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Will test make me lean out any?

Cwaynemash

Cwaynemash

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2nd week into 12 week test cyp cycle(600mg a week). I'm wanting to get bigger but also want to lose my belly! Lol. My time is very limited so I can only get cardio in after my workouts & "empty stomach morning" cardio in twice a week. Question is if I hit the weights hard like I've been doing & then do my cardio(moderate 20-30min) 3xweek & a couple early morning ones will I still make awesome muscle gains? Or will I b burning my muscle up? Also my diet is I'm check. Any advice & help would be appeticiated. Thanks
 
A recomp is not the specialty of test by itself, what you could do is truly make sure your diet is in check (high protien, proper pre/intra/post workout nutrition), and use a timed carb approach to when you eat your carbs. Lifting hard and recovering properly are key as well. You could also consider a non-stim cutter like tt-33 or shift to help keep the fat off/go away. Test alone can be used as a base for cutting, but is not ideal alone for it.

Also: do NOT attempt to cut at ALL during your PCT, it is the easiest way to lose your gains.

ManBeast
 
I'm on the 4 the week of my test e cycle so its just now kicking into gear. I have a bit if a beer belly I put on during the holidays that I'm trying to lose during cycle. Ive added 20-30 minutes cardio to the end of my workout plus 6 3 minute rounds switching from heavy bag to Jump rope every other round. That and my diet is on point and I do no carbs after 7. I can now see the shadow of my upper four pack and my belly has started to flatten out. More noticeable in the last week alone. I started at 220lbs and now weigh 227lbs. So im burning fat and gaining muscle mass. But like I said this is only the middle of week 4 so I doubt much of the results can be attributed to the the cycle. But who knows
 
Thanks for the reply- gonna continue my cardio & see how I'm looking @ week 4.. Can't wait to feel the full effects of this test- will post pics later & keep y'all updated throughout my cycle
 
Cwaynemash said:
Thanks for the reply- gonna continue my cardio & see how I'm looking @ week 4.. Can't wait to feel the full effects of this test- will post pics later & keep y'all updated throughout my cycle
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This is my first test cycle as well so I'm not sure fully what to expect and not to. I just give it my all and try for the best for me and don't leave the gym til I'm satisfied I got an exceptional workout in. So far im pretty positive I'm going to get what I want out of this and I think that's the attitude you have carry to achieve what you want. I don't set goals cus that's an end point, I just make sure I keep moving forward;-)
 
Sure it is good for cutting
 
I never said it wasn't, its just not ideal on its own for that IMHO.

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
I never said it wasn't, its just not ideal on its own for that IMHO.

ManBeast
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I wasn't debating what you said, I was just giving my current results on it I'm experiencing.
 
Anything androgenic can help you lean out, but with test you'll probably hold some water while on, and notice the most dramatic change in that regard when you are off/done with PCT.

ManBeast
 
It is beneficial to the joints for sure.

ManBeast
 
Test is not really good for causing fat loss, but depends on how you respond, some people are more sensitive to the estrogen from having such high test levels and they will hold a lot of water and the estrogen will only encourage fat gain. Some people (a minority I think) get that spontaneous leaning effect from test, but it is probably more dependent on modulating your estrogen levels on cycle than anything else.
 
Wtf where have you been machine
 
Wtf where u come from unreal?
I agree and disagree with unreal machine
Here why- there are androgen receptors in adipose tissue meaning when testosterone binds to those receptors it DOES induce fat loss.
However he is 100% right about estrogen so I gues I do agree as long as estrogen is in check then yeah it will
 
Yes you see how there are two variables combating each other there, one inducing fat loss, and then estrogen being pro-fat/bloat. So it comes down to how you respond, and how you control estrogen on cycle.
 
ManBeast said:
It is beneficial to the joints for sure.

