ALA brand and types

[Scottyo]

I have used a lot of Alpha Lipoic Acid over the past year and a half, especially since it became popular. Usually I have used the racemic simply because of price but think I am going back to the r-ALA. Now, my question for those who use either or both, is why is everyone against BAC's R-ala powder. I have used their racemic powder and enjoy it, and their r-ala powder is good priced as well. Bobo, anyone? Fonz has mentioned that its really 80/20 but they offer cert of analysis so I am not sure how this is possible. Has anyone tried it? thanks

 

[Scottyo]

Anyone?

 

[jweave23]

What have you heard against the r-ala powder? That would be a start, otherwise I'm not sure how to answer the question. I have heard of the possible degradation of ala due to UV light, or other air exposure, but those seem to be doubtful also now.

 

[jweave23]

And how would Fonz know what % it is?

 

[Scottyo]

That's what I was wondering (how Fonz knew) but others on three different boards seemed to say the same. Fonz mentioned that the r-ala from BAC was 80 percent r and 20 percent s so still somewhat of a racemic blend. I am not sure if he tested this with blood glucose analysis like he did with others, but he claims the only two good brands are AF and 1fast400. Also, what type you using?

 

[wojo]

syntrax's "R" !!!!!!!! www.muscleshoppe.com

 

[jweave23]

I use Mike's at 1fast, but I just ordered Syntrax's today. Unless I see some verifiable evidence, I don't see how Fonz can claim it is 80/20. Basically I have no idea if it's pure or nor, but I certainly won't take his word for it

 

[Scottyo]

Thats what I thought....so what makes you guys order syntrax or 1fast verse BAC's powder then. Simply cap over free form powder? Because BAC's is 20grams for 17 bucks.

 

[Scottyo]

Well, since no one seems to have any experience with it...I went with BAC's r-ala powder. I have been using the racemic mix so I am going to see if I notice a difference between the two. Also, I had them send me a cert of analysis from theirs and a third party. Both checked out. We shall see.

 

[wojo]

Thats what I thought....so what makes you guys order syntrax or 1fast verse BAC's powder then. Simply cap over free form powder? Because BAC's is 20grams for 17 bucks.

very simple once ala hits the air its done..or thats the rumor

 

[Scottyo]

That has been proven false and I can verify that. I have used ALA powder for a long time now, and have never noticed this oxidation bs. I've read other research that suggests that encapsulating ALA damages it as well. So it leaves us...

 

[wojo]

ok well i did call it a rumor..btw how were u able to tell? just curious scottyooooooooooo

 

[Kitchen Chemist]

http://www.research-chems.com/

 

[Biggs]

... racemic works just fine for me... cheap as dog **** at walmart too... by the way, do you really want to listen to "Fonz"? I mean really? I dunno one way or the other, but isn't he the "year long cycle" dooder? oh and Weave a question for you sir... you've used both types eh? and are now working with the more expensive R-ALA? do you really notice changes that warrant the cost increase (however miniscule they may be in the long run). just curious.

 

[wojo]

um biggin its proven too work better

 

[wojo]

http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4728

 

[Biggs]

... ... WHY did I miss that thread? just been one of those weeks I guess my bad Wojo, good stuff there. I had always assumed (for some no doubt arbitrary and stupid reason) that one could just consume more of the cheaper type and save yourself some green at the expense of a little efficiency. whoops again

 

[Nelson]

Have any of you used or heard whether Now Foods ALA is any good?
I know there are better brands, it`s just I can`t buy them where I am.

 

[wojo]

where is that? now alright but its still a mix of s and r..

 

[Nelson]

Wojo
Now Foods ALA can be bought from dpsnutrition.com & netrition.com

 

[wojo]

lol i know that man...i was asking where u were that u couldnt get another brand

 

[Nelson]

lol i know that man...i was asking where u were that u couldnt get another brand

Japan.
Not much in the way of supps here, & what little there is is way overpiced.

 

[wojo]

ever ask mike at 1fast about shipping?