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Whats your all around favorite Methyl?

Whats your all around favorite Methyl

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Ok, I've got some questions based on all I've read here.

Those of you who know, your help in understanding is appreciated:

(1) Why so down on M4AD? I expect the answer will be either (a) because it converts to methyl-test (not methyl-1-test) or (b) it just didn't give results. The former problem, I have read several times, is not so great an issue as only small amount of conversion to methyl-test takes place, which isn't all bad and the latter problem is most likely a result of severe underdosing. I am presently being advised to use M4AD at 200mg per day for 3-4 weeks. Helpful comments will be appreciated.

(2) Why use M1,4-Andro instead of just 1,4-Andro? The person who suggested using M4OHN with standard 1,4-Andro (diol) seems to have a good idea. I was planning using 1,4-Andro and 4-HT together for athletic/endurance enhancement and any mass/strength help it can provide during a cutting cycle. Again, knowledgeable commentary is appreciated.
 
1a. Even small is stil something toxic.

2. M1,4ad is a completely different compound. The methylation doesnt just make it bioavailable (1.4ad already is btw). M1,4AD showed to be wet and somewhat harder to the liver than m4ohn (almost everything is).

1,4ad + M4OHN is a lean bulk/body recomp option.
1,4ad + 4OHT is a combo I never thought of, seems great to cut.
 
I appreciate that reply and would like to see additional comments from others as well.

But, comparing M1-T (which is clearly a favorite in this poll/thread) with M4AD, are you saying that the latter is more hepatoxic that the former? I mean, we understand that M1-T is harsh, causes (in varying levels between people) undesired sides, and shuts you down, not to mention the potential liver stress... but many of us have used/do use M1-T anyway for the benefit we can derive. Why wouldn't M4AD be regarded in the same way?
 
shootmeagain said:
I appreciate that reply and would like to see additional comments from others as well.

But, comparing M1-T (which is clearly a favorite in this poll/thread) with M4AD, are you saying that the latter is more hepatoxic that the former?
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No, nothing is worse than M1T. I meant a different kind of toxicity. So few people used it that there is no report of bloodworks.

I just like to stay away from most methyls. I think only m4ohn, Superdrol and M5aa are good all-around. And Anavar, m4oht and winny among steroids.
Everything has a purpose, I just prefer other alternatives.
 
Ok, gotcha. I have used M1-T and Methyl-dien myself, but am looking at potentially avoiding methyls (M1-T, M4AD) as I choose a next cycle plan. It seems to me that the rapid and strong effect of of a product like M1-T is countered by the fact that using 1-Test (transdermal) or 1-AD (oral) can be less harsh overall and continued for a longer cycle period in which gains are still made; perhaps even gains that are easier to keep as they were made over a 6-8 weeks period rather 2-4. And 4 weeks on M1-T, while it has often been done, just doesn't inspire me as a great idea overall.

Anyway, thanks for the responses.
 
RobInKuwait said:
Who are the two people who choose M4AD? I've never heard positive feedback about it and I want to know why you liked it.
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Hmmmm, its up to six for M4AD now. Who are these mystery lifters who like M4AD better than every other methyl:think: . It would be interesting to add the AAS 17As to this thread and post this again. It would also be interesting to see how things have changed since September. I know M5AA is not my favorite anymore, and the way people talk about M1T, I can't believe that over half the people prefer it over all other methyls.
 
I like M4OHN as much as I like MDien, and I like 'em quite a bit. I know many seem to disagree, but with proper/high dosing, I got excellent results. M1T is an anabolic flamethrower, and worked great for max gains. All things considered, however, these other 2 are better (for me). Little or no sides, less hazardous, and still effective in their own rights. Clearly not to compare to a M1T for blowing up, I got good moderate gains, hardening, and overall sense of well-being. M4OHN at 32-36mg/day, MDien at 10-12mg/day. Of course my personal goals in bodybuilding may be different from others.
 
