Why isn’t Methyldiazirinol more popular?

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It is supposed to have an anabolic:androgenic ratio of 300:20 ...That’s ‘pretty, pretty, good’ yeah?
 
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It is supposed to have an anabolic:androgenic ratio of 300:20 ...That’s ‘pretty, pretty, good’ yeah?
I never ran it. I bought 2 bottles a couple of years ago, and then almost immediately ran up on a great deal on a lot of good stuff. So I sold the 2 bottles to help pay for what I found.

A lot of guys love the stuff, and some didn't. Some have said it seemed to be dependant upon the brand.
 
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Probably just because it's never been made in batches as large as something like Superdrol or M-Sten. So, there was never a massive, cheap supply that became proliferated and got everybody turned on to it.
 
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it was like a glorified epistane. not all that great imo
 
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it seems to be very hit or miss. those that love it swear by it and those that dont hate it/see it as a waste
 
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it seems to be very hit or miss. those that love it swear by it and those that dont hate it/see it as a waste. I have 2 bottles but just never got around to trying it.
 
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Mithras and triumphalis were decent but there's so many better options
 
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I like the ‘potentially’ low androgenic profile...Shedding is a concern, I know I’ve mentioned this a dozen times...

I’ve only found one product with this compound, and it’s on eBay 🤦‍♂️
“DS azavar”
 
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it seems to be very hit or miss. those that love it swear by it and those that dont hate it/see it as a waste. I have 2 bottles but just never got around to trying it.
Is this an issue of ‘correct isomer’ like Hexadrone?
 
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Medfit brand M-Diazinol is out there, but it’s quite pricey..

If you can find it- Azinol by Built is legit, and you may even find it at one of your local privately owned supplement shops.

I have always spoken highly of my Methyldiaz experiences, especially the first time I bought it stacked with (6-a)Hexadrone. It was by far the biggest body transformation I have ever experienced from any prohormone or stack. I felt great too!
 
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Medfit brand M-Diazinol is out there, but it’s quite pricey..

If you can find it- Azinol by Built is legit, and you may even find it at one of your local privately owned supplement shops.

I have always spoken highly of my Methyldiaz experiences, especially the first time I bought it stacked with (6-a)Hexadrone. It was by far the biggest body transformation I have ever experienced from any prohormone or stack. I felt great too!
Great info man,...I know you’re the Hexadrone dude! Didn’t know this one too, cool.

Medfits using a different chemical name than the one I’m looking at?
 
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It was by far the biggest body transformation I have ever experienced from any prohormone or stack. I felt great too!
the two are what I consider classic cutting drugs. as in they behave just like the classic cutting drugs. neither in imo or experience are stellar at what they do, but are certainly better than most for cutting. Did your transformation occur at the expense of large amounts of body fat? or did you gain precious meat and transform for reasons other than fat loss?

for me the versitility of both these compounds is limited to stacking and recompish goalsets. that is not to say that's their only worth, just how i feel about them.

Mithras was the best of the lot (all of these compounds launched around the same time) as it at least gave some strength and a little aggression maybe even mass gains at higher doses.

everyones goals are different.. and my biases are showing their hand
 
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Great info man,...I know you’re the Hexadrone dude! Didn’t know this one too, cool.

Medfits using a different chemical name than the one I’m looking at?
Oh yeah, Methyldiazirinol/Hexadrone should be in my signature!

Yeah, that is odd nomenclature on the Medfit product- not sure about that 😬
 
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Appreciate your insight @xR1pp3Rx

I think a lotta guys, myself included, like the idea of a better than average physique and strength level but aren’t ready to jump into dmz etc....Or want that huge size transformation that I’ve seen people have!
 
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the two are what I consider classic cutting drugs. as in they behave just like the classic cutting drugs. neither in imo or experience are stellar at what they do, but are certainly better than most for cutting. Did your transformation occur at the expense of large amounts of body fat? or did you gain precious meat and transform for reasons other than fat loss?

for me the versitility of both these compounds is limited to stacking and recompish goalsets. that is not to say that's their only worth, just how i feel about them.

