EvoMuse Presents: DCP
- 06-03-2016, 12:13 PM
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06-03-2016, 12:25 PM
I've seen @dsade say that each of his products attack different mechanisms so they stack very well, together.
But I'm really curious if there's a cap on just how much fat our bodies will burn/eliminate in a single week, no matter how great and synergistic the products are.
Conventional "wisdom" is a healthy diet should get you about 2 lbs weight loss per week. Maybe 3 if you're "obese".
Brite gets you a bit more loss.
Epitome gets you a bit more loss.
Ammo gets you a bit more loss.
DCP gets you a bit more loss.
Is there really no practical limit before the body says it's just not going to burn any more fat?
Or, is it really possible to stack these products and start losing 5+ pounds a week?
06-03-2016, 12:43 PM
Especially as you get leaner, you'll realize just how much a couple pounds of fat really is (the visuals they used in science classes and stuff really help here). So your scale may not move much at all, but you can really see visual differences in terms of more veins, crisper striations, etc. That's been my experience, at least, when I get closer to that lower bf%.
06-03-2016, 01:22 PM
There isn't much research done on the upper limit of fat loss while dieting. The best we have are a few, basically starvation experiments.
And the majority of fat loss research is done on an obese population and not entirely applicable to AM members. Internal validity != external validity and all that.
06-03-2016, 01:30 PM
I think the advantage with these is that we do not have to eat as much of a deficit as we normally would to lose fat at a certain rate.
06-03-2016, 01:33 PM
06-03-2016, 01:36 PM
06-03-2016, 01:38 PM
Is there a practical limit where adding more of EvoMuse products stops burning even more fat (or building even more muscle)? Or, can we really stack the fat burning benefits beyond conventional wisdom, with each product actually doing more than before?
06-03-2016, 01:40 PM
06-03-2016, 01:43 PM
IOW, CONCEPTUALLY... if I'm on 3 EM products and eating 2000 calories caused me to lose 3 pounds a week, you're saying adding a fourth product might not cause me to lose 4 pounds a week, but might allow me to keep losing 3 pounds a week while eating 2500 calories?
Again, ignore the numbers. They're just there to illustrate a concept.
Is that what you're saying? And, @dsade, what do you say?
06-03-2016, 01:46 PM
06-03-2016, 01:58 PM
Simply put, I think most supplements shine the best during a recomp scenario. If you're cutting, you're gonna lose fat. If you're bulking, you're gonna gain muscle. The idea of these supplements from my POV is to "optimize" your body to do both at the same time. That's how I treat them these days, or I start doing stacks when I'm on a deadline of some sort (beach event, etc)
06-03-2016, 01:59 PM
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06-03-2016, 04:51 PM
BTW, I'm currently on Epitome and Brite (and ThermoGum). Started last week. I just received Defuse and will be ordering DCP. Matt had also recommended Ammo so I'll probably do that with the DCP order.
All I was asking is whether or not taking all these products at once has more fat burning/muscle building benefits than fewer of them.
06-03-2016, 04:54 PM
And yes, they should theoretically help you. They all attack different dysfunctions/pathways to help you burn fat if you're in a good caloric deficit.
06-03-2016, 04:56 PM
That said, it's not necessary to make good progress. There are times I take more and less, but I also wouldn't lose sleep over paying my rent and not taking an extra supp lol.
I guess my point is just that I don't feel it's overkill in the sense that it won't help; but don't feel like we are saying you have to do it by any means.
06-03-2016, 05:18 PM
But, I'd like to get down to a 38" waist. I'd like to wear a swimsuit and not have lumps of fat rolling down my waist band. And, I'd like to have decent enough muscles to be functionally strong.
I want people to look at me and be surprised I'm 55.
I know no one is telling me I have to use all the products. And for now, I can afford a couple months of whatever will help.
But, I'm looking for real, noticeable help. I don't want to spend $50 for a 1% improvement in my efforts. So, that's where I've been trying to go with my questioning.
06-03-2016, 05:42 PM
I'd also throw in some Forskolin at 100mg as well.
06-03-2016, 05:46 PM
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