Why is Superdrol more effective than Msten even though Msten has a higher anabolic ratio?

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I found msten to be disappointing. Pretty weak oral IME. I'm always shocked when I hear people saying its like superdrol just with less sides. I know everyone is different but msten is a joke in comparison. SD at even 20mg is ridiculous and I notice it 2hrs after my first dose. Msten took over a week to really notice anything. I would say the only thing close to SD is Abombs just no where near as "clean" and still not as powerful.
 
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I found msten to be disappointing. Pretty weak oral IME. I'm always shocked when I hear people saying its like superdrol just with less sides. I know everyone is different but msten is a joke in comparison. SD at even 20mg is ridiculous and I notice it 2hrs after my first dose. Msten took over a week to really notice anything. I would say the only thing close to SD is Abombs just no where near as "clean" and still not as powerful.
That’s interesting...I’ve been reading old threads about how strong and effective msten is and was considering running it solo in a couple weeks...
 
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Yea I've read some of those as well. How are you planning on running it? Length? Dose?
 
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That’s interesting...I’ve been reading old threads about how strong and effective msten is and was considering running it solo in a couple weeks...
It's hit or miss like a lot of things, a lot of ppl thought it was weak using msten at sd dosages 10-20mg a day, but bump that to 30-50, 50 being very high, and those same ppl may change there mind. I found 30 - 40 to be the sweet spot .
 
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Maybe late, but could be helpful. Guys, don't forget, not everybody react same to certan drug. For example, if you stay lean yet full when consuming a lot of carbs, Superdrol will do wonders for you (since he jacks up igf in your blood). Some people love Tren, some people can't last more than few weeks on it. It is highly individual and anything you do, you have to try it on your own to see and know the result. And as far as those charts, drug which are in the middle/lower range (like Anavar, Eq, Primo, etc), those are the things which will give you most quality muscle gain. Maybe not drastic amount, but quality.
 
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Maybe late, but could be helpful. Guys, don't forget, not everybody react same to certan drug. For example, if you stay lean yet full when consuming a lot of carbs, Superdrol will do wonders for you (since he jacks up igf in your blood). Some people love Tren, some people can't last more than few weeks on it. It is highly individual and anything you do, you have to try it on your own to see and know the result. And as far as those charts, drug which are in the middle/lower range (like Anavar, Eq, Primo, etc), those are the things which will give you most quality muscle gain. Maybe not drastic amount, but quality.
Well said. People looking for the extremes and I can’t blame them I was looking only at that at a certain point but it’s all about the long term, steady gains. Whatever gives you 10-15 lbs in a month is half garbage water and glycogen. We are lucky to be able to put on 3-4 maybe 5 lbs of muscle a month while blasting and anyone looking for more than that is greedy and misinformed.
 
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I take dbol and feel bloated and lethargic. Others take it and get euphoric and want to smash the weights. When you find what works stick with it. Thats why I dont like running more than one new compound at a time. If bad effects arise I won't know which compound caused them. The only universally loved steroid by all men is test lol
 
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I take dbol and feel bloated and lethargic. Others take it and get euphoric and want to smash the weights. When you find what works stick with it. Thats why I dont like running more than one new compound at a time. If bad effects arise I won't know which compound caused them. The only universally loved steroid by all men is test lol
Honestly, I keep test to a minimum just enough to stop my joints from screaming while I use Proviron, mast, etc.
 
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Honestly, I keep test to a minimum just enough to stop my joints from screaming while I use Proviron, mast, etc.
I like some extra test, but there's a lot of ppl I've came across who do what you just said. They seem to get worse side effects from testosterone and prefer dht's
 
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Yea I've read some of those as well. How are you planning on running it? Length? Dose?
If I go with it, probably start at 10mg twice a day.

Was your run recent? What brand, if you don’t mind I ask? ...Lotta the reading I was doing mentioned brands product being bunk
and/or watered down over the years.

I stacked a couple sarms last run, they required high dosing and not cost effective...Basically they the new andros 🤣
 
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If I go with it, probably start at 10mg twice a day.

Was your run recent? What brand, if you don’t mind I ask? ...Lotta the reading I was doing mentioned brands product being bunk
and/or watered down over the years.

I stacked a couple sarms last run, they required high dosing and not cost effective...Basically they the new andros 🤣
I ran Olympus Labs Stenabol about 6months ago. Started at 20mg and worked up to 40.

SARMS have their uses but too many guys expect them to be as good as AAS. They're definitely not weak tho. RAD 140 made me aggressive as hell and not in a good way. S23 turned my piss dark amber and made me shed hair like nothing else.

