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Take hawthorn berry for the blood pressure also cq10 is recommended for heart on drol. Libido Maca or yohimbine Longjack or Trib. Thats why Im not doing it ,,,all the protocols you have to take I ended up spending over two hundred fifty dollars on being safe with superdrol two years ago and I still got side effects coming off. I Than decided to go natural. Hope that helps.
 
on my second cycle i didnt had any libido prob just some BP issues but Cycle support did help alot. after i stoped my first cycle i had my cholesterol @ 254 or something along those lines and i did like 5-6 months later another SD cycle i havent been off supps in more than a year but i try to have cycle support as a staple and now my total cholesterol is around 167 , and i eat alot of stuff :lol:
 
I think I can say it in here and not get slammed by AX reps, but i'm disappointed in what Superdrol NG is. Kinda the same as b5150, more upset about the naming of the product and ingredients really, not so much saying its useless. I just kinda think Drive would give way better benegits, and cost less, but not be ultrahyped with crazy names like "methyl xanthine"
 
EasyEJL said:
I think I can say it in here and not get slammed by AX reps, but i'm disappointed in what Superdrol NG is. Kinda the same as b5150, more upset about the naming of the product and ingredients really, not so much saying its useless. I just kinda think Drive would give way better benegits, and cost less, but not be ultrahyped with crazy names like "methyl xanthine"
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Did they post the ingredients list?
 
Prasterone = DHEA
ATD = AI
Methyl Xanthine = Caffeine
Aphrodine = Yohimbine
Gokshura = Tribulus
4-Hydroxyisoleucine = Fenugreek

Caffeine and Yohimbine will give that intensity that people are experiencing. Especially those (which are many) that have never used Yohimbine alone and especially stacked with caffeine.

It is what it is and it is what they wanted for their market.

As a consumer we are all entitled to be informed and critical of products and product claims. As product developers they are obligated to support their claims and BigSmith stated that it is exactly what he wanted developed and it is perfroming exactly how he intended. That is to be considered a success regarless of whether we as consumers purchase it or not.
 
B5150 said:
Prasterone = DHEA
ATD = AI
Methyl Xanthine = Caffeine
Aphrodine = Yohimbine
Gokshura = Tribulus
4-Hydroxyisoleucine = Fenugreek

Caffeine and Yohimbine will give that intensity that people are experiencing. Especially those (which are many) that have never used Yohimbine alone and especially stacked with caffeine.

It is what it is and it is what they wanted for their market.

As a consumer we are all entitled to be informed and critical of products and product claims.
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I know the claims of "its the first PH I felt from dose one" seem silly when you consider that sure, you feel ECA from dose one too :) I kinda lean towards thinking this is likely to be more valuable for the older guys, who are low on DHEA to begin with really. I sort of wonder if that is why so many testers are stacked with Mass FX.
 
EasyEJL said:
I know the claims of "its the first PH I felt from dose one" seem silly when you consider that sure, you feel ECA from dose one too :) I kinda lean towards thinking this is likely to be more valuable for the older guys, who are low on DHEA to begin with really. I sort of wonder if that is why so many testers are stacked with Mass FX.
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And YC can be even more intense that EC. What would be of concern is the elevated BP that is going to happen from the YC alone, and then the additional androgen (I don't know what Mass FX is) that may be stacked with this.

It is a challenge for me to be able to be a critical thinker (critical of supplements) and be criticized because as a MOD I am a critical thinker (critical of supplements). How could you do that to a sponsor? :think:
 
B5150 said:
And YC can be even more intense that EC. What would be of concern is the elevated BP that is going to happen from the YC alone, and then the additional androgen (I don't know what Mass FX is) that may be stacked with this.

It is a challenge for me to be able to be a critical thinker (critical of supplements) and be criticized because as a MOD I am a critical thinker (critical of supplements). How could you do that to a sponsor? :think:
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B5150
Quality Assurance
Board Administrator

Doesn't seem to me like you should be criticized for making sure the facts are straight. Honesty can also be a measure of quality.
 
B5150 said:
And YC can be even more intense that EC. What would be of concern is the elevated BP that is going to happen from the YC alone, and then the additional androgen (I don't know what Mass FX is) that may be stacked with this.

It is a challenge for me to be able to be a critical thinker (critical of supplements) and be criticized because as a MOD I am a critical thinker (critical of supplements). How could you do that to a sponsor? :think:
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yeah, i didn't find anything you said to be out of place, nothing like "what a ****ty mix of ingredients", just "howcome you couldn't use an original name for the product, and the common names of the ingredients."

But it wasn't only a hit on a sponsor, it was also being a heretic about a Dr. D product. It seems there is almost a religious fervor there. Not that he hasn't designed great products for AX + IBE in the past, and not like this probably isn't the best or close to the best product of its type that will be sold at GNC, but it surely bears 0 relation to superdrol, other than the name.
 
Wow...I am little surprised by those ingredients. Not what I was expecting.

I'm taking 300mg of DHEA and 50mg of ATD along with 300mg of 1AD and have noticed a difference in a week.
 
thewilman said:
Wow...I am little surprised by those ingredients. Not what I was expecting.

I'm taking 300mg of DHEA and 50mg of ATD along with 300mg of 1AD and have noticed a difference in a week.
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I would think its more the 1AD :) but you are an old bastard too, so you would have lower natty DHEA, so it may help you or me more. I just can't see it making much difference in a 21 yo
 
EasyEJL said:
I would think its more the 1AD :) but you are an old bastard too, so you would have lower natty DHEA, so it may help you or me more. I just can't see it making much difference in a 21 yo
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it seemed to make me feel a little different @100mg when I was 21, but I was taking it with at least tribulus and ATD. Possibly helped my libido a little over what the AI did to bring it down, but that could have been in my head, I am young, afterall, and a total hornball.
 
yeah, hard to say, thats why there are a couple of the logs I am watching closely, and i've unsubbed from the rest. The results with MassFX are pointless to me, i'm only interested in SDNG solo
 
EasyEJL said:
yeah, hard to say, thats why there are a couple of the logs I am watching closely, and i've unsubbed from the rest. The results with MassFX are pointless to me, i'm only interested in SDNG solo
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I think it might be good for recomposition and getting you in gear for working out when you're on a slight calorie deficit.

I wouldn't see myself using it for anything else.
 
bitterplacebo said:
I think it might be good for recomposition and getting you in gear for working out when you're on a slight calorie deficit.

I wouldn't see myself using it for anything else.
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the 680mg of DHEA with ATD + the test boosters might work really well for someone in their late 30s/40s. The other thread talking about it got locked down..... so we'd better stop here before the AXholes nail us too :D
 
EasyEJL said:
I would think its more the 1AD :) but you are an old bastard too, so you would have lower natty DHEA, so it may help you or me more. I just can't see it making much difference in a 21 yo
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Agreed on all counts! :D

With the DHEA - almost no lethargy whatsoever on the 1AD
 
thewilman said:
That's a LOT of DHEA!



Like YOU and me :-( !!! :nutkick:
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Yeah, so i'm not knocking the product, or debating its value. I just dislike the name, and the way the ingredients are named. I can see where PA blows off some steam at AN even over claims on RPM being a SARM, or some of the other claims people make.

Using Prasterone or whatever it is for DHEA just seems silly. The only reason I can see doing that is to hide that it is just DHEA, to try to get some extra placebo effect, and make it sound more exotic
 
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