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Winter Bulker: HMMMMMMM?????

Clips, I vaguely remember some real negatives to nolva. For one, it is hepatoxic. But I think there is more to it.
 
Dang i didnt know it was hepatoxic, i guess we learn somethin new everyday.

What about RXT, i know it can take shots at the lipid panel as well.

Im not trying to hijack ur thread Beo but in my make beleive story land, my character is supposed to start a cycle, about 14 or so weeks long with test e, deca, and test prop, he very sensative to gyno, which is why i ask this cause id like to run something the minute i notice anything getting bigger or anything outa the norm. Also Doc would you rec Vit B6 for progesterone sides and prolactin issues associated with deca at about 200-300 mgs a day? Sorry Beo im not tryin to jack ur thread, but i figured while ive got the Doc here, might as well take a few stabs in the way of questions.

Off to do some cardio!
 
Yeh nolva is hepatoxic, letro wrecks the lipids, clomid fixes the lipids, where does it end? Arimidex is supposed to be good...
 
It all comes down to balancing out how we minimize the sides. If letro wrecks lipids, that may be another good reason for Dr. D's reccommendation of low dosing.
 
My main concern for me while "on" is keeping my gyno and prolactin levels at bay. I mean if my BP and stuff starts going all haywire then i find ways to remedy it, but my main concern while on is my gyno flare ups and prolactin levels.

Good luck though Beo, sounds like a well planned cycle. I wish people would follow my cycles or logs.
I tried to make a log following up to my upcoming cycle and nobody posted. LOL

Ill make another log though when i finally hop on. So maybe that will entrigue everyone. We shall see!
 
Prolactin = fixed by cabergoline
Progesterone = fixed by bromocriptine

Those are the 2 more difficult ancillaries to get. Just adding that in here just because it's good info I was looking up today. ;)
 
Grunt76 said:
Prolactin = fixed by cabergoline
Progesterone = fixed by bromocriptine

Those are the 2 more difficult ancillaries to get. Just adding that in here just because it's good info I was looking up today. ;)
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Yea i know i need those, but if i can use something else to battle those sides then id get something else. Idk, im waitin for Dr. D to chime in here.

Sorry Beo im not tryin to jack ur thread bro!
 
Hijack away, this is an info gathering thread. I'll run a log in the cycles section when I start this.
 
Beowulf said:
Hijack away, this is an info gathering thread. I'll run a log in the cycles section when I start this.
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Thanks bro i appreciate it! I sure will follow the log as well, ill be posting my own log too when i eventually start my cycle.
 
3clipseGT said:
Dang i didnt know it was hepatoxic, i guess we learn somethin new everyday.

What about RXT, i know it can take shots at the lipid panel as well.

Im not trying to hijack ur thread Beo but in my make beleive story land, my character is supposed to start a cycle, about 14 or so weeks long with test e, deca, and test prop, he very sensative to gyno, which is why i ask this cause id like to run something the minute i notice anything getting bigger or anything outa the norm. Also Doc would you rec Vit B6 for progesterone sides and prolactin issues associated with deca at about 200-300 mgs a day? Sorry Beo im not tryin to jack ur thread, but i figured while ive got the Doc here, might as well take a few stabs in the way of questions.

Off to do some cardio!
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I'd use letro for the cycle your character described. If you keep the dose low, estrogen is only controlled and not totally destroyed. Lipids will be OK and rebound will not occur, but gyno is always controlled. I've used it with high dose test cycles for years now and it's got a 100% record for gyno control with me. RXT may help maintain test levels a bit better, I'm currently using it as my only gyno control to see how it compares.

Be careful with high dose B6, it's a nerve toxin and combines poorly with MAOI. Don't do >100mg/d doses for more than a few weeks straight. Permax is the best prolactin inhibitor I've used, but the others mentioned work as well. Black Cohosh or Vitex are probably the 2 best OTC 'progestin gyno' cures that I am aware of.

Nolva is a bad choice IMO due to the hepatotoxicity that others have mentioned. Plus, if you use it on cycle, it seems to me to be much less effective during PCT.
 
DR.D said:
I'd use letro for the cycle your character described. If you keep the dose low, estrogen is only controlled and not totally destroyed. Lipids will be OK and rebound will not occur, but gyno is always controlled. I've used it with high dose test cycles for years now and it's got a 100% record for gyno control with me. RXT may help maintain test levels a bit better, I'm currently using it as my only gyno control to see how it compares.

Be careful with high dose B6, it's a nerve toxin and combines poorly with MAOI. Don't do >100mg/d doses for more than a few weeks straight. Permax is the best prolactin inhibitor I've used, but the others mentioned work as well. Black Cohosh or Vitex are probably the 2 best OTC 'progestin gyno' cures that I am aware of.

Nolva is a bad choice IMO due to the hepatotoxicity that others have mentioned. Plus, if you use it on cycle, it seems to me to be much less effective during PCT.
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Thanks Dr. D always helping a brother out! So letro for gyno eh? Sounds good to me. This may be a very stupid question, but Nutra wouldnt have vitex would they? Where would i purchase this at? Walgreens, wally world? Like ive said before i just dont wanna have my nipples being like an utter where they just milk with a little squeeze! LOL

Thanks though Dr. D!
 
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