Favorite sarm is S4. Mild but nice effect, great feeling drug. Not very supressive either.
 
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I ran Olympus Labs Stenabol about 6months ago. Started at 20mg and worked up to 40.

SARMS have their uses but too many guys expect them to be as good as AAS. They're definitely not weak tho. RAD 140 made me aggressive as hell and not in a good way. S23 turned my piss dark amber and made me shed hair like nothing else.

Favorite sarm is S4. Mild but nice effect, great feeling drug. Not very supressive either.
Agree on sarms! (It was originally popular that they provided results at low-doses, something that quickly proved to be false)

Olympus doesn’t have the best rep in the recent past...Have you thought of trying again with Vicious or PRE ?
 
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Ok guys. Just starting to learn about anabolic ratios and want to know for my own knowledge why is it that just because a compound like MSten which has an anabolic ratio of 600 and Superdrol’s ratio is only 400, but still Superdrol is the better mass builder? Why don’t the ratio translate into the amount of real life gains accuratey?
For one you are not a rat levator ani muscle nor are you a rat prostate.

Two the A:A ratio does not take into consideration effects on ERb receptors, IGF-1, glycogen compensation, water retention leading to enhanced leverage during lifting and a few other angles I am sure I am forgetting.

At the end of the day the A:A can be used as a reference range when looking to compare two novel compounds. When it comes to hormones that are actually available to the public anecdotal reports actually, for once, carry more weight IMO.
 
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Agree on sarms! (It was originally popular that they provided results at low-doses, something that quickly proved to be false)

Olympus doesn’t have the best rep in the recent past...Have you thought of trying again with Vicious or PRE ?
Maybe I will sometime in the future but first I am gonna run SD again. Its been years since my last run of it and ready for some of them gains.
 
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Superdrol didn't do a lot for me . But Msten really IS like number 4 or 5 for me .
Legitimate SD is one of the strongest Steroids ever made.
It is possible that your body didn't react (Anabolically) as well to SD as it did Msten, but Extremely unlikely.
It's much more likely that one (or both) of the compounds you used weren't what they were advertised to be.

The Name Superdrol came from "Super Anadrol".

There aren't many things that can match it's Anabolic potential.
 
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The superdrol was from a very reputable source.
I understand.
What I wrote is true.
There is a tiny chance of something else going on (as I said).
SD is one the most Powerful Steroids ever made.

... I don't know what else to say.
It's pretty well covered already. ^^^
 
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But I've also read there are some non responders to superdrol too.
There May be a few.
I'd have to see it, or personally know the brother's long-term history so I could understand that he wasn't mistaken in some way.

But I Definitely know that there is Bunk SD.

And as much as your source may be extremely legit ... I've talked to hundreds of brothers privately.
Guess what one of the most common comments they make are?
"I know my source/stuff is legit".

And for many of them, one of the main reasons we're taking to each other is because they're trying to figure out what's going wrong.
And for the majority of those... You guessed it.... Their source or product turned out to not be legit at all.

I tend to believe what I see, and can verify.

I don't know that I've Ever seen a non-responder to SD. EVER.
But I know for a fact I've seen a Lot of Bunk SD.
And a Lot of "Legit" sources and/or products that actually were Not legit at all.

:)
 
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The superdrol was from a very reputable source. But I had also been on a long run before using it, so that played a role too. Started with 1 andro and metha-quad , then dmz and msten and m 1 alpha , then halodrol, stayed on m1 alpha for 3 months, took methyl 1 test with m 1 alpha for 3 weeks ................then got off everything and on to test and dbol, didn't like the dbol my first time , kinda ruined what I had going with all those dry gains, then moved on to tren prohormone and superdrol.
Whoa!!!
Yeah ... You can't use that crazy run to verify Anything.

Hopefully you don't do anything like that again.
 
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The superdrol was from a very reputable source. But I had also been on a long run before using it, so that played a role too. Started with 1 andro and metha-quad , then dmz and msten and m 1 alpha , then halodrol, stayed on m1 alpha for 3 months, took methyl 1 test with m 1 alpha for 3 weeks ................then got off everything and on to test and dbol, didn't like the dbol my first time , kinda ruined what I had going with all those dry gains, then moved on to tren prohormone and superdrol.
my skin is turning yellow just reading that..

😂
 
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I handle orals well, I dont think theres any problem with ppl running 150mg+ of anadrol, I've seen a few run sd at 50 with no problems, even seen the 2 stacked at 100/30 and the guy was fine. And I know I will try that one day.

