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Why do you?

vector18

vector18

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So far I've done 2 cycles of an oral PH and took liver care along with each cycle. But after reading and reading, it seems to me more and more
we are destroying our livers with these orals. I know the reason I am not
doing injections, but I'd like to hear from others why they do orals rather than
injections?
 
at the time was cheaper for me to get. but would be happier pinning anyday imo!!
 
I did orals in the past simply bc of their legality at the time. Plus they were inexpensive and easy to get. Plus the risk vs. reward ratio seemed worth it depending on the compounds
 
i always debated doing injects for my first cycle but did a few ds cycles before popping my cherry and im glad i did.. it helped me with a few things... it taught me how to eat right for a longer amount of time.. ie. at the time i usually ate 3200 cals a day then i jumped to 4500 on my first cycle of havoc.. now sustaining that for 4 weeks is hard.. and eatting for eight weeks thru pct is even harder.. my next cycle was a little longer it was 6 weeks.. this cycle taught me alot about shutdown and how to keep gains post cycle.. i learned more about how important pct is and how important an aggresive pct is rather then just a simple nolv/clom/torem pct.. these cycles prepared me to run a longer test cycle and also taught me alot about keeping gains.. shutdown and how to deal with it as well as how my body is effected by differnt anabolics...
so i guess to answer your questions i chose to do ph/ds before injects was to teach myself how to cycle with out the pressure of having to do a ten week cycle and pussing out halfway through cause something goes wrong.. as well as for stepping stone purposes..
 
Orals are easily to obtain. Inj are slightly harder. Fir me I am about to switch to my first test run... Got 2 bottles of test e just waiting on me!!! More excited than a kid on a candy store.
 
Why do you say that about the liver? Certainly there is some damage going on, but I'm not convinced a great deal of it is permanent. The liver is tremendously resilient. Orals have been run at high doses for much longer than people do now, without any type of cycle support.

Anyway, on to the reasons for using PH/DS

1. legality + stigma
2. availability + price
3. comparable gains w/ short cycles
4. lack of conversion to DHT/E -> this is also why we feel crappy on ph/ds cycle
 
i definately prefer injects over orals anyday..but in my present situation i can afford to risk getting caught with injects so i do a few oral cycles a year
 
Cost and legality are my two biggest reasons why. But cost is not a concern especially since the little more money I will spend will result in more quality gains
 
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