I was reading and Built claims it’s “Anavar like results”
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Yeah, that's what I thought. 50mg per serving (3 caps).
Yeah I knew my original didn’t make sense!Yeah, that's what I thought. 50mg per serving (3 caps).
...I feel like these types of stores are becoming more few and far between?Anyone interested in getting Methyldiaz should check out their local privately owned supplement shop first-and look for Built Azinol. I have a feeling it’s in a lot of those shops throughout the US. I’ve actually had good experiences with Built products in general.
My local shop carries this and some others . Most of their brands are the ones that lay low and distribute rather than sell to individuals . I’m not too knowledgeable on this but it seems pretty toxic lmao...I feel like these types of stores are becoming more few and far between?
I wish I had your shop! Mine has few designers and pros but nothing like that. I’d rather buy locally when possible.My local shop carries this and some others . Most of their brands are the ones that lay low and distribute rather than sell to individuals . I’m not too knowledgeable on this but it seems pretty toxic lmao
http://instagr.am/p/BtWB7MWFmsq/
Yeah, I know right? There’s another shop 45 minutes away that also sells PH/SarmsI wish I had your shop! Mine has few designers and pros but nothing like that. I’d rather buy locally when possible.
Still don’t understand how stores get away with putting this stuff on the shelf.
In general terms that’s pretty close. However individual response differs greatly for many of the above, and of course quality sources are more of an issue than when they were all legal.So for those still following, Mdiaz is stronger than Hexadrone, Halodrol....but less than Dmz, msten...etc?
Good thread about a compound I was not aware of. You must really be researching your compounds to find gold nuggets like this! So is this primarily a cutter like Hexadrone and Epistane? What is the typical dosage?So for those still following, Mdiaz is stronger than Hexadrone, Halodrol....but less than Dmz, msten...etc?
20mg twice daily. Yet I have done 20mg three x per day.Good thread about a compound I was not aware of. You must really be researching your compounds to find gold nuggets like this! So is this primarily a cutter like Hexadrone and Epistane? What is the typical dosage?
Do you think Methyldiazirinol would at least be a better cutter than say 1 andro? I would assume since it is methylated , probably so?the two are what I consider classic cutting drugs. as in they behave just like the classic cutting drugs. neither in imo or experience are stellar at what they do, but are certainly better than most for cutting. Did your transformation occur at the expense of large amounts of body fat? or did you gain precious meat and transform for reasons other than fat loss?
for me the versitility of both these compounds is limited to stacking and recompish goalsets. that is not to say that's their only worth, just how i feel about them.
Mithras was the best of the lot (all of these compounds launched around the same time) as it at least gave some strength and a little aggression maybe even mass gains at higher doses.
everyones goals are different.. and my biases are showing their hand
I only run methylated compounds for 6 weeks max, you think 8 weeks at 40 mg would be doable for this compound since many say it is lighter on sides despite being methylated?20mg twice daily. Yet I have done 20mg three x per day.
40mg is the average dose while 60 is considered high end
Yes, it shines very well for cutting/recomp. Someone dosing on the high end probably wouldn’t be too disappointed with it when bulking though because they would be solid lean gains without all the additional bloat. If you like the big bloated look on a bulk though, don’t get this
I never run anything for less than 8 weeks, and have actually gone as long as 10 weeks with Methyldiazirinol/Hexadrone. I used to use Epistane and DMZ at least 8 weeks too. I have never had any liver enzyme bloodwork during or directly after any cycle, but I have in between and have always just been high normal. I have always used Cycle Assist, or Kingsguard, and extra TUDCA in recent years.I only run methylated compounds for 6 weeks max, you think 8 weeks at 40 mg would be doable for this compound since many say it is lighter on sides despite being methylated?
by far and away. much much better.Do you think Methyldiazirinol would at least be a better cutter than say 1 andro? I would assume since it is methylated , probably so?
Good point, tuna man!Mdiaz sounds great , but I mean azinol is like 70-80 a bottle, but I mean actual Anavar is around the same price
Yeah I guess so....Pretty sad cuz I thought I found a gem! High anabolic, low androgenic...You probably know this but those ratios don’t mean **** in real world application most of the time
True story- I ate so much tuna that I don’t even eat it anymore . IwilleatchickenbreastGood point, tuna man!
If it’s similar to var it should be pretty hair safe at fair dosages . That’s just what I’d assumeYeah I guess so....Pretty sad cuz I thought I found a gem! High anabolic, low androgenic...
Xtreme Shred by Anabolic Technologies?I sure have! Once Xtreme Shred was no longer available, I moved on to Built Azinol, and have tried 3 more Hexadrone products. One that was made by the same manufacturer of Xtreme Shred, and that remains the best solo Hexadrone product I have used- also gone. Bottom line, my subsequent runs were never quite as rewarding as my first time, as is true for me whenever I repeat the same compounds. Even though it wasn’t as great, I still did it 3-4 summers in a row because it was still more beneficial for me than using other prohormones.
