WTF Happened to Jack3d?!?

Oh i went back and looked, your rite USP never changes anything in thier products.

Lyfespan, being confrontational with a stranger on the internet is really the least of my priorities at this point. You perceive a difference in the product, I am recognizing the validity of your subjective experience, and am in turn disagreeing on an objective basis.

Whether or not you accept that, and whether or not you continue to choose to be antagonistic is really none of my concern. But as I said, bickering with snide comments is very low on my list of things to do.
 
Lyfespan, being confrontational with a stranger on the internet is really the least of my priorities at this point. You perceive a difference in the product, I am recognizing the validity of your subjective experience, and am in turn disagreeing on an objective basis.

Whether or not you accept that, and whether or not you continue to choose to be antagonistic is really none of my concern. But as I said, bickering with snide comments is very low on my list of things to do.
whatever, its frustrating dealing with all the non company reps, and we all know that jacked wuz reformulated. A few reps even disclosed that yes a few things were switched around. But then theres people like you, just ridinng the bandwagon, and denying thing that you didnt even know had been disclosed.


There are several threads that i have read with this same arguement in it and they said that jacked had been reformulated for the meet general publics requests.


I.E.

reduction in the beta alanine
reduction in geranium oil
and there wuz one other ingredient
OH and didnt JAcked used to fizz, or am i wrong again, bcuz they didnt change the formula.

And we wont get into why all the products were held up in customs in 2008-2009


It really doesn't matter to me I had to get a new pre werkout, and just went with my own mix. I just dont like it when companies lieto the the public, even if its omitting the truth.

We all know the USP crowd stands behind USP, till they try other products, I started out the same way. Loved the asteroid stack, till all the changes.
 
whatever, its frustrating dealing with all the non company reps, and we all know that jacked wuz reformulated. A few reps even disclosed that yes a few things were switched around. But then theres people like you, just ridinng the bandwagon, and denying thing that you didnt even know had been disclosed.


There are several threads that i have read with this same arguement in it and they said that jacked had been reformulated for the meet general publics requests.


I.E.

reduction in the beta alanine

reduction in geranium oil
and there wuz one other ingredient
OH and didnt JAcked used to fizz, or am i wrong again, bcuz they didnt change the formula.

And we wont get into why all the products were held up in customs in 2008-2009


It really doesn't matter to me I had to get a new pre werkout, and just went with my own mix. I just dont like it when companies lieto the the public, even if its omitting the truth.

We all know the USP crowd stands behind USP, till they try other products, I started out the same way. Loved the asteroid stack, till all the changes.

Lyfespan, while you are either unwilling or incapable of reading my comments prior in the thread, I addressed all those issues. And indeed, I advised on the "reformulation," so your commentary as to "riding the bandwagon" is both ignorant and ill-informed. It did give me a chuckle, though.

I am a Vice President with the company, not part of the "USP crowd," so your comments here are certainly misplaced. I have seen a multitude of batch records and COAs for JACK3D's finished product specifications and raw materials since its inception, though based on your confidence, I will assume you have as well. Despite clarifying earlier in the thread, I will review again here:

There was an increase, not a decrease, in the Beta Alanine, Creatine, and AAKG matrix - this would not produce any difference to the subjective experience of stimulation. And there was, in turn, a reduction in the sodium bicarbonate content due to copyright issues - again, not producing even a nominal alteration in the feeling of stimulation. Finally, theophylline was replaced with theomobrine. If you are capable of perceiving the replacement of one xanthine with another, than kudos to you.

Now, as I have said, I addressed these concerns prior in the thread, and also discussed the time-line of the changes, and how they do not cohere with reports. What I mean by, "the same formula" being on the shelves on NP, is this: these changes occurred quite some time ago - and the most recent reports of "non-response" have cropped up within the last month. The chronology of events does not fit, and that stands true for almost every report in this thread.

If you will excuse me, though, the bandwagon is pulling away. :usa:
 
If you will excuse me, though, the bandwagon is pulling away. :usa:

Yes, the bandwagon and I are going to have to take a day and have 2-3 scoops of Jack3d with my workout tomorrow. I can't take it anymore, all this talk about one of the best pre-workouts ever has forced me to take it again, man I am upset tomorrows workout is going to be so good... so not part of my plan (I could use a day off of AS-GT anyways, it is my other favorite btw). Hopefully the "new" formula won't let me down.

Please people, do you pick fights just to be a bb.com keyboard ninja for a day? Grow up, AM is better than that, don't bring it down. If you don't like Jack3d, get something else; that is easiest way to express your opinion because it puts no money in USP's pocket. Me on the other hand, will always recommend Jack3d to anyone looking for a pwo that never fails. :fing02: This is like people talking about how AP and Prime don't work... find a new hobby.
 
i was lucky to buy one of the original jacked 3d and it was by far the best preworkout but then I got the new formula and that was the last time U ever ordered it.
 
Lyfespan, being confrontational with a stranger on the internet is really the least of my priorities at this point. You perceive a difference in the product, I am recognizing the validity of your subjective experience, and am in turn disagreeing on an objective basis.

Whether or not you accept that, and whether or not you continue to choose to be antagonistic is really none of my concern. But as I said, bickering with snide comments is very low on my list of things to do.