But what you listed above made me queasy. A sick feeling in my gut. I even lost my appetite as I sit here staring at my eggs I'm not going to finish now😪
 

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The superdrol was from a very reputable source. But I had also been on a long run before using it, so that played a role too. Started with 1 andro and metha-quad , then dmz and msten and m 1 alpha , then halodrol, stayed on m1 alpha for 3 months, took methyl 1 test with m 1 alpha for 3 weeks ................then got off everything and on to test and dbol, didn't like the dbol my first time , kinda ruined what I had going with all those dry gains, then moved on to tren prohormone and superdrol.
Yeah after all that I’m not surprised that it didn’t work.

To me: SD = very impressive, M-Sten = not impressive
 
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I’m late to the show as always. I’ve tried superdrol twice from 2 different sources.
First time it sucked and I got barely anything from it. Determined source was bunk.

Second time was from what I consider a “reputable source” and...... still sucked didn’t do much for me.

so I’ve either gotten bunk twice, or it does nothing for me. Feel free to send me some confirmed non bunk superdrol and I’ll give it to my rats and report back the findings 😂
 
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I’m late to the show as always. I’ve tried superdrol twice from 2 different sources.
First time it sucked and I got barely anything from it. Determined source was bunk.

Second time was from what I consider a “reputable source” and...... still sucked didn’t do much for me.

so I’ve either gotten bunk twice, or it does nothing for me. Feel free to send me some confirmed non bunk superdrol and I’ll give it to my rats and report back the findings 😂
I definitely feel like superdrol should put size on faster then anything in the same timeframe at a equivalent dose.

Like I dont see 30mg of anything per day doing more then 30mg of sd, so I'd like to say it was probably bunk. But, superdrol is always dirt cheap so it almost doesn't make sense to underdose or counterfeit it
 
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I definitely feel like superdrol should put size on faster then anything in the same timeframe at a equivalent dose.

Like I dont see 30mg of anything per day doing more then 30mg of sd, so I'd like to say it was probably bunk. But, superdrol is always dirt cheap so it almost doesn't make sense to underdose or counterfeit it
Yeah, that used to be the case.

But the past 4 or 5 years, several bunk SD products have popped up.

SMH
:-(
 
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Well I’m down to one source at the moment, same as where I got the last batch of superdrol. I’m about to place a big order for the summer, hope nothing else I get is bunk
 
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I handle orals great , the only one that bothered was anadrol . Started getting bloody noses in the second week. By my third bloody nose I stopped it. Starting to think I handle orals way better than injectables. I have had 3 infections in the last 6 months . I clean everything , use new needles , but reuse syringes for a while, and during every infection I was using hydrogen peroxide instead of alcohol to clean everything. If you look up the comparison between alacohol and hydrogen peroxide , they are pretty much equal but HP can be harsher on the skin. Could be the winny though too. I heard of people having issues with that, and injecting something methylated that made to suivive the first pass thru the liver can;t be too good for injecting. I just stared gettuing small lump in my should AGAIN , but luckily I still had a ton of antibiotics left from my hip infection surgery where they had slice open my left buttock and rain the infection and close it up with 25 staples. Just started drinking the rest of my winny this week. I just am not seeing all the super great stuff I heard of injectables being way way better than orals and way way better gains. I think my gains looked better when on the orals and just injecting test
Stop trolling, and posting this irresponsible nonsense.
 
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“Starting to think I handle orals way better than injectables. I have had 3 infections in the last 6 months . “

If this is actually true maybe you just stop with all anabolics
 
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We can All be wrong or mistaken sometimes, but that is one of the Big advantages of being here.
If we're wrong about something we do/post, someone will let us know.

But if Almost everything we're doing/posting disagrees with the knowledge/beliefs/experiences of all the more knowledgeable guys on here ....
We should immediately stop what we're doing, and not start back until our beliefs/thoughts (on these subjects) lines up A Lot more with the vast knowledge/experience represented on this board.

Brother, HONESTLY ... You're posting some Dangerous, Scary stuff right now.

So, if you're Not a Troll, I'm extremely concerned.

And if you are ... We won't allow dangerous Trolling like that here.

This is a community.

:)
 
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So someone gets an infection it's automatically their fault and they did something wrong and unsafe ? Get a brain that works .
I have heard a couple coaches on a recent podcast say they completely stopped having any of their athletes use injectable Winny for the propensity for infection with it. For some reason, it is extremely common explicitly with injectable stanozolol. So it probably wasn’t your fault if that was the only inj compound that caused an issue.

However, you should never reuse syringes, even with freshly opened sterile needles. That is 101 injection hygiene brother. As soon as you peel that wrapper open, the outside of the barrel isn’t sterile. Sure you could wipe it down with alcohol prior to next use, but as soon as you twist off the OG needle exposing the internal barrel to atmosphere it is no longer sterile.

