What will be coming up next?

jaymode

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I was reading on another board and I think there was mention by aflexaholic of a new product, I can't remember the name and the thread got deleted.

So I was just wondering if you guys could give us insight into what will be coming up next?
 
If I'm not mistaken, I recall Jason(Aflexaholic) mention that ALRI had received their initial run of N'Gorge, so I'd assume that will be for sale soon.
 
Guess he can post/pimp here now yes? I'd like to hear about new products or more details about current ones.
 
yes it was n-gorge. So since ALRI is now a board sponsor, I assume they can pimp their new products...so lets hear something about this product and anything else you all have coming out.
 
jaymode said:
yes it was n-gorge. So since ALRI is now a board sponsor, I assume they can pimp their new products...so lets hear something about this product and anything else you all have coming out.
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n gorge is correct name and i preordered some from jason mon and recieved it today.It is a Creatine Ethyl Ester and Nitric Oxide Synergistic complex. Label reads 4 caps: 2g Creatine ethyl ester
Proprietary Nitric Oxide Matrix 550mg
glutamine ethyl ester, citrulline malate, N(gamma)-hydroxy-L-arginine,
N(omega)-hydroxy-nor-L-argignine,L-norvaline.

thanks for the fast service Jason.
 
IRISHRYG said:
n gorge is correct name and i preordered some from jason mon and recieved it today.It is a Creatine Ethyl Ester and Nitric Oxide Synergistic complex. Label reads 4 caps: 2g Creatine ethyl ester
Proprietary Nitric Oxide Matrix 550mg
glutamine ethyl ester, citrulline malate, N(gamma)-hydroxy-L-arginine,
N(omega)-hydroxy-nor-L-argignine,L-norvaline.

thanks for the fast service Jason.
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Yes N'gorge is our newest baby to the market. We will have a write up on it by Monday, also NutraPlanet has this in stock.
 
Syr said:
Does the ethyl ester delivery makes glutammine a little bioavailable?
I'm very curious about this.

Cheers
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I am pretty sure that ALR is a supporter of glutamine, not exactly in the typical sense though. There is a section in "Building the Perfect Beast" that talks about it and his reasons why.
 
Ok I mean with only a 550 mg NO blend...how effective could it be? I would really like to seem someone do a log on it just to see, because to me that just seems like a really small amount in relation to most others.
 
RAVEN said:
ACTUALLY IT MAKES IT NEARLY 100% BIOAVAILABLE.
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Awright, Raven. Just 'cause you're a sponsor doesn't mean you get to keep the Caps Lock on!!
I'm just kidding (kinda!) Welcome to AM, again. But seriously, if you don't go lower-case, someone's gonna flame you!! Just be glad it is I, who do such things only with love!!!
 
rofl, I'm almost scared to ask Raven anymore questions for fear that the hounds of hell will be unleashed in a flurry of "caps-locked" madness!
 
Okay that does it BOW is now my favorite.

Geez whats with you guys and the cap button? What do ya think I am a secretary or something!!!lol


bow said:
COME ON GUYS, GIVE HER A BREAK ;)
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The goal of N-Gorge is not necessarily the most incredible mind blowing pumps in the world but more about sustained fullness of the muscle bellies. The dose of 550mg of NO complex is also taken 2 times a day yet still lasts 30 days.

I believe I mentioned this before but the complex is built not to interfere with CEE absorption which most do and will be explained in the write up I believe.

ALRI is not going to jump on any bandwagon and put out a NO complex just for pumps because lets face it. We want permenant muscle and not a 1 hour feeling of being bigger.
 
Derek_aka_Beast said:
Reference and backing for this statement?
This formula looks very intriguing.
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I am sure it will be on the write up. If not it will be in an article. We always list the references at the bottom for people to research themselves.
 
T-Bone said:
He is, he put you on the homepage of the website didn't he?
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My answer to that question is usually yes unless you think she is ugly. In which case I have no idea who that ugly chick is!!!lol
 
Let us know when the DATE RAVEN contest starts! ;)
 
MaNiaK1027 said:
Let us know when the DATE RAVEN contest starts! ;)
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judging by the action in this thread, it has alrieady begun. you are behind my friend, better get goin on your compliments

btw, raven, do you have a bandaid?

i think i skinned my knee when i fell for you. :lol:

anyway, back to the topic. i am also a little skeptical about it only being 550 mg, or i guess 1.1 g of the NO matrix. looking forward to some feedback. any idea on pricing, or will we just have to wait and see?
 
italionstallion said:
anyway, back to the topic. i am also a little skeptical about it only being 550 mg, or i guess 1.1 g of the NO matrix. looking forward to some feedback. any idea on pricing, or will we just have to wait and see?
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the amount per serving got me worried too.
 
aflexaholic said:
The goal of N-Gorge is not necessarily the most incredible mind blowing pumps in the world but more about sustained fullness of the muscle bellies. The dose of 550mg of NO complex is also taken 2 times a day yet still lasts 30 days.

I believe I mentioned this before but the complex is built not to interfere with CEE absorption which most do and will be explained in the write up I believe.

ALRI is not going to jump on any bandwagon and put out a NO complex just for pumps because lets face it. We want permenant muscle and not a 1 hour feeling of being bigger.
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This is a good thing, i like this attutude :)
Its only the CM amount that really makes me wonder. All the studies i've read about it report an optimal dose of 3g x 2 times a day.
 