Mithras was the best of the lot (all of these compounds launched around the same time) as it at least gave some strength and a little aggression maybe even mass gains at higher doses.

everyones goals are different.. and my biases are showing their hand
The product was called Xtreme Shred - and it was appropriately named!
It definitely stripped the fat off me while building muscle at the same time...it was recomp at its very best.
It was bit embarrassing though because everyone kept making comments that I need to lay off the steroids. I would just laugh it off and say I was working extra hard in the gym...haha. While I have had some success with Epistane and more-so DMZ over the years, I wasn’t prepared for the exceptional results I was going to experience when I bought Xtreme Shred (RIP).
 
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@Ricky10 have you tried to recreate that blend with separate compounds and stack em?
 
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This compound, hexadrone, and epiandro are my cup of tea. Along with other dhea. I read this is safe for women too
 
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It is supposed to have an anabolic:androgenic ratio of 300:20 ...That’s ‘pretty, pretty, good’ yeah?

I think there is a stability issue with the command in certain temperatures. I also think like stated above, theres never been a huge supply of raws that made distributors shout to the rooftops to create demand.
 
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@Ricky10 have you tried to recreate that blend with separate compounds and stack em?
I sure have! Once Xtreme Shred was no longer available, I moved on to Built Azinol, and have tried 3 more Hexadrone products. One that was made by the same manufacturer of Xtreme Shred, and that remains the best solo Hexadrone product I have used- also gone. Bottom line, my subsequent runs were never quite as rewarding as my first time, as is true for me whenever I repeat the same compounds. Even though it wasn’t as great, I still did it 3-4 summers in a row because it was still more beneficial for me than using other prohormones.
epistane and 3ad comes to mind.
Certainly not terrible options for me, and I have used Epistane/Havoc (not eBay Havoc) for at least 5 runs. I never got significant body transformation results from Epistane, despite the fact that it improved my strength, pumps, and gave me that “on” feeling.

I also experimented with 3-AD at 75-100mg per day at the end of last summer. It was great for acute strength gains pre-workout, and also gave me some additional fullness- that’s about it though for me. At this point, I feel as though my receptors laugh at just about everything. Oddly though, my body has remained the most responsive over the years to Hexadrone.
This compound, hexadrone, and epiandro are my cup of tea. Along with other dhea. I read this is safe for women too
Well, aren’t we getting frisky! It must be the Epi-Andro kicking in!

That’s how it starts, you get on one thing and start thinking about other products to further optimize your cycle- or compliment the way you feel on cycle. Before you know it, you’re on 5 different products!
 
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I sure have! Once Xtreme Shred was no longer available, I moved on to Built Azinol, and have tried 3 more Hexadrone products. One that was made by the same manufacturer of Xtreme Shred, and that remains the best solo Hexadrone product I have used- also gone. Bottom line, my subsequent runs were never quite as rewarding as my first time, as is true for me whenever I repeat the same compounds. Even though it wasn’t as great, I still did it 3-4 summers in a row because it was still more beneficial for me than using other prohormones.

Certainly not terrible options for me, and I have used Epistane/Havoc (not eBay Havoc) for at least 5 runs. I never got significant body transformation results from Epistane, despite the fact that it improved my strength, pumps, and gave me that “on” feeling.

I also experimented with 3-AD at 75-100mg per day at the end of last summer. It was great for acute strength gains pre-workout, and also gave me some additional fullness- that’s about it though for me. At this point, I feel as though my receptors laugh at just about everything. Oddly though, my body has remained the most responsive over the years to Hexadrone.

Well, aren’t we getting frisky! It must be the Epi-Andro kicking in!

That’s how it starts, you get on one thing and start thinking about other products to further optimize your cycle- or compliment the way you feel on cycle. Before you know it, you’re on 5 different products!
What do you expect after reading all of your post about them ? 😂 they sound awesome

Now, it seems like hex / m Diaz and epiandro are all mild but hex seems like it has the lowest androgenic sides? Would you say this? Hex and m Diaz are more suppressive though and would require a real PCT?
 

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+1 on what ricky10 said about body transformation. I used the LGI version 2 summer's ago for a transformation from being a 275-280 lb powerlifting physique down to 235. My diet was key though pretty much very low carb to keto. But i stacked with a td diem and desoxy t product. This changed my physique and what is so awesome was I kept much of my strength, especially repetition strength actually went up despite the weight loss.
 
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You’re “magazine natural” haha
Natural - Taking nothing, maybe creatine and whey and whatever else supplements

1/4 natty - Taking light pro hormones , Sarms and grey market supplements but claiming all natural. Sometimes because you didn’t know any better.