It’s for this same reason you should never draw and store oil in a syringe for later use. I understand guys using daily shots like to draw a bunch up at once for convenience, but it’s strictly bad practice and asking for an issue at some point.

If you can’t afford fresh syringes, you can’t afford to cycle. A box of 100 count 1cc 29g 1/2” insulin syringes cost me like $13 at Sam’s Club the other day. if you are really on a budget. That’s one cheat meal at McDonald’s.
 
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When I say that I handle orals well, I was referring to side effects. 50mg of anadrol gives me zero negative sides, 30mg superdrol no sides, my appetite doesn't go away or anything. Liver stays in range ( or at least it use too, haven't had bloodwork in a while I'm overdue)

But, the damage you need to worry about is not on your liver. It's your heart. Theres a long term accumulative effect from orals and even slightly elevated bp over time can fluck up your heart and kidney's in the long run.

Infection is a sterility issue, dirty gear, dirty skin or vials ect. Water based winny is notorious for being contaminated for some reason.

As far as reusing the barrels, I've used it twice doing multiple Injections at a time but never saved them for another day. I'm sure bacteria could possibly grow in them so maybe its that.
 

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It’s for this same reason you should never draw and store oil in a syringe for later use. I understand guys using daily shots like to draw a bunch up at once for convenience, but it’s strictly bad practice and asking for an issue at some point.
I heard this a few times lately and I understand you shouldn’t store oil in a syringe for a longer period of time but do you think it’s any harm in storing it overnight? I usually draw at night and then pin in the morning, maybe I shouldn’t do that anymore 🤔
 
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I heard this a few times lately and I understand you shouldn’t store oil in a syringe for a longer period of time but do you think it’s any harm in storing it overnight? I usually draw at night and then pin in the morning, maybe I shouldn’t do that anymore 🤔
Certain carrier oils and solvents will dissolve the black plunger tip in your barrel. A LOT of ugl are using mct oil, and theres nothing wrong with that. But mct is one that can dissolve that rubber plunger. So if you preload you risk injecting some of that.
 

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Certain carrier oils and solvents will dissolve the black plunger tip in your barrel. A LOT of ugl are using mct oil, and theres nothing wrong with that. But mct is one that can dissolve that rubber plunger. So if you preload you risk injecting some of that.
Thanks, I’ll start pinning at the same time as I draw.
 
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I have heard a couple coaches on a recent podcast say they completely stopped having any of their athletes use injectable Winny for the propensity for infection with it. For some reason, it is extremely common explicitly with injectable stanozolol. So it probably wasn’t your fault if that was the only inj compound that caused an issue.

However, you should never reuse syringes, even with freshly opened sterile needles. That is 101 injection hygiene brother. As soon as you peel that wrapper open, the outside of the barrel isn’t sterile. Sure you could wipe it down with alcohol prior to next use, but as soon as you twist off the OG needle exposing the internal barrel to atmosphere it is no longer sterile.

It’s for this same reason you should never draw and store oil in a syringe for later use. I understand guys using daily shots like to draw a bunch up at once for convenience, but it’s strictly bad practice and asking for an issue at some point.

If you can’t afford fresh syringes, you can’t afford to cycle. A box of 100 count 1cc 29g 1/2” insulin syringes cost me like $13 at Sam’s Club the other day. if you are really on a budget. That’s one cheat meal at McDonald’s.
3 infections in the last 6 months. Three. In the last 6 months.
And he's Still reusing syringes.

At what point is it his fault?

IT'S HIS FAULT.
 
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When I first started , I WAS using fresh syringes every single time , but after the first 2 months I thought it was such a waste , and every single guy I talked to at my gym that uses ( that I know of ) said they reuse syringes and get like 10 uses out of one before throwing it away. Even my very good friend that sells steroids to almost everyone at my gym ( I very rarely buy from him ), said he resuses them.
the problem is that kids come on this forum and they read this stuff

then they think, ‘ah this dude says he smashed a load of orals and got massive and looked better than anyone else in the gym, and he injected himself a bit but i only need some needles and like 4 syringes for a whole cycle cause that’s what he does’

then they **** themselves up

their mummy and daddy lobby the government about how bad roids are

then the government ban nice things and make other nice things harder to get

so even if your going to do this stupid crap at least have the awareness not to post about it - ultimately you’ll make it harder for yourself in the future to get stuff

so do it for you
 
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I am super anal about injecting. I wipe down the surface with alcohol before I even place the syringe package on it.

and I never reuse anything, I don’t even use the same syringe for multiple shots at the same time
 
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I am super anal about injecting. I wipe down the surface with alcohol before I even place the syringe package on it.

and I never reuse anything, I don’t even use the same syringe for multiple shots at the same time
I've simplified my process for my convenience.