Certainly not terrible options for me, and I have used Epistane/Havoc (not eBay Havoc) for at least 5 runs. I never got significant body transformation results from Epistane, despite the fact that it improved my strength, pumps, and gave me that “on” feeling.
I also experimented with 3-AD at 75-100mg per day at the end of last summer. It was great for acute strength gains pre-workout, and also gave me some additional fullness- that’s about it though for me. At this point, I feel as though my receptors laugh at just about everything. Oddly though, my body has remained the most responsive over the years to Hexadrone.
Well, aren’t we getting frisky! It must be the Epi-Andro kicking in!
That’s how it starts, you get on one thing and start thinking about other products to further optimize your cycle- or compliment the way you feel on cycle. Before you know it, you’re on 5 different products!
It isI still have a couple bottles of OG Iron Legion Triumphalis. Not sure if two bottles is even enough for a legit cycle?
My bottle says $59. This kind of shyt is much more expensive than it used to beMdiaz sounds great , but I mean azinol is like 70-80 a bottle, but I mean actual Anavar is around the same price
Yes indeed!Xtreme Shred by Anabolic Technologies?
Yeah man . I’m like , man I’ll just buy some actual aas for that. I could probably get some var + winny for 80 lolMy bottle says $59. This kind of shyt is much more expensive than it used to be
Yes indeed!
Wanna donate those to me for a science experimentI still have a couple bottles of OG Iron Legion Triumphalis. Not sure if two bottles is even enough for a legit cycle?
I’ve probably seen that numerous times at local shops and just looked passed it. Some of those brands I don’t trust and seem shady lol. But good to know in the future.My bottle says $59. This kind of shyt is much more expensive than it used to be
Yes indeed!
Ha! I’ll give it a go but probably not until next year. I got some Dimethabold to use up this year first.Wanna donate those to me for a science experiment
Nice and you should log it. I’m thinking about hexadrone or mdiaz as a first time, but then again, expensive afHa! I’ll give it a go but probably not until next year. I got some Dimethabold to use up this year first.
I don't have a answer, but, I hope everyone knows that the anabolic to androgenic ratios for steroids don't apply to humans. Only to animals and a select few at thatIt is supposed to have an anabolic:androgenic ratio of 300:20 ...That’s ‘pretty, pretty, good’ yeah?
Yes, it gets expensive. Especially if you add in cycle supports like TUDCA which is kind of necessary.Nice and you should log it. I’m thinking about hexadrone or mdiaz as a first time, but then again, expensive af
Sounds like superdrol to meYeah I guess so....Pretty sad cuz I thought I found a gem! High anabolic, low androgenic...
There’s really nothing more effective orally than superdrol.Sounds like superdrol to me
That’s what everyone says but m1ad blew that shut out of the water for me.There’s really nothing more effective orally than superdrol.
Sorry, actually it’s AlphaLab Technolgies, but same company as as Anabolic Technologies. They actually have a very good reputation. If you can still find any of their productI’ve probably seen that numerous times at local shops and just looked passed it. Some of those brands I don’t trust and seem shady lol. But good to know in the future.
Which brand’s label says that?So the label suggest running Diaz for up to 12 weeks? That seems a lot for a methyl.
The one posted in this thread by @Rad83 but I don't see the brand name.Which brand’s label says that?
300 labs suggest that will msten alsoThe one posted in this thread by @Rad83 but I don't see the brand name.
That is insane I don’t go over 6 weeks. I know some guys like Ricky said they push it to 8. Anything beyond 8 weeks with an oral you typically won’t keep seeing results so you are throwing your money away and unnecessarily putting your liver in danger. I am sure they just put that on their label to get more money cause you will have to buy more bottles to run it for 12.300 labs suggest that will msten also
I got a good laugh the first time I saw it. I don't go over 2-3 weeks anymore, I just use orals as a kickstarter or finisher.That is insane I don’t go over 6 weeks. I know some guys like Ricky said they push it to 8. Anything beyond 8 weeks with an oral you typically won’t keep seeing results so you are throwing your money away and unnecessarily putting your liver in danger. I am sure they just put that on their label to get more money cause you will have to buy more bottles to run it for 12.
Yes,10 weeks was the most I did, and there definitely was a reduction in benefits at that point and it was no longer worth it. 8 weeks has always been my average through for most prohormones in general..That is insane I don’t go over 6 weeks. I know some guys like Ricky said they push it to 8. Anything beyond 8 weeks with an oral you typically won’t keep seeing results so you are throwing your money away and unnecessarily putting your liver in danger. I am sure they just put that on their label to get more money cause you will have to buy more bottles to run it for 12.
I don’t condone such behaviorThe one posted in this thread by @Rad83 but I don't see the brand name.
is this compound explicitly written in the statue as banned or is it similar to M Sten and DMZ and not on the list so that is how companies like 300 Labs can still manufacture it?It is supposed to have an anabolic:androgenic ratio of 300:20 ...That’s ‘pretty, pretty, good’ yeah?