milwood said:
I like M4OHN as much as I like MDien, and I like 'em quite a bit. I know many seem to disagree, but with proper/high dosing, I got excellent results. M1T is an anabolic flamethrower, and worked great for max gains. All things considered, however, these other 2 are better (for me). Little or no sides, less hazardous, and still effective in their own rights. Clearly not to compare to a M1T for blowing up, I got good moderate gains, hardening, and overall sense of well-being. M4OHN at 32-36mg/day, MDien at 10-12mg/day. Of course my personal goals in bodybuilding may be different from others.
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Level of agreement, 110% I have read many other viewpoints and respect their comments, BUT, M4OHN even at higher doses and for longer cycles, seems to be the best and safest thing I have ever seen. MDien is a close second with more explosive growth but also negative effects on ones libido.
 
Dutchman said:
Level of agreement, 110% I have read many other viewpoints and respect their comments, BUT, M4OHN even at higher doses and for longer cycles, seems to be the best and safest thing I have ever seen. MDien is a close second with more explosive growth but also negative effects on ones libido.
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I agree, Dutch... may I ask; what was your longest cycle duration/max dose? I am running a fina/M4OHN cycle next week.
 
riskarb said:
I agree, Dutch... may I ask; what was your longest cycle duration/max dose? I am running a fina/M4OHN cycle next week.
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My second, most recent cycle, was the longest/strongest. I did 47.5 mgs @ 4 doses ED (in a solution of Extra Virgin Olive Oil) for 12 weeks. I would have no problem doing it all over again, actually I plan on it!!!
 
Dutchman said:
My second, most recent cycle, was the longest/strongest. I did 47.5 mgs @ 4 doses ED (in a solution of Extra Virgin Olive Oil) for 12 weeks. I would have no problem doing it all over again, actually I plan on it!!!
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12 weeks? interesting!
which ancillaries did u use? (i mean both on cycle and during pct)
 
Dutchman said:
My second, most recent cycle, was the longest/strongest. I did 47.5 mgs @ 4 doses ED (in a solution of Extra Virgin Olive Oil) for 12 weeks. I would have no problem doing it all over again, actually I plan on it!!!
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Excellent, thanks for the info... curious as to the efficacy of the EVOO. I think I'll run 48mg this cycle.
 
i was thinking of getting in some m5aa, due to the fact im cutting and want that solid hard vascular look, but i have an extremely reliable source who can get 50mg BD winstrol tabs. im not sure which one to choose, the m5aa or the winny, considering my goals..... what would u guys suggest in my situation.

on a side note, which of these 2 are more liver toxic?

many thanks!
 
Syr said:
12 weeks? interesting!
which ancillaries did u use? (i mean both on cycle and during pct)
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I have a standard set of supps I run all year long. They include Green Tea, ALA, AlCAR, NAC, Milk Thistle, Hawthorn Berry, L-Carnosine, Beta-Sitosterol, Phyto-Sterols, Quercetin, Selenium, as well as a bunch of Vitamins, ZMA, etc etc.
 
riskarb said:
Excellent, th`nks for the info... curious as to the efficacy of the EVOO. I think I'll run 48mg this cycle.
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The EVOO I kept bottled in a cool corner and just shook it up before using. I had great results the entire time. I am just amazed after years of experimentation that two such outstanding and safe performance options like M4OHN and SD both pop up so close to the end of the "Golden Era".
 
Superdrol. I am getting AMAZING gains off it @ 20mgs/day and I am 223lbs, 32years old and 11-10% BF . On a cutting diet.
 
there is no way m-dien should be in next to last place as i feel that it should be ahead od mohn: better vascularity,enhanced pumps,more density and hardness, the dosage should be >20mg for best results. just my 0.02
 
Good to see M1,4AD getting some good reviews :cool:
 
About to start using the new Methyl1-p in september, so i hope that goes as well as my last 2 cycles. but it's hard to top those last 2 with this supposed 'non' prohormone, but progestine
 
your prob. 12 years old, and your little nut sack is still clinging to you like a girlfriend that sucks at life. Oh, you need to research. be smart, its the least you can do.
 
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