Using slin pins right now so I put some hot water in a cup and put my vial in the water to make it draw easier. Hop in the shower, get out, wipe the vial with alcohol, draw and inject with a slinpin and chuck the needle in my sharp box aka a empty supplement tub.

If I'm using regular pins I do the same, possibly swap the needle after drawing but I'm ok with drawing and injecting with the same pin.

I've never had a infection.

That being said, I know guys that only swab the vial when they first open it, keep it in a ziplock and never swab it again. I dont think it's a good practice but never heard one of them mention a infection.

I know older guys that been using gear since the 80s and I haven't heard any bad infection stories from them.

@SwoleMax I'm not trying to attack or lecture you, the greatest thing about being a adult is you can do whatever you want. If your happy with your results and everything with the orals then by all means go for it. I'm not gonna tell you what you should do (although you shouldn't promote it cuz the kiddies like to listen to everything they hear on the webz)
But with the injectables getting 3 infections in 6 months means your doing something wrong, I'm going to guess that bacteria is growing in the syringe barrels.
 
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the problem is that kids come on this forum and they read this stuff

then they think, ‘ah this dude says he smashed a load of orals and got massive and looked better than anyone else in the gym, and he injected himself a bit but i only need some needles and like 4 syringes for a whole cycle cause that’s what he does’

then they **** themselves up

their mummy and daddy lobby the government about how bad roids are

then the government ban nice things and make other nice things harder to get

so even if your going to do this stupid crap at least have the awareness not to post about it - ultimately you’ll make it harder for yourself in the future to get stuff

so do it for you

^^^ THIS ^^^
 
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I swab the vial every time and I use 2 different needles to inject and draw. I’m anal, and syringes and needles are cheap compared to doctor bills and down time. That’s just me. To each his own if it works for you, but if it doesn’t work.......
 
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I swab the vial every time and I use 2 different needles to inject and draw. I’m anal, and syringes and needles are cheap compared to doctor bills and down time. That’s just me. To each his own if it works for you, but if it doesn’t work.......
I personally swab it every time. The only reason I stopped switching needles from draw to inject is I just dont feel like it. It's still 100% sterile and dosen't cause me discomfort so 🤷‍♂️
 
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I personally swab it every time. The only reason I stopped switching needles from draw to inject is I just dont feel like it. It's still 100% sterile and dosen't cause me discomfort so 🤷‍♂️
The main reason I switch is because I use a bigger needle to draw with then I do to inject. And my wife tells me that’s how I should do it, lol
 
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I swab the vial every time and I use 2 different needles to inject and draw. I’m anal, and syringes and needles are cheap compared to doctor bills and down time. That’s just me. To each his own if it works for you, but if it doesn’t work.......
I do the same. Draw with a 21 and pin with a 23 or 25. Always swapped needles, mainly because the pin going through a vial blunts it slightly so causes slightly more discomfort (I know it’s not much difference but just a tiny difference over the long term). And given the cost of needles I just think why not.
 

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Certain carrier oils and solvents will dissolve the black plunger tip in your barrel. A LOT of ugl are using mct oil, and theres nothing wrong with that. But mct is one that can dissolve that rubber plunger. So if you preload you risk injecting some of that.
I recently saw first hand how oil can unexpectedly dissolve something. My old lady is not keeping up with my sex drive right now, so I got one of those rubber flash light devices to supplement my needs. I’ve been using it with coconut oil. The jar of coconut oil was almost gone so I thought it would be a good idea to leave a plastic spoon in the jar to easily scoop some out. Within a few days, I was horrified to see that the plastic spoon was dissolving in the coconut oil and breaking apart into small sharp pieces. The inside of the rubber device is also disintegrating from the coconut oil! I had to throw them out to avoid a horrible and unexplainable injury!
 
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I recently saw first hand how oil can unexpectedly dissolve something. My old lady is not keeping up with my sex drive right now, so I got one of those rubber flash light devices to supplement my needs. I’ve been using it with coconut oil. The jar of coconut oil was almost gone so I thought it would be a good idea to leave a plastic spoon in the jar to easily scoop some out. Within a few days, I was horrified to see that the plastic spoon was dissolving in the coconut oil and breaking apart into small sharp pieces. The inside of the rubber device is also disintegrating from the coconut oil! I had to throw them out to avoid a horrible and unexplainable injury!
And coconut oil is......... a mct oil!

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