Better bang for the buck unlike FreeTest.
It is dose dependent upon your own physiological stance. If you produce Aromatase by the bucket load, then you are going to differ from someone else.At 3 caps per day, what percent of estrogen is reduced?
What about someone like me, on an aromatizing compound now who normaly produces average estro levels..It is dose dependent upon your own physiological stance. If you produce Aromatase by the bucket load, then you are going to differ from someone else.
Albeit, 3 caps is a descent dose and should dry out your average user very nicely.
Most definitely.. I personally find 3 caps very strong and need to dial back.What about someone like me, on an aromatizing compound now who normaly produces average estro levels..
Would 3 caps per day reduce estrogen levels to at least normal?
ThisIt is dose dependent upon your own physiological stance. If you produce Aromatase by the bucket load, then you are going to differ from someone else.
Albeit, 3 caps is a descent dose and should dry out your average user very nicely.
Agreed. Even at 2 caps some users who were taking it alone said it was plenty. But with AI's I like the idea of using 3 caps and then dialing backI recommend 3 caps, 4 is only for someone who estrogen is wreaking havoc on their body.
3 should be enough unless you are on high doses of aromatizing compounds and are estro-senstivive. As i said above, I like to dose high and work my way back to the sweet spot.What about someone like me, on an aromatizing compound now who normaly produces average estro levels..
Would 3 caps per day reduce estrogen levels to at least normal?
2-3 is certainly the sweet spotMost definitely.. I personally find 3 caps very strong and need to dial back.
Too early? NEVERI know it's still early, but what would be the best dosing scheme to run when used in conjunction with A-T2?
If it is pre-existing no AI will get it. Now if it is recently developed gyno it make berid of it. Pre-existing gyno from puberty must be removed by surgerywill this have any affect on existing gyno?
Yeah, that is just a taste, it isnt finished.followed the link to the new pes homesite-nice.
you guys are taking it nice and slow-this is only your 2nd product and already you have a great reputation. can't wait to see what the future holds! we need to support company's like pes that don't give in to the prop blend trend. nice job!Yeah, that is just a taste, it isnt finished.
right here-right now.Thanks T-money! (i just gave you a new nickname. Right now.)
Simple but effective. I like it!
Strengthwise, how would you compare this to ATD, Natty? :thinking:Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione 25mg
A very powerful 7-oxo-dhea metabolite. The fact it is a far metabolite of DHEA should not make it less attractive, but rather more attractive.
I have never been a fan of tapering any AI when I am just using it for general test booster/estrogen reduction.
If someone were to use it in a PCT though, they would want to taper it.
Since it cannot convert to estrogen or an estrogen compound itself and does not suppress HPTA in any way, no reason to expect estrogen rebound
I am finally decided.
Seeing the great reviews on Alpha-T2 I am going to run it and ERASE for 8 weeks.
I've been back and forth for a while on what to choose, but this compound seems to be strong enough for results but moderate enough not to cause adverse effects.
Nearly the same Ki value as ATD, but ATD has anti-androgenic effects, and no cortisol effects...so...Erase for the win.Strengthwise, how would you compare this to ATD, Natty? :thinking:
Let us know how it goes!I am finally decided.
Seeing the great reviews on Alpha-T2 I am going to run it and ERASE for 8 weeks.
I've been back and forth for a while on what to choose, but this compound seems to be strong enough for results but moderate enough not to cause adverse effects.
It makes perfect sense, and you are EXACTLY right!Just a thought. Wouldn't this be an IDEAL 2 in 1 PCT product for both test boosting and cortisol control? Thinking you'd start in week 3 of a SERM PCT and add this in 2 caps a day; 1 first thing AM and one pre-workout (evening workout) or dinner.
At 2 caps, based on what TheHuge and others are saying, it has adequate estradiol control (not too much that would be bad/supressive for PCT) but has a significant increase in testosterone. On top of that add in the cortisol control in the AM and for your workout and you've got both bases covered.
Seems like a very versatile compound at a great price. If this makes sense, I'm gonna stock up for future cycles.
Bump!Strengthwise, how would you compare this to ATD, Natty? :thinking:
He answered two posts up... now maybe he should tell us all what a KI value is.Bump!