ManBeast
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Thats fine with me. I've had ALOT of injuries threw skateboarding, fighting,motorcycle accidents and being clumsy as shlt over the years and sometimes one wrong twist or turn will fuk one of my joints up for weeks. Seems I'm always training around one injury or another :-(
 
UnrealMachine said:
Yes you see how there are two variables combating each other there, one inducing fat loss, and then estrogen being pro-fat/bloat. So it comes down to how you respond, and how you control estrogen on cycle.
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But say for instance in TRT cases. Some of the symptoms I've read of having low T include gaining extra bf particularly in the waist section? So for any reason testosterone levels are elevated wouldn't that aid in fat loss regardless, to some extent at least with or without exercise? Of course with physical activity being more beneficial .
 
^ to an extent yes and also no low t does cause fat gain a trt dose of test is anywhere from 100-150mgs a week roughly (I'm on 200) that usually brings test back to optimal ranges this helping with fat loss howeve of test is administered any higher like typical 500mg doses then thats supra physiological so no your logic does not add up as the heightened test induces heightened estrogen which in turn promotes fat gain
 
I'll say that when I was told not to work, or workout, or do much of anything for 6 months or so while they figured out what to do with me when I had my heart issue about 7 years ago.....I of course got fatter, I made sure to minimize it.....but being sedentary and not having the best foods available much of the time, that happens. So when I was able to start working out with lighter weights and things like that again, even though I was totally not supposed to use anything, I had a bunch of test leftover.....so against advice I used it and was able to reduce my fat immensely .....but test always helped me to get leaner and more cut.....not so much for adding muscle, I had to look to other things for that. So maybe as already stated it works differently for different people....
 
UnrealMachine said:
Yes you see how there are two variables combating each other there, one inducing fat loss, and then estrogen being pro-fat/bloat. So it comes down to how you respond, and how you control estrogen on cycle.
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Test should help him keep as much muscle mass as possible during his cutting phase, maybe even gain a little muscle while cutting.
 
All in all I like the simplicity of a test e cycle, and up until now it seems to be going well. if I end up getting respectable/impressive to myself results then I'd love for it to be the thing I need to cycle when I do, but that may be wishful thinking. If I can stay a minimalist I will but sometimes I get nutty ideas and images in my head of what I want next and take educated chances ;-)
 
a TRT dose will help vs. low test, however as you dose higher estrogen becomes more of an issue and estrogen promotes fat gain and water retention.
 
mikeg313 said:
This is my first test cycle as well so I'm not sure fully what to expect and not to. I just give it my all and try for the best for me and don't leave the gym til I'm satisfied I got an exceptional workout in. So far im pretty positive I'm going to get what I want out of this and I think that's the attitude you have carry to achieve what you want. I don't set goals cus that's an end point, I just make sure I keep moving forward;-)
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i'm about to be in the same boat as you dude. gonna run test e and eq. first time pinning or running real gear. had to cut my last cycle short due to an injury. (again). looking forward to it
 
mikeg313 said:
Thats fine with me. I've had ALOT of injuries threw skateboarding, fighting,motorcycle accidents and being clumsy as shlt over the years and sometimes one wrong twist or turn will fuk one of my joints up for weeks. Seems I'm always training around one injury or another :-(
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me too. it sucks. i was just running a cycle af andromass and protomax and was hit by a car while cycling and fcuked up my shoulder. had to stop the cycle and start pct. i fcuked my back up on cycle a while back and had to do the same. i'm the same way, accident prone as hell. sucks.
 
Remind me to never cross the street with you :D

All kidding aside, that sucks man, and I'm sorry that you've had to abort 2 cycles early.

ManBeast
 
Unless yur doin a comp jus dont erry about teying to cut but keep yur diet extra clean and save the ai unless yu develope gyno. Yu automatically lean out if yu pct the right way
 
During a bulker, cardio should be kept to a minimium and low intensity. Anything high intensity (even HIIT IMHO) has a chance of jeapordizing gains.

ManBeast
 
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