BigRigg
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Time to man upI'm
Nervous to try if this stuff is bloating u.. I tend to bloat easily.. Fudge! Noe idk what to do!
Time to man upI'm
Nervous to try if this stuff is bloating u.. I tend to bloat easily.. Fudge! Noe idk what to do!
U just want guinea pigs !Time to man up
Could be helpful hahaU just want guinea pigs !
It is in the US stores yes.was considering this, but i to bloat very easy as have ibs, is it causing appreciable fat loss in users do we know
Is this oficially released in the US now
Cant post on the usp forum to ask when it will arrive in the uk
It's already available in the UK. Search google.co.uk and you'll see where you can order it from. Hypo is short for hypoglycemia (low blood sugar).Agreed, havnt seen to see many people rave about how good it is, apparantly it makes you hypo what does this mean?
Any way to get in touch with a usp rep regarding when it will be sent to the uk?
Thanks.
think u mean agonist....if by trash you mean a ziplock baggie stuffed into an envelope with my address on it... theeeen... i aint gonna hate, lol.
for reals though, I felt the same way at first(minus the breathing issue) n was happy I stuck it out.
Being a beta receptor antagonist though, it should actually increase breathing abilities by dilating the bronchial air ways... this is what clen and albuterol are actually used for pharmaceuticaly, asthma.
maybe you respond inversely somehow???
Everyone knows that's a thing of the past.U just want guinea pigs !
Ginny fish are better, they don't sass meEveryone knows that's a thing of the past.
It's all about ginny dogs, now.
Do you think the c20 is bloating you, if so what ingrediant in it could cause this?I dunno I may wanna throw this stuff str8 in the trash because I'm bloating like crazy, so I'm do an elimination process....
found it, ahh i see but how and why would it cause low blood sugar?It's already available in the UK. Search google.co.uk and you'll see where you can order it from. Hypo is short for hypoglycemia (low blood sugar).
That was my first thought when I saw the list of supps.. I think individually these would be okay.. Even stacked they might not cause bloat, but adding the c20 may jace caused some sort of reaction which may not occur in the absence of any of the other supps.Do you think the c20 is bloating you, if so what ingrediant in it could cause this?
or could it be a rise in estrogen from the 2 t boosters you are taking?
Ahhh bro. Stoked is an AI! I would almost guarantee your estrogen levels r too low combined with erase- drop the stoked definitely- I would even suggest sticking to just 3g daa daily- anything more seems like overkill IMHO... I would def make these changes. How long have you been taking everything? And how long do u have left??I'm using erase pro, c20, stoked, DAA 3-6g daily and testopro.... Agamatine 1000mg daily.
What should I drop?
Not test- I think u are crushing your estrogen levels by taking stoked and erase Pro at the same time.. I would dropped the stoked I bet you'll feel a hundred times better. Any lethargy? Where r u holding the water?Just strarted 3-4 days ago...
Test too low or too high?
Face and all over, alight I'll drop the stoked, maybe erase every other day?Not test- I think u are crushing your estrogen levels by taking stoked and erase Pro at the same time.. I would dropped the stoked I bet you'll feel a hundred times better. Any lethargy? Where r u holding the water?
What did u come off of? I would take the erase every day..Face and all over, alight I'll drop the stoked, maybe erase every other day?
I thought coming off cycle estrogen would be high?
The erase is meant to be taken everyday - 1 cap, it is a very strong arom. Inhibitor and cortisol controllerI'm confused.
Came off AndroMass v2
Also... for those asking hypo does mean hypoglycemic but what that means for the supplement itself is that it is VERY likely that it is increasing nutrient partitioning and utilization of the food your eating... in other words it can significantly help increase anabolism if your eating the right stuff.It's already available in the UK. Search google.co.uk and you'll see where you can order it from. Hypo is short for hypoglycemia (low blood sugar).
of course you are correct.... Ive been reading through all the threads dealing with rauwolscine, namely in AT-2 which has beta agonists as well and getting my agonists/antagonists mixed up.think u mean agonist....
so which SERM do you have on hand???Yeah guess I'll have to come up with something
Toremso which SERM do you have on hand???
Cause if anything you should be starting Nolva or Torem right away and actually dropping(at least lowering) your intake of Aromatase Inhibitors till you are most of the way through your PCT and going to be coming down off the SERM.
Titrating the doses of your SERM and an AI is the best way to prevent an estrogen rebound... also the estrogen your dealing with is already formed from the AM you were taking, no amount of an AI is going to help you at this point... Id get on that SERM like yesterday(hopefully NOT clomid since its the worst at actually blocking estrogen).
Thank uAaron just go Erase Pro, 3g DAA, C20 - a solid stack in itself
U using it yet? if so what dose?Torem
Going to start think 90/60/60/30?U using it yet? if so what dose?
MM i like what natty suggested. Erase pro has both serm and ai in one product, sounds like a good test for an effective otc pct. The first version of andromass is not that strong of a ph according to many, if you ran a 6 weeker or shorter cycle otc should cover, at least pp claim their trs is sufficient on 4-6 week cycles.Going to start think 90/60/60/30?
thats more then adequate. should serve you well.Going to start think 90/60/60/30?
it was temporary though and subsided with a slight dietary change...I think poopy also had this problem , i read his beta log.