Ki, in basic terms, represents how "effective" or "potent" a certain compound is on binding to the enzyme, and in the case, inhibiting aromatase.Bump!
:bigok:Im guessing it is as strong as ATD, but with more benefits and no libido loss ...
YES! So few people realize this.Ki, in basic terms, represents how "effective" or "potent" a certain compound is on binding to the enzyme, and in the case, inhibiting aromatase.
The lower the number, the better the inhibition.
ATD has a very close Ki to Erase, but ATD is anti-androgenic, so not sure who would ever want to take it!
I think there are better options availableWhat is your opinion on 7-methoxy?
You do not want an AI to recover from cycle you need an SERM. There are no OCT SERM's worth a damn.Yeah I thought so. SO what kind of OTC steroid can you run and recover well with this? I have a few bottles of tren Xtreme and was always too scared to use them because of only OTC PCT's available. How will this do with the massive shutdown ppl seem to get? I am really Interested in this product because I just graduated school and have a lot of time and money to put into another cycle. Its been over a year since I ran anything.
Correct, AI's should be introduced 3-4 weeks after stopping prohormonesgood 3-4 weeks out.
Eh, I forget my reason off the top of my head but I know there is some reason why AI's are not good until 3-4 weeks out and I know it was not any peripheral estrogen conversion. Read enough boards for enough years and it all becomes blurry and you just "know" things you can't fully explain at all time haCorrect, AI's should be introduced 3-4 weeks after stopping prohormones
Luckily with Erase, it ill not harm your recovery as it does not convert to estrogen or any compounds that will shut down your HPTA. Other AI's will though.
most so called ai's are more test boosters than anti-aromatase anyways, lol. 6oxo used to be the standard for pct.Eh, I forget my reason off the top of my head but I know there is some reason why AI's are not good until 3-4 weeks out and I know it was not any peripheral estrogen conversion. Read enough boards for enough years and it all becomes blurry and you just "know" things you can't fully explain at all time ha
Yes I would... Even if it does not hurt does not mean it will HELP. Now you might get by without PCT but thats up to you to decide if that is worth the chance for you or not. It's a risk but generally you will recover from short cycles. Anyway, SERM's can be ordered as "research" chemicals.well as said above 6-bromo ATD and formestane hurt HTPA and erase doesnt.
I used Formestane after havoc and original reversitol after hdrol and felt pretty good.
Would you still recommend a SERM? If so I am selling this stuff.
Oh trust me, I know the feeling haha.Eh, I forget my reason off the top of my head but I know there is some reason why AI's are not good until 3-4 weeks out and I know it was not any peripheral estrogen conversion. Read enough boards for enough years and it all becomes blurry and you just "know" things you can't fully explain at all time ha
There aren't any studies done on its effects with SHBG, but it has been my understanding that a number of steroidal AI's, compared to non-steroidal AI's have a better chance at binding to SHBG, which will keep T from binding, and increase free TDoes Erase lower SHBG a good amount and free up testosterone?
If they have a higher affinity to SHBG then it stands that they have a higher affinity to AR as well and will act as a competitive inhibitor so to speak.There aren't any studies done on its effects with SHBG, but it has been my understanding that a number of steroidal AI's, compared to non-steroidal AI's have a better chance at binding to SHBG, which will keep T from binding, and increase free T
formestane hurt HTPA
How do you think Erase would perform as an on-cycle AI with an injectable Testosterone cycle?Correct, AI's should be introduced 3-4 weeks after stopping prohormones
Luckily with Erase, it ill not harm your recovery as it does not convert to estrogen or any compounds that will shut down your HPTA. Other AI's will though.
I'm usually too razzled and absentminded to keep anything down.Open a log and link it here bro
Bump this questionHow do you think Erase would perform as an on-cycle AI with an injectable Testosterone cycle?
I know Gamer is running it this way. Just wanted to know your opinion Natty.
I'm getting ready to start another 10 week blast cycle with 100mg. of Test-Prop EOD and 500mg. of Test-Enanthate weekly and it's either gonna require an order for some A-Dex or this Erase if it performs.
It is prime for such cycles. The exogenous test triggers the bodys feedback loop and raises aromatase to convert test to estrogen. Now lets take the aromatase out of the equation and you have your blood stream riddled with test.Bump this question