Buffspartan
Active member
What is the the strongest, wildest and most mood enhancing pre you've ever tried. Tired of all the run of the mill stuff that gives a moderate energy boost at best. I something real, like borderline recreational! Ok go!
Wildest Pre-workout supp
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nicksox15
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Hypermax at two scoops would definitely give you a huge energy boost. Most don't need to go over a scoop and a half. Even at one scoop focus is laser like, and with no crash!
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/249588-hypermax-40-servings.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/249588-hypermax-40-servings.html
Young Gotti
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stimu8 for wild energy...not sure i'd say it enhanced my mood
i've mentioned in other threads that iforce conquer makes me feel good, a tad agressive but focused
however the best mood boost is leaving work and getting in the car knowing i'm done and going to the gym
i've mentioned in other threads that iforce conquer makes me feel good, a tad agressive but focused
however the best mood boost is leaving work and getting in the car knowing i'm done and going to the gym
Adizzle1
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HyperMax is quite the experience
Choline + AMP Citrate(1,3 DMBA) + Phenyethylamine HCL + Hordenine HCL creates some very powerful mood enhancing and hyper focus effect
Higenamine HCL + Alpha-Yo + Caffeine provides some very intense, strong and long lasting energy
Also for 2 scoops your getting 3g Creatine, 3.2g Beta-Alanine, 1g Agmatine so more then just a energy product.
Choline + AMP Citrate(1,3 DMBA) + Phenyethylamine HCL + Hordenine HCL creates some very powerful mood enhancing and hyper focus effect
Higenamine HCL + Alpha-Yo + Caffeine provides some very intense, strong and long lasting energy
Also for 2 scoops your getting 3g Creatine, 3.2g Beta-Alanine, 1g Agmatine so more then just a energy product.
Contaygious
Active member
Craze got me high. I gave it to a druggie and it blew him away
Spaniard
Well-known member
That's because it had amphetamines in it.
Contaygious
Active member
Yeah hence the ban. I can't believe I took that. Much rather take prejym or conq3r!
grizzly237
New member
Man Gameday, white heat,
SwolenONE
Board Sponsor
Damn, I am very familiar with AlphaMax but hadnt seen the profile on this one.
VERY impressive, most products take the approach of top notch stims or efficacious dosages or ergogens. Good to see both in one formula.
Driven2lift
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Another vote for conqu3r, one of the best profiles available right now and 20% off with the code OLYMPUS20
Another vote for conqu3r, one of the best profiles available right now and 20% off with the code OLYMPUS20
Buffspartan
Active member
Almost just **** myself when I saw the amount of AMP Citrate in Conqu3r...wow!! I'm pretty sure that would kill a small child. I've never really been crazy about creatine so that might be a dealbreaker for me. Hypermax and Stimul8 look good to! I will do my research and get something soon! Definitely leaning towards something with AMP Citrate in it
AntM1564
Legend
Thanks for the kind words.
I know I am pretty stim tolerant naturally and 1.5 scoops gets me through my workout and then some. On days I work before I train and am lagging extremely, 2 scoops makes me feel like a completely new person and it tastes pretty good as well. If you look through the reviews, users report great focus and energy even at a single scoop.
Spaniard
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So lower your dose
it'll last longer and you asked for a pre with effective amounts. CONQU3R is your answer. Why would one of the most proven effective and safe supplements to date be a deal breaker?FireRescue
Active member
I really like the profile, however I am pretty sensitive to stims and don't need much to get a good boost. I wish the stim dosing was a little lighter and/or a stim free version was available.
packers6211
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Adizzle1
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Thanks for the love brother!
HyperMax has been overlooked recently as there has been some really good pre workout releases. HyperMax will give INSANE energy and easily compete with the top full stim pre workouts, however as you mentioned on the other hand we provide full clinical doses of proven ingreidents like MCC/CM, Beta-Alanine, Agmatine and Choline!
If your leaning towards AMP Citrate def. look into HyperMax as although HyperMax uses a big dose of AMP Citrate we also included other ingredients that curb its negative side effects. With your generall AMP + Caffeine product youll most likely notice three things 1.) Great Energy 2.) Nasty Crash and 3.) Building tollerance FAST. HyperMax has completely eliminated any feeling of a crash and people have commented staying at 1 scoop for over a month without feeling the need to increase the dose!
Thanks for the support brother!
Olympus Labs
Well-known member
Conqu3r has nice clean smooth energy but the profile and cumulative usage of it is what makes it shine.
Spaniard
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I'll just leave this here:
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Here is what you get with CONQU3R:
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If you're looking for something with AMP Citrate there's no comparison. If you're not specifically looking for something with AMP but want a pre that's going to knock your socks off stim wise and deliver an unparalleled pump, that's it. No prop blends, more ingredients per serving, not one reported crash, in fact, many reports to the contrary.