Very interesting. I've actually had a manufactuer working on Glutamine Ethyl Ester HCL for over 6 months but they cannot get it to stabilize. Good job on being first to market with this; should be very successful for you.
 
custom said:
Very interesting. I've actually had a manufactuer working on Glutamine Ethyl Ester HCL for over 6 months but they cannot get it to stabilize. Good job on being first to market with this; should be very successful for you.
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why so much interest in new and improved glutamine, when there is so much discussion (especially here) about how little effect or need there is for glutamine? Will such a compound bring the glutamine debate back regarding whether or not it is useful?

p.s. Bobo is gonna snap... :blink:
 
milwood said:
why so much interest in new and improved glutamine, when there is so much discussion (especially here) about how little effect or need there is for glutamine? Will such a compound bring the glutamine debate back regarding whether or not it is useful?

p.s. Bobo is gonna snap... :blink:
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Sometimes you have to cater to the masses.
 
milwood said:
Will such a compound bring the glutamine debate back regarding whether or not it is useful?

p.s. Bobo is gonna snap... :blink:
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If you increase the bioavailability and splanchnic extraction then it could prove useful.
 
The level of Citrulline in any creatine product, or one that is used with one, needs to not exceed 1g. Why? Simply that the conversion of citrulline to arginine increases with dosage...and arginine decreases creatine absorption significantly. A lower dosage of citrulline was added and escorted by the ethyl ester analog of glutamine as a means of disallowing the levels in available arginine to pit to a point of ornithine conversion to arginine and subsequent loss of CCE cellualr availability.

With synergy in mind, the NO production is dependent upon arginase enzyme inhibition...not upon increased arginine in the body. The result is an increase in BOTH cellular creatine and localized NO to aid in both anabolic signaling and the ever loved pump.
 
Hmmm, if you have them please take a few minutes to read the write-up on N'Gorge at Invalid Link Removed and the posts above. It may explain the unasked questions for you. If not, then please ask.

Thanks...
 
O.K., so what is coming next!!!! ALR dropped one hint of something for next month. How about you guys drop another hint and start the frenzy?
 
We do have another goodie that will compliment Max LMG nicely but I cannot release any info at this point :) It will definitly be worth it though I can promise.



Mr.50 said:
O.K., so what is coming next!!!! ALR dropped one hint of something for next month. How about you guys drop another hint and start the frenzy?
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I just pulled all of my hair out!:frustrate :lol:



aflexaholic said:
We do have another goodie that will compliment Max LMG nicely but I cannot release any info at this point :) It will definitly be worth it though I can promise.
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aflexaholic said:
We do have another goodie that will compliment Max LMG nicely but I cannot release any info at this point :) It will definitly be worth it though I can promise.
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Grrr.....

Alright welll I will start the line of questioning...when? what? where? how?


j/k, but if you want to chime in on them feel free.
 
Author L. Rea said:
The level of Citrulline in any creatine product, or one that is used with one, needs to not exceed 1g. Why? Simply that the conversion of citrulline to arginine increases with dosage...and arginine decreases creatine absorption significantly. A lower dosage of citrulline was added and escorted by the ethyl ester analog of glutamine as a means of disallowing the levels in available arginine to pit to a point of ornithine conversion to arginine and subsequent loss of CCE cellualr availability.

With synergy in mind, the NO production is dependent upon arginase enzyme inhibition...not upon increased arginine in the body. The result is an increase in BOTH cellular creatine and localized NO to aid in both anabolic signaling and the ever loved pump.
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Will this problem be avoided if the CM is taken separately from the CEE by a few hours, like CM morning and night and CEE in the afternoon, pre-workout?
This is the protocol I currently follow.
 
Syr said:
Will this problem be avoided if the CM is taken separately from the CEE by a few hours, like CM morning and night and CEE in the afternoon, pre-workout?
This is the protocol I currently follow.
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If the goal is to avoid the lack of cellular uptake of creatine supplements but you still want to use arginine or citrulline in dosages exceeding 1g, then a creatine with a far shorter half-life than an ester is needed. Creatine monohydrate or creatine citrate as example both have a half-life of only about 90 minutes. So you could dose the creatine and citrulline/arginine 3 hours apart without the loss. However this also means that the muscle cells also only get a short period to absorb either which is not very effective in comparison.
 
Author L. Rea said:
If the goal is to avoid the lack of cellular uptake of creatine supplements but you still want to use arginine or citrulline in dosages exceeding 1g, then a creatine with a far shorter half-life than an ester is needed. Creatine monohydrate or creatine citrate as example both have a half-life of only about 90 minutes. So you could dose the creatine and citrulline/arginine 3 hours apart without the loss. However this also means that the muscle cells also only get a short period to absorb either which is not very effective in comparison.
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Uhm... I dont respond to other forms of creatine, only CEE does something to me.

I take Citrulline for the reduction of lactic acid that helps me with fatigue notably, and I was following the recommended doses from the french studies of a few years ago, which suggest 6+grams ED, splitted in 2 doses. I dont care about the NO pumping effects at all. My scientific knowledge is quite limited and I'm not sure if the effect of CM i stated above is due to conversion to arginine or its another effect of CM.

Now, my doubt is if its worth to take CEE while one is dosing CM in this way (which is the most common for people getting it in bulk).
 
Syr said:
Uhm... I dont respond to other forms of creatine, only CEE does something to me.

I take Citrulline for the reduction of lactic acid that helps me with fatigue notably, and I was following the recommended doses from the french studies of a few years ago, which suggest 6+grams ED, splitted in 2 doses. I dont care about the NO pumping effects at all. My scientific knowledge is quite limited and I'm not sure if the effect of CM i stated above is due to conversion to arginine or its another effect of CM.

Now, my doubt is if its worth to take CEE while one is dosing CM in this way (which is the most common for people getting it in bulk).
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Sorry, but not really.
 
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