.
Feeling good now and ready for a new cycle, hehehe ! I guess it has to do with age- and me, overdoing the chems.

 

[CJNator]

I just felt ill on all that stuff and my whole body started to ache. Paused my diet and workout regime for 5 days and started over again, all natural.
Feeling good now and ready for a new cycle, hehehe ! I guess it has to do with age- and me, overdoing the chems.

I'm glad you are doing good again and are your goals the same? Also I got a new journal up! I'm ending my cut with albuterol to my lean bulk with LGD.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Its all good, **** happens man.

For me , sh** hit the fan. Lot's of trouble with employees, my dog mysteriously died and other real life stress.

All is better now. New dog will be at home by Thursday, will post a pic of that little bugger.

 

[CJNator]

For me , sh** hit the fan. Lot's of trouble with employees, my dog mysteriously died and other real life stress.

All is better now. New dog will be at home by Thursday, will post a pic of that little bugger.

Oh **** man, that is way more then **** happens; sorry about your dog.

 

[hairygrandpa]

I'm glad you are doing good again and are your goals the same? Also I got a new journal up! I'm ending my cut with albuterol to my lean bulk with LGD.

Will lookup your log later and begin my own log. Trying a recomp with : Epistane, Trenavar and MENT.

 

[CJNator]

Sounds good man! Also look up RAD140 its a new sarm, a couple of logs are up with people using it.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Sounds good man! Also look up RAD140 its a new sarm, a couple of logs are up with people using it.

Already heard of it, but it seems more like a nootropic , like good for your brain -or something... I may need it, lol.

 

[CJNator]

Already heard of it, but it seems more like a nootropic , like good for your brain -or something... I may need it, lol.

Is this the same RAD140 that is synergetic with testosterone? Idk if we are talking about the same thing lol?

 

[hairygrandpa]

Is this the same RAD140 that is synergetic with testosterone? Idk if we are talking about the same thing lol?

Yes, the same. Abstract:

"RAD140 was shown to exhibit peripheral tissue-specific androgen action that largely spared prostate, neural efficacy as demonstrated by activation of androgenic gene regulation effects, and neuroprotection of hippocampal neurons against cell death caused by systemic administration of the excitotoxin kainate. These novel findings demonstrate initial preclinical efficacy of a SARM in neuroprotective actions relevant to Alzheimer's disease and related neurodegenerative diseases."

Interesting compound.

 

[Misfit28]

Yes, the same. Abstract:

"RAD140 was shown to exhibit peripheral tissue-specific androgen action that largely spared prostate, neural efficacy as demonstrated by activation of androgenic gene regulation effects, and neuroprotection of hippocampal neurons against cell death caused by systemic administration of the excitotoxin kainate. These novel findings demonstrate initial preclinical efficacy of a SARM in neuroprotective actions relevant to Alzheimer's disease and related neurodegenerative diseases."

Interesting compound.

Man, I really think I need to run some of that. I just keep seeing more and more positive things about it.

The Alzheimer's thing is particularly worrisome for me, as my grandmother had it and my mother is showing early signs.