Whichever you choose is cool my man and good luck to you. Train hard!
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Here is what you get with CONQU3R:
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If you're looking for something with AMP Citrate there's no comparison. If you're not specifically looking for something with AMP but want a pre that's going to knock your socks off stim wise and deliver an unparalleled pump, that's it. No prop blends, more ingredients per serving, not one reported crash, in fact, many reports to the contrary.
Whichever you choose is cool my man and good luck to you. Train hard!
Adizzle1
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As you can see by the comparison, HyperMax stimulant complex is insane and touches down on multiple aspects of pre workout feeling including increased mood, focus, drive and intense energy!
Conquer is a great product and if your looking more for 5g Creatine and really strong pumps it would def be your best bet!
HyperMax is amazing as well and if your looking more for strong energy, mood elevation and focus the HyperMax would be your best bet IMO!!
Spaniard
Well-known member
It's a proprietary blend "as you can see by the comparison our stimulant complex..." holds no weight and a comparison can't be made. The only thing that can be assumed (minimums) is that there is 98 mg per serving of caffeine, 97 mg of AMP and so on. It also requires 2 servings to get to any of the clinical doses mentioned earlier, which would bring us to (minimums) 196 mg caffeine and 195 of AMP (I rounded decimals lol). I'm sure there's more but either way due to the prop blend we can't be certain. What you can be certain of is that there is 300 mg caffeine and 350 mg AMP Citrate in our transparent formula.
I wasn't looking to get into a long drawn out debate. I'm sure Hypermax is a great preworkout, it seems to have a good following. I just wanted to make clear that the aforementioned "crash" that you eluded to is not and has not been a problem with CONQU3R in any of our feedback thus far. You also can't claim a superior stimulant formula with more of any ingredient when it is in a proprietary blend.
I wasn't looking to get into a long drawn out debate. I'm sure Hypermax is a great preworkout, it seems to have a good following. I just wanted to make clear that the aforementioned "crash" that you eluded to is not and has not been a problem with CONQU3R in any of our feedback thus far. You also can't claim a superior stimulant formula with more of any ingredient when it is in a proprietary blend.
goodvibes
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Hahaha that made me lol
Buffspartan
Active member
Lmao, I love seeing all the reps trying to win me over with their arguments! It makes me feel like I have so much power! I like the Conqu3r because it has a huge amount of Amp Citrate and Caffeine, but it does have a little too much creatine for my chronically ill kidneys to take. The Hypermax on the other hand has many more stims in it including 2 different PEA derivatives, but at smaller doses. The question is would a higher dose of 2 different types of stims win out against the cocktail of lowish dose stims in the Hypermax. I feel like I may have to use 1.5-2 scoops of the Hypermax if I get it because of the slightly weaker stim profile, but only half a scoop of the Conqu3r because of the high creatine dosage. Now at those doses it seems that the Hypermax would be better for energy....still the Conqu3r wins in the pump division. Hmm, I honestly don't know which one to pick!!
Buffspartan
Active member
I mean I could always try one of the other pre workouts with Acacia or Dendrobium in them, but still I'm really curious about Amp Citrate and I definitely want to try a pre that includes that particular ingredient before the FDA gets a hold of it because sooner or later they're gonna ban it.
Adizzle1
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Lets continue, next would be 96mg Hordenine per scoop, 95mg Higenamine per scoop and 94mg Alpha-Yohimbine per scoop
I don’t think anyone who knows anything about those stimulants would assume that…..
We cant be certain, but if you know the average doses of the above 3 stims you’ll be sure to find both caffeine n amp are higher than conquer per 2 scoops
You made statement saying No amp citrate product compares to Conquer and posted labels. Which in fact, HyperMax compares very nicely for his goals(very strong stim, mood & focus), using strong stimulants like Alpha-Yohimbine + Higeamine providing much stronger stimulation then just AMP + Caffeine while also using Hordenine + PEA for mood and focus etc. I think conquer is an awesome product, super well dosed and well-rounded however I also believe HyperMax easily compares to Conquer in terms energy, focus and mood
LiveToLift
Legend
I miss PES enhanced... That is all
goodvibes
Well-known member
OP you just have to try em all man. Start with the cheapest and see if you can get some free samples like expos. I have my goto pre and they're priced well. Once in awhile I might try something new and I always go back to what I know works for me. If it doesn't work then u never buy it again
Now stop your power trippin lol
Now stop your power trippin lol
nicksox15
Well-known member
Down to try a sample or two of Hypermax? Shoot me a PM and we'll get you squared away! That's really the only way you'll know which works best for you! Hell, you might like both of them alot and that's awesome too. There's room for more than one good PWO here
Buffspartan
Active member
Will do!