Okay, this really had me laughing out loud!!! Can't wait to go and lift today with my favorite pre-workout supplement...Jack3d.
 
I am 100% sure USPLabs is trying to kill us with the pricing of Jack3d. $28 on Nutra and even $30 at VitaminShoppe. O.O

Jack3d Anonymous anyone?
 
Not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but , the most important thing to remember with BA is to take it on an empty stomach!

every time ive taken it on an empty stomach, i get the tingles and a rush. but when i eat food any time close to taking BA, i feel nothing.
 
Go with Pre surge unleashed. You will like it every time and every time.
 
If you will excuse me, though, the bandwagon is pulling away. :usa:

wait for me!:drive:

Yes, the bandwagon and I are going to have to take a day and have 2-3 scoops of Jack3d with my workout tomorrow. I can't take it anymore, all this talk about one of the best pre-workouts ever has forced me to take it again, man I am upset tomorrows workout is going to be so good... so not part of my plan (I could use a day off of AS-GT anyways, it is my other favorite btw). Hopefully the "new" formula won't let me down.

Please people, do you pick fights just to be a bb.com keyboard ninja for a day? Grow up, AM is better than that, don't bring it down. If you don't like Jack3d, get something else; that is easiest way to express your opinion because it puts no money in USP's pocket. Me on the other hand, will always recommend Jack3d to anyone looking for a pwo that never fails. :fing02: This is like people talking about how AP and Prime don't work... find a new hobby.

i know right quit bitchin :gives:
 
Is Jack3d really that good? I never used pwo supps before but this thread is really making me wanna try it.

What's the benefits.. load of energy to work out intensely? any others?
And would a GNC or a vitamin shop have it?
 
Is Jack3d really that good? I never used pwo supps before but this thread is really making me wanna try it.

What's the benefits.. load of energy to work out intensely? any others?
And would a GNC or a vitamin shop have it?

it's a good energy boost no crash just a nice smooth ride good for keeping endurance through your workout gnc or the shoppe have it but you'll over pay get it from nutraplanet for like $27 bucks
 
it's a good energy boost no crash just a nice smooth ride good for keeping endurance through your workout gnc or the shoppe have it but you'll over pay get it from nutraplanet for like $27 bucks
You are forgetting the about $6 charge for shipping and handling and also the waiting time. From what I can tell it's $30/31 at VS/GNC and that requires only a drive to a nearby store.

Nutra has it initially cheaper, but in the end they make up for it. :P
 
You are forgetting the about $6 charge for shipping and handling and also the waiting time. From what I can tell it's $30/31 at VS/GNC and that requires only a drive to a nearby store.

Nutra has it initially cheaper, but in the end they make up for it. :P
$31 on sale at gnc after taxes it's prolly about the same but only cause it's on sale besides I'd rather give my $ to nutraplanet but that's just me :)
 
I finally got around to trying the Lemon Lime flavor. I was a bit skeptical at first having a sour flavor for such a product, since they usually already have a hint of sour flavor. But this, damn, delicious as hell. I might even add that the flavor seems a tad nicer than the Fruit Punch one, I guess not as sweet. But the kick, haha, oh it is there. Three scoops is a nice kick in the face, awake and ready. Heck, even only two scoops feels very nice. It's like a ecstasy roller coaster.

Makes you really want to run or have sex. Kind of hitting a dilema there. :/
 
I'm still using the original jacked as in inner circle release! I have not gottin to try any of the newer jacked but 1 scoop of the OG is great
 
Sure, if you want to pay the proportionate increase in production costs from the increased plastic, increased paper, increased time, increased transportation costs, etc. There is a reason why JACK3D is substantially cheaper than 90% of everything else on the market.

No idea what you mean by the proportions comment! :fest30:
Couldn't agree more. So many times you see a pre-workout and the tub looks like it could hold 5lbs of whey. When you get home you open the lid only to see the powder only fills about 40% (maybe) of the container. I will take the little Jack3d every time.
 
Couldn't agree more. So many times you see a pre-workout and the tub looks like it could hold 5lbs of whey. When you get home you open the lid only to see the powder only fills about 40% (maybe) of the container. I will take the little Jack3d every time.

Also it takes up so little room in my cabinet, no complaints about that!
 
same thing happen to me, but i was tingly and felt good for about 3 weeks.. then nothing, i went to 3-4 scoops to..
 
same thing happen to me, but i was tingly and felt good for about 3 weeks.. then nothing, i went to 3-4 scoops to..

The parasthesia (tingling) from the Beta Alanine normally subsides over time. The degree to which parasthesia diminishes varies from person to person. For some, it goes away completely, for others, it only diminishes, then there are people like myself who are hyper-sensitive to paraesthesia and I can't take BA at all and the tingling never diminishes.
 
The parasthesia (tingling) from the Beta Alanine normally subsides over time. The degree to which parasthesia diminishes varies from person to person. For some, it goes away completely, for others, it only diminishes, then there are people like myself who are hyper-sensitive to paraesthesia and I can't take BA at all and the tingling never diminishes.
The "tingling" would usually cease upon saturation of endogenous carnosine stores.
 
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