This sounds like solid advice...MM i like what natty suggested. Erase pro has both serm and ai in one product, sounds like a good test for an effective otc pct. The first version of andromass is not that strong of a ph according to many, if you ran a 6 weeker or shorter cycle otc should cover, at least pp claim their trs is sufficient on 4-6 week cycles.
Fyi, you are the 3rd person i hear about bloating w compound 20, I been 2 weeks into it and 5 days into it i started to bloat on it and keept getting "softer" look without changes to routine and diet. I first didn't know what was cousing it. I been on triazole and ursobolic, neither one has bloated me before in fact have rather leaned me out. I just dropped the compound 20 about 2 days ago, and im starting to feel less bloated and water retention again, no changes in diet whatsoever. Ive used testopro and erase before and that combo damn hardens me up so i dont think it can be that either, plus they dont even kick in till a few weeks in and you are 3 days in so not possible. i can almost GUARANTEE you is the compound 20 as i had the same effects on me. It sucks cause i dished 50 bucks on that stuff fu@#$... but hey, its already done. I think poopy also had this problem , i read his beta log.
PS if you go otc i would do erase pro , DAA, and add the testopro during the 3rd or 4th week of pct when your natural test is high enough. There is no point on it now as you dont have a lot of test to free up yet. Just focus your first 4 weeks on raising test.
If funds allow i would throw in Primordial's toco8 and run 2 scoops a day for 4 weeks alongside if you go otc route. Ideally i would do:
wks1-4 erase pro, Daa, Toco 8
Wks 3-6 add testopro alongside.
just my 2 cents.
cheers
i think all those in the mix together will not work well and could without a doubt could cause bloat, his t could be high off the boosters causing high e, but said hes taking 2 aisThat was my first thought when I saw the list of supps.. I think individually these would be okay.. Even stacked they might not cause bloat, but adding the c20 may jace caused some sort of reaction which may not occur in the absence of any of the other supps.
For example- in December I was peaking a cut for a cruise i was going on at the end of the month. At the beginning of dec I stacked ursobolic, oep, at2, erase, lipotrophin pm- all have worked well INDIVIDUALLY in cuts.. Never used them all together... Turns out that combined- they bloated me HORRIBLY. I was told it was something to do with the green tea in lipo and the beta agonists in at2. It was just too much. Once I switched things up, the bloat was gone in a matter of days.
I would guess maybe the daa is bloating you, for me i never used it b4, loaded up on 2 servings of tf2 after about 10days bloated up big time really smooth bloated gutt so was possible due to the substance itself or a rise in estrogen although i never felt no effects of raised t, i stopped it after about 12 days.I'm using erase pro, c20, stoked, DAA 3-6g daily and testopro.... Agamatine 1000mg daily.
What should I drop?
Dont like the sound of this a few reports of bloating from c20, i may have to give it a missFyi, you are the 3rd person i hear about bloating w compound 20, I been 2 weeks into it and 5 days into it i started to bloat on it and keept getting "softer" look without changes to routine and diet. I first didn't know what was cousing it. I been on triazole and ursobolic, neither one has bloated me before in fact have rather leaned me out. I just dropped the compound 20 about 2 days ago, and im starting to feel less bloated and water retention again, no changes in diet whatsoever. Ive used testopro and erase before and that combo damn hardens me up so i dont think it can be that either, plus they dont even kick in till a few weeks in and you are 3 days in so not possible. i can almost GUARANTEE you is the compound 20 as i had the same effects on me. It sucks cause i dished 50 bucks on that stuff fu@#$... but hey, its already done. I think poopy also had this problem , i read his beta log.
He can't drop daa he just came off andromass and needs the natural test boost.I would guess maybe the daa is bloating you, for me i never used it b4, loaded up on 2 servings of tf2 after about 10days bloated up big time really smooth bloated gutt so was possible due to the substance itself or a rise in estrogen although i never felt no effects of raised t, i stopped it after about 12 days.
I think you are confusing water retention with abdominal distention. If you get IBS and a bloated gut you are looking at inflammatory processes within the GI tract. Water retention is a completely different thing.I would guess maybe the daa is bloating you, for me i never used it b4, loaded up on 2 servings of tf2 after about 10days bloated up big time really smooth bloated gutt so was possible due to the substance itself or a rise in estrogen although i never felt no effects of raised t, i stopped it after about 12 days.
daa made my abdominal bloat worse (internal bloat is gas/water), and gave me external fluid retentionI think you are confusing water retention with abdominal distention. If you get IBS and a bloated gut you are looking at inflammatory processes within the GI tract. Water retention is a completely different thing.
This^^I think you are confusing water retention with abdominal distention. If you get IBS and a bloated gut you are looking at inflammatory processes within the GI tract. Water retention is a completely different thing.
Understood, but if i was sure daa was the cause id stop, the bloating wouldnt be worth itHe can't drop daa he just came off andromass and needs the natural test boost.
Can't pin point what us is and don't want to eliminate anything just yet.Understood, but if i was sure daa was the cause id stop, the bloating wouldnt be worth it
I tried making this point previously and it was completely overlooked by MA..I think you are confusing water retention with abdominal distention. If you get IBS and a bloated gut you are looking at inflammatory processes within the GI tract. Water retention is a completely different thing.
Most guys actually get GI distress from DAA bro, its not just you...daa made my abdominal bloat worse (internal bloat is gas/water), and gave me external fluid retention
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