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What products would you like to see us make?

How about a less expensive version of lg sciences new methyl masterdrol xl. I here good things at a real high dose and a long cycle. How about a bottle of 180 caps at 34.99. That my friend is a sweet deal. In fact get them shipped to NP so I can place my order for 2 bottles. Merry Christmas to you!
 
RUNNER 67 said:
How about a less expensive version of lg sciences new methyl masterdrol xl. I here good things at a real high dose and a long cycle. How about a bottle of 180 caps at 34.99. That my friend is a sweet deal. In fact get them shipped to NP so I can place my order for 2 bottles. Merry Christmas to you!
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This would be great if you did a clone of MMv2 that did not have the yohimbine or yohimbe in it.
 
I would love a good Anti -e, for use during pct, and like has been mentioned, a non methyl pro-hormone/steroid, for stacking, that is well dosed. Deca, or and equipoise, version, or maybe 1-ad, or even a combination of a couple, something along these lines.
 
russianstar said:
I would love a good Anti -e, for use during pct, and like has been mentioned, a non methyl pro-hormone/steroid, for stacking, that is well dosed. Deca, or and equipoise, version, or maybe 1-ad, or even a combination of a couple, something along these lines.
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6bromo

nuff said
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
Just to make sure everyone is on the same page, what is the main active you are asking for?
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3-Beta-Hydroxyetiollocholan-17-One and Epihydroxyetioallocholan-17One ethyl ester I believe these are two names for the same active. I think the active is also referred to as epi-androsterone.
 
AML said:
3-Beta-Hydroxyetiollocholan-17-One and Epihydroxyetioallocholan-17One ethyl ester I believe these are two names for the same active. I think the active is also referred to as epi-androsterone.
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yes its epiandrosterone thats the active in MMv2
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
I wanted to get some ideas from people as to what they products they would like to see from us over the next couple months.

We are open to making other hormonal items as well as we will be introducing a full line up of non-hormonal items.
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Well, this thread started 08/08/2008 (more than 4 months ago), so finally CEL will launch any new hormonal (apart from a clone of M1,4ADD)?
 
JBerto said:
Well, this thread started 08/08/2008 (more than 4 months ago), so finally CEL will launch any new hormonal (apart from a clone of M1,4ADD)?
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Lol yeah fo real!!!!! results!>!?!?!?!? Im already a buyer if so I already have a huge stash of yalls stuff.
 
JBerto said:
Well, this thread started 08/08/2008 (more than 4 months ago), so finally CEL will launch any new hormonal (apart from a clone of M1,4ADD)?
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You have to remember, the olympics fell in september so there was pretty much no raw material sourcing on hormonals for a month there. Plus, it does take time to find some of these items and to test them, etc

We have quite a few new products coming out by the end of january. Some hormonal, some not.
 
This is the signs of a great company. Asking the people, what they want, instead of just tossing out whatever they feel like....though so far you have tossed out what we all want :) lol
 
kjkriston said:
Would the m1t azine work the same? or even be legal?
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wjb33 said:
I'm all for some Azinated products...

There was a recent thread at BBing.com that had PA and Sledge talking about this being feasible.
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Yes. In a thread at bb.com PA said it would be legal. They says 1,4-androstadienedione, Estra-4 9-Diene-3 17-Dione, 19-norandrostenedione, 1-testosterone and M1T can be azinated cause it has a ketone group, and it would be legal:

Patrick Arnold said:
the ASC 2004 prohibits esters and ethers and salts of steroids on the list. Hydrolyazble nitrogenous ketone derivatives are not included nor are other ketone derivatives such as ketals

it really was a stupid oversight
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ok what does azinated mean. I have tried researching it, but all I get from google is a bunch of World of Warcraft clan sites.... guessing thats not it -.-
 
Zero V said:
ok what does azinated mean. I have tried researching it, but all I get from google is a bunch of World of Warcraft clan sites.... guessing thats not it -.-
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Here its explained:
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Side effects are far less pronounced due to the azine bond. Because the azine bond keeps the two dimethyl masteron molecules together longer it reduces the sides. The faster the active is released the more sides. So the key to dymethazine is that it slowly releases the active ingredient to reduce the sides.
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So basically it increase half life and decrease hepatic toxicity due to the slower release.... so think in M1T-azinated (for example): same effects than "normal" M1T but legal and with a lot less hepatic sides!!!)
 
JBerto said:
Here its explained:
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So basically it increase half life and decrease hepatic toxicity due to the slower release.... so think in M1T-azinated (for example): same effects than "normal" M1T but legal and with a lot less hepatic sides!!!)
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I see. But wouldn't a slower release mean you would have to up the dose since it would be spread out over time? And then wouldn't you still get similar sides from the higher dose?

This is interesting though. M1T was gone before I got into this stuff....and it could come back?
 