Buffspartan
Active member
Is it out yet though?
Spaniard
Well-known member
Like the other guys stated just have to try them out brother. Although if you do have underlying kidney issues I would steer clear of creatine
Spaniard
Well-known member
You said all that ^^^ all I read was prop blend haha!
This might be a good way to go.
You can also always create your own concoction. Grab a few stims in bulk and then grab something like High Volume and add it to it
Adizzle1
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Awesome either shoot your info to nick or email [email protected] and we will have samples sent out ASAP!
As well Island Supps has an amazing deal right now, 40 serv container for $24.99!!
Also a little birdie told me NP may be having a big sale on all performax product next week, keep your eyes pealed!!
Young Gotti
Well-known member
i have no doubt Max Out what the OP will be looking for from a pre, good energy, congnitive enhancement, and hydration...i can't wait to get my hands on it
cubsfan815
Well-known member
Best way is to try something out and see if you like it. We all live and learn. I use all kinds of pre's depending on my mood.
Hypermax at 1.5 scoops if I need huge energy burst.
WFR if I'm looking for milder stim, and that pineapple flavor!
High Volume for huge pumps, and non stim
Fitmax for cardio, working around house to sweat like mofo
Basically, there are plenty of great options.
Hypermax at 1.5 scoops if I need huge energy burst.
WFR if I'm looking for milder stim, and that pineapple flavor!
High Volume for huge pumps, and non stim
Fitmax for cardio, working around house to sweat like mofo
Basically, there are plenty of great options.
Afi140
Legend
yeah Hypermax delivers for sure. You can't beat the price on island right now either.
Spaniard
Well-known member
That's quite the setup man!
hiimnotcool
Member
controlled labs white flood reborn would be good too. plus its only like 25 dollars for 30 full servings. im planning on buying some when i get paid because i havent had a pre-workout in awhile. might also buy White Pump to mix in for some extra fun.
Buffspartan
Active member
I actually used to take White Flood Reborn at 1.5-2 scoops and while it was good, it wasn't great. Not like the old DMAA. pre workouts. That's the level of stim I'm after
AntM1564
Legend
You'll want to look into products that contain 1,3 DMBA or 1,3 dimethylbutylamine citrate which feels extremely similar to 1,3 DMAA.
Jiigzz
Legend
OP ever consider making your own? Or adding bulk products to an already established pre?
Conqu3r gets my vote for best all round pre-workout but because you want to avoid creatine and heavy stims, I would suggest buying a focus blend like Stim-free Focus XT, grabbing a bottle of caffeine tabs and dose as you need it
Or, buy Huperzine a + Caffeine + Choline bulk and add them to another low stim pre-workout.
Conqu3r gets my vote for best all round pre-workout but because you want to avoid creatine and heavy stims, I would suggest buying a focus blend like Stim-free Focus XT, grabbing a bottle of caffeine tabs and dose as you need it
Or, buy Huperzine a + Caffeine + Choline bulk and add them to another low stim pre-workout.
khwaj
New member
might try ampitropin (150mg caffeine, 300mg amp citrate, 100mg pica)
1 cap ampitropin + 1 serve of your usual pre is quite good enough
(dont recommend starting with 1 serve of mr hyde/white heat/etc first up)
like
1 scoop ritual + 1 cap ampitropin
1 scoop wfr + 1 cap ampitropin
1/2 scoop mr hyde + 1 cap ampitropin
etc
or if you really like amp citrate
2 cap ampitropin + hemavol
ive been adding 1 cap to my pre's and it has been an excellent combo
my favourite has been craze/ampi combo, but its not available anymore, unless you got some left over b4 ban lol
1 cap ampitropin + 1 serve of your usual pre is quite good enough
(dont recommend starting with 1 serve of mr hyde/white heat/etc first up)
like
1 scoop ritual + 1 cap ampitropin
1 scoop wfr + 1 cap ampitropin
1/2 scoop mr hyde + 1 cap ampitropin
etc
or if you really like amp citrate
2 cap ampitropin + hemavol
ive been adding 1 cap to my pre's and it has been an excellent combo
my favourite has been craze/ampi combo, but its not available anymore, unless you got some left over b4 ban lol
Spaniard
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Just wanted to update you real quick. We have reformulated CONQU3R which includes a stim free version, whether or not stimulant amounts have been lowered I can't say just yet but you can follow along here:
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I think you'll like what you see
LiveToLift
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How dare you do your duty as a rep and inform people of product changes!!!Just wanted to update you real quick. We have reformulated CONQU3R which includes a stim free version, whether or not stimulant amounts have been lowered I can't say just yet but you can follow along here: Invalid Link Removed I think you'll like what you see
Me needs some!!