1/3 Natty - taking hardcore prohormones and sarms , but knowing better. Competing in natural shows and claiming natural . Maybe even throwing in some peptides and fat burners.

1/2 natty - This is where it becomes evil. Claiming natural, gaining a social media following and maybe even competing in various shows. Also, selling overpriced, cookie cutter , diet and training programs

Using all dry compounds and gh - Tren, mast, anavar , etc.

Coming off and getting fat purposely so you can say you’re “bulking” which is why you now look horrible . Maybe just TRT

Getting a gym shark following

This is my hierarchy of natural 😂
 
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Natural - Taking nothing, maybe creatine and whey and whatever else supplements

1/4 natty - Taking light pro hormones , Sarms and grey market supplements but claiming all natural. Sometimes because you didn’t know any better.

1/3 Natty - taking hardcore prohormones and sarms , but knowing better. Competing in natural shows and claiming natural . Maybe even throwing in some peptides and fat burners.

1/2 natty - This is where it becomes evil. Claiming natural, gaining a social media following and maybe even competing in various shows. Also, selling overpriced, cookie cutter , diet and training programs

Using all dry compounds and gh - Tren, mast, anavar , etc.

Coming off and getting fat purposely so you can say you’re “bulking” which is why you now look horrible . Maybe just TRT

Getting a gym shark following

This is my hierarchy of natural
You forgot, dying of “mysterious heart condition” at 35... while natural and with no prior medical history
 
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What do you expect after reading all of your post about them ? 😂 they sound awesome

Now, it seems like hex / m Diaz and epiandro are all mild but hex seems like it has the lowest androgenic sides? Would you say this? Hex and m Diaz are more suppressive though and would require a real PCT?
I know, I’m a bad influence..

Yeah, Hexadrone and Methyldiaz are PCT/SERM status, but it’s worth noting that Hexadrone is less harsh on the system in terms of feels and sides. It’s very clean; no lethargy, increases my libido- so it feels less suppressive in itself. It can increase joint pain/dryness a bit, but aside from that, it’s definitely one of the cleanest things I have ever put in my mouth.
Natural - Taking nothing, maybe creatine and whey and whatever else supplements

1/4 natty - Taking light pro hormones , Sarms and grey market supplements but claiming all natural. Sometimes because you didn’t know any better.

1/3 Natty - taking hardcore prohormones and sarms , but knowing better. Competing in natural shows and claiming natural . Maybe even throwing in some peptides and fat burners.

1/2 natty - This is where it becomes evil. Claiming natural, gaining a social media following and maybe even competing in various shows. Also, selling overpriced, cookie cutter , diet and training programs

Using all dry compounds and gh - Tren, mast, anavar , etc.

Coming off and getting fat purposely so you can say you’re “bulking” which is why you now look horrible . Maybe just TRT

Getting a gym shark following

This is my hierarchy of natural 😂
I like you
Pretty sure 300 Labs has a methyldiazirinol product. It has a funny name though, as I recall. We just need Ricky to try it and make sure it’s good.
Hmmm...nice find, I can’t seem to read the dose per capsules anywhere. I will contact them and ask for a sample 🧐
 
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I've used 300 labs daxos (msten) and it was good. 8mg per cap. Lgi dosed triumphalis at 15mg and i think that's the standard with mdiaz
 
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Looks like 90 caps of 50mg
Hmm...the highest I got was 20mg x 3 doses per day, and that is all that is needed and is actually high end. 20 mg x 2 doses daily is the average.

This makes 50mg capsules rather odd. I haven’t personally read anything regarding the quality of 300 Labz aside from the post above me :)

Anyone interested in getting Methyldiaz should check out their local privately owned supplement shop first-and look for Built Azinol. I have a feeling it’s in a lot of those shops throughout the US. I’ve actually had good experiences with Built products in general.
 
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Are you sure it isn't 50mg per 3 caps?
That sounds like how they usually label things, though I still can’t see the label.
I love it when websites/companies act like they are showing you the label, but it cuts right off at the one part you are actually interested in!
 
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That sounds like how they usually label things, though I still can’t see the label.
I love it when websites/companies act like they are showing you the label, but it cuts right off at the one part you are actually interested in!
Me too man. That really bugs me.
 

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