Zero V said:
I see. But wouldn't a slower release mean you would have to up the dose since it would be spread out over time? And then wouldn't you still get similar sides from the higher dose?
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No, you have in your body the same amount of mg of the anabolic compound, but for 16 hours instead of 8 hours (for example), so i think the "anabolic power" is the same mg per mg

Zero V said:
This is interesting though. M1T was gone before I got into this stuff....and it could come back?
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Yeah, for what i've read M1T was great, but too much hepatoxic, and now is banned, but M1T-azinated would be legal, with the same effects, and with very low hepatoxicity.


BTW, anyone knows if the "azine-bond" could join 2 different compounds if both have a ketone group?

For example: SD+"azine bond"+M1T

???
 
JBerto said:
Yeah, for what i've read M1T was great, but too much hepatoxic, and now is banned, but M1T-azinated would be legal, with the same effects, and with very low hepatoxicity.
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Are you sure on this? I know that is the case for the SD molecules, but M1t is a lot more harsh than SD.
 
wjb33 said:
Are you sure on this? I know that is the case for the SD molecules, but M1t is a lot more harsh than SD.
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Correct. I know M1T is more harsh than SD, what i said is M1T-azinated would be less harsh than M1T "normal" (I was comparing M1T-azinated with "normal" M1T, I wasn't comparing M1T-azinated with SD-azinated (Dymethazine). I think M1T-azinated would be a lot less hepatoxic than M1T.
 
JBerto said:
For example: SD+"azine bond"+M1T

???
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Holy tater logs batman, is that really possible?

hmmm... I can see the hybrids now. Guess they wont be as bad as the methyl cocktails out now. But doesn't mean you can only have as much of one substance as the other?
 
Zero V said:
Holy tater logs batman, is that really possible?

hmmm... I can see the hybrids now. Guess they wont be as bad as the methyl cocktails out now. But doesn't mean you can only have as much of one substance as the other?
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It's only an idea, i'm not chem so i don't know it that is even possible, but it would be interesting.

Imagine that: The anabolic effects of SD + M1T but a lot less harsh!!!

And yes, i think if SD+azine+M1T (or any other "mix") is possible then i suppose it must have the same mgs of both compounds.

But I repeat that I am not a chem and do not know if it is possible. It is only an idea (maybe a stupid idea).

Anyway i think M1T-azinated would be interesting, and that is legal and possible.
 
I know its just an idea. But an interesting one. Wonder what kind of effects it would have on PCT.

I will be happy with old banned substances coming back period. lol.
 
JBerto said:
W M1T-azine?
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Wouldnt that still technically be illegal under the language of the original ban?


There are alot of ideas that sound good, but its really a matter of the raw materials coming available for them. That is the real key is being able to have them made or finding them.
 
anavar

is there any plan for a non methylated pro-hormone/designer anavar? i believe it was cel that had one planned a year or so back, i am guessing there is difficulty with this or it would definetly be out there?, given the desirability of anavar.
 
Could we try this...

17-BETA-HYDROXY-ANDROSTAN-4-ONE

Pretty good molecular structure, non methyl, very powerfull, similar to tren, and m1t.
 
JBerto said:
But what's that?

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My brother viktor is running it after his sponsors sent him some to log, and he has gained 1lb after 5 days, increased body temp to 37.8c, and he feels his endurance and strength are going up, but he hasnt sent me any proof of that yet, after a few weeks we can see how effective it is.
 
soj said:
is there any plan for a non methylated pro-hormone/designer anavar? i believe it was cel that had one planned a year or so back, i am guessing there is difficulty with this or it would definetly be out there?, given the desirability of anavar.
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We are very interested in bringing out some non-methyls, but no, we never had anything like what you are referring to planned.
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
We are very interested in bringing out some non-methyls, but no, we never had anything like what you are referring to planned.
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why not taking some of the old good non-methyl stuff (banned now), adding an azine to it (to make it legal) and start selling it?
 
JBerto said:
why not taking some of the old good non-methyl stuff (banned now), adding an azine to it (to make it legal) and start selling it?
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Alot of that would just come down to what raw material suppliers could provide us with. If it is available, we'd be glad to look into it.
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
Which is the correct technical name, what you listed or 17-beta-hydroxy-5a-androstan-4-one?
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I have emailed my brother but he hasnt replied yet. Apparently its actions are very similar to M1t but drier and without the methyl so its safer, im quite excited about the structure, it looks very potent if it can be assimilated in the human organism, the way the compound suggests.
 
russianstar said:
I have emailed my brother but he hasnt replied yet. Apparently its actions are very similar to M1t but drier and without the methyl so its safer, im quite excited about the structure, it looks very potent if it can be assimilated in the human organism, the way the compound suggests.
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How many mgs per dose are taking your brother? The name of the compund is "Tren Bomb"?
 
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