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Zac effron on steroids

Yea his last movie was neighbors 2 and he was bigger but this is the movie he's doing after neighbors 2 and he is ridiculously leaner and bigger like wow!
 
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BlockBuilder said:
Zacs before pic I wonder what these guys runInvalid Link Removed
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He was much younger there. Not that big of a difference, not one that would require gear to be done. He isn't much bigger so much as a few % leaner and is partially flexed in his new pics. Either way he looks good for a thin muscular guy. Props to him however he went about doing it.
 
MrKleen73 said:
He was much younger there. Not that big of a difference, not one that would require gear to be done. He isn't much bigger so much as a few % leaner and is partially flexed in his new pics. Either way he looks good for a thin muscular guy. Props to him however he went about doing it.
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The difference is actually pretty damn big man but I need to get out of this thread and stop judging Zach Efron
 
youngbrah said:
The difference is actually pretty damn big man but I need to get out of this thread and stop judging Zach Efron
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Like 5-ish lbs new muscle mass and 5lbs less fat. Far from a gear required transformation though is my point. He showed pictured that were years apart and used it as the reason to say he was on gear. I just don't see that big of a change going from a 20 something to 30 something year old man who works out those are far from unreasonable natty gains. You are gong to thicken up just from becoming a man. They call that man weight. The transformation is great but I just don't see the "Zac Efron on steroids" part of it.
 
He's been training with Dwayne Johnson and he's maintains an increasingly large and vascular hormone free physique. Maybe he's taking tips from Zac cause he's seemingly got "an edge" on a lot of natural guys.
 
T-Bone said:
Also just read he put on 18 pounds of muscle. Not five....So there is that. Eighteen pounds of LBM isn't something you do naturally is what 3 or 4 months?.
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I can't imagine him having actually gained 18 lbs of muscle for this role with the physique he already has had since he was a teenager. He sure doesn't look like he gained 18 lbs of muscle. Unless he put a good bit of it on his legs. Not saying he isn't juicing but on the same note an already fit guy who can dedicate several hours a day to his workout, recovery, and has all his meals prepped and ready for him could make the same transformation as well.
David Dunn you know the Rock is all Natty!!! :)
T-Bone said:
Then how do you explain "The Solution"?
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Who / What?
 
I can bet that 80% of male actors who need to 'bulk up' for a role will do it with some sort of PED, I mean we all know you don't put on 10lb+ of LEAN MUSCLE in a 6month window... hell you would be hard pushed to do it in 12months.. probably even not.
 
Still a *******
 
What are you guys talking about? The Rock is natty. Mike O'Hearn told me personally.
 
BamBam0319 said:
What are you guys talking about? The Rock is natty. Mike O'Hearn told me personally.
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No way "Titan" would ever use gear! He is all natty and an American Gladiator, watch your tongue! :)
 
Does it matter?

Let's say he did...Now what?

Or let's say he didn't... Now what?

What difference does it matter if he did it didn't use steroids?
 
People envy and excuse away his insane work ethic as a steroid facilitated achievement.

They explain away their lack of achievement as a purest whose not wanting to use steroids when in actuality it's their lack of discipline that is their greatest hindrance to achieving said physique.

They feel better about their mediocrity afterwards.

Or not... ;)
 
JudoJosh said:
Does it matter?

Let's say he did...Now what?

Or let's say he didn't... Now what?

What difference does it matter if he did it didn't use steroids?
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He Did, now what -- he looks good and made some millions for doing it.
He Didn't - he looks good and made some millions for doing it.

It really doesn't make a difference if he did or not. However it is a sad state of affairs when someone with an attainable physique makes some gains that the first accusation is of his likely steroid use. Like it could not be done without them.

David Dunn said:
People envy and excuse away his insane work ethic as a steroid facilitated achievement.

They explain away their lack of achievement as a purest whose not wanting to use steroids when in actuality it's their lack of discipline that is their greatest hindrance to achieving said physique.

They feel better about their mediocrity afterwards.

Or not... ;)
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BOOM!!!!! I think this is right for most people.
 
David Dunn said:
People envy and excuse away his insane work ethic as a steroid facilitated achievement.

They explain away their lack of achievement as a purest whose not wanting to use steroids when in actuality it's their lack of discipline that is their greatest hindrance to achieving said physique.

They feel better about their mediocrity afterwards.

Or not... ;)
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This is what I suspect is the real reason behind steroid accusations. An attempt to justify their lack of progress or unwillingness to do the work needed.
 
David Dunn said:
low dose Tren masteron and winstrol IMHO

He's training with Dwayne Johnson
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If Dwayne has anything to do with it then it is likely you are right. If that fool isn't on the tren train I don't know who is! However I still think most people see something attainable that requires hard work and assume that somebody cheated to get there.
 
If you saw zac in the lucky one you see what he achieved naturally from a bulk. This is a completely different transformation with not an ounce of fat gained he went from what he looked like in the neighbors 2 gained a great amount of lean mass and no fat whatsoever. He actually got leaner. In the timeframe of a few months or so that's just not possible. You can see photos of Zacs natural bulk for the lucky one. Being a natural it's not impressive. It's what's realistic and what to expect from a natural lifter. This is him in neighbors 2 his last movie to thisInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
 
BlockBuilder said:
If you saw zac in the lucky one you see what he achieved naturally from a bulk. This is a completely different transformation with not an ounce of fat gained he went from what he looked like in the neighbors 2 gained a great amount of lean mass and no fat whatsoever. He actually got leaner. In the timeframe of a few months or so that's just not possible. You can see photos of Zacs natural bulk for the lucky one. Being a natural it's not impressive. It's what's realistic and what to expect from a natural lifter. This is him in neighbors 2 his last movie to this
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Sadly the incomprehensible grammar you have makes it quite difficult to understand for certain the point in what you said.
 
he looks natural to me.he has world class food and trainers.it would be sad for him as young as he is to run dht hormones and testosterone along with estro....you get the point.he is small id assume he is just someone who enjoys lifting and trains hard
 
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