What products would you like to see us make?

might as well make the NorAndrostene-3b-ol, 17-one trans D while your at it too:D

folks could then run their ph equiv to a deca/test cycle or deca/test/1-test..

biggest thing for me would be that any of these be at a reasonable dose.... yes trans D will have a much better active amount BUT these from their current sources now are all significantly underdosed IMO

I wouldnt even have taken their first generation one conversion versions at that low of a dose...
 
I think the only way to make em work is bind them in cyclodextrin... dunno what can or cannot be done this way... I know its a waste usually as most all steroids/ph's are lipophilic and the pores in the mouth are all hydro... now making a nasal sspray.....
 
poopypants said:
I think the only way to make em work is bind them in cyclodextrin... dunno what can or cannot be done this way... I know its a waste usually as most all steroids/ph's are lipophilic and the pores in the mouth are all hydro... now making a nasal sspray.....
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I like the promise of sublingual but for test/test precursors I think dermal would be better being that the test precursors typically have such a short half life (2-3hr) orally. Dermally it would likely be around 12hrs so dosing twice a day would be ideal.
 
exactly, the Trans D def has the added benifit of slow absorbtion on top of more available :thumbsup:

Id def prefer it for almost any applicaiton that oral isnt best.
 
Old 1-test back in the day was such an irritant to my skin and i had to bathe in it, especially if i wanted to dose 4-ad with it, thats the only drawback. If you guys could make the dermals pleasing or with a pretty potent dosage id be in. Untill then id rather use caps as lathering myself in lotion that irritates my skin, burns my eyes, and dries out my skin just isnt for me! :nutkick::lol:
 
maybe it was the specific dermal solution/solvents used??? Ive used penetrate from NP with 4-AD powder and it had no burn sting itch or drynes.... might be the compound itself???
 
poopypants said:
maybe it was the specific dermal solution/solvents used??? Ive used penetrate from NP with 4-AD powder and it had no burn sting itch or drynes.... might be the compound itself???
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ive heard its from 1test itself. Is it true even when you piss it has an irritation feelin?
 
pistonpump said:
ive heard its from 1test itself. Is it true even when you piss it has an irritation feelin?
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I only got that feeling from 1ad, never got the burning sensation from 1-test i dont beleive, also 1-test is a irritant to the skin which is why i cant stand it in a dermal! lol

Id like to see some combined though even though i know you guys at CEL dont do that but itd be such a pain to have to put on 1andro lotion, then 4ad lotion, where if you sold em togethor itd be easier. Reguardless id still buy some!

Im about to use your guys hdrol :thumbsup:
 
3clipseGT said:
You guys could always go for 1,4-androsterone, that would turn into 1,4androstene diol and dione i believe. I bet thatd be pretty popular!
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That's an interesting idea :thumbsup:

I wonder if Methyl 1,4-Androsterone would work :think:
 
AML said:
It would probably be great on the joints and tendons. I read on this forum that deca can strengthen tendons which would be a plus.
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Yes, as would a methyl 1,4-androsterone from aromitazation :thumbsup:
 
but what would the methyl group do for its actual action? see methy 1 test and 1 test..... totally diff.

Also youve methylated the starting product and still hve to mega dose that product to make the conversion rates worth while... so I dont want to be poppin 100's of mg's of a methyl that will give off who knows what other metabolites along the way that may be much more toxic then the starting or ending compounds themselves.... (ie methyl estrogen from dianabol)

has there even been a methyl deca ever????
 
poopypants said:
but what would the methyl group do for its actual action? see methy 1 test and 1 test..... totally diff.

Also youve methylated the starting product and still hve to mega dose that product to make the conversion rates worth while... so I dont want to be poppin 100's of mg's of a methyl that will give off who knows what other metabolites along the way that may be much more toxic then the starting or ending compounds themselves.... (ie methyl estrogen from dianabol)

has there even been a methyl deca ever????
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Wasn't there a Methyl Nordiol years ago? Otherwise I'd suppose the target would look something like Nilevar.
 
has there even been a methyl deca ever????[/QUOTE]

Nilevar and I think M4OHN (methylhydroxynandrolone)
 
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shweet but as I remember M4OHN wasnt all that potent as it stood.. doubt a step to convert to that first THEN to methyl deca is going to be all that effective and or healhy with how high youll have to dose a methyl. JMO thats not a good one to pursue....
 
I think making it methylated would make it on the border of not legal although they are DSHEA compliant as of right now, the androsterones that is.

You could do a 7a-methyl 1,4androsterone and im pretty sure you would probly bypass the toxification of a 17aa.
 
3clipseGT said:
I think making it methylated would make it on the border of not legal although they are DSHEA compliant as of right now, the androsterones that is.

You could do a 7a-methyl 1,4androsterone and im pretty sure you would probly bypass the toxification of a 17aa.
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Good idea. And the 7a-methyl group prevent 5a-reductase.
 
3clipseGT said:
I think making it methylated would make it on the border of not legal although they are DSHEA compliant as of right now, the androsterones that is.

You could do a 7a-methyl 1,4androsterone and im pretty sure you would probly bypass the toxification of a 17aa.
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Nice, having 7a-methyl would increase oral bio-availability without the super toxic liver issues. I'd like to see some (any) type of Sten for similar reasons - with the 2a-methyl group Stenbolone would likely have decent oral bio-availability without having to add 17aa. Even just adding an ester seems to take a scheduled AAS into the quasi-legal grey area :thumbsup:
 
grila jujitsu said:
so is furazadrol a pro steroid to furazabol?
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Baically it's just non-methyl Furazabol with an added tetrahydropyranol ether to enhance oral bio-availability / 1st pass metabolism.

Same with Prostanozol clones - non-methyl Stanozolol with the added tetrahydropyranol ether. I'm surprised this hasn't been tried with more compounds.
 
Why were Prostanazol and Orastan-E discontinued anyway? Granted you need high doses of it but personally I really like it. So I wouldn't mind seeing CEL come out with one.
 
Ziquor said:
Baically it's just non-methyl Furazabol with an added tetrahydropyranol ether to enhance oral bio-availability / 1st pass metabolism.

Same with Prostanozol clones - non-methyl Stanozolol with the added tetrahydropyranol ether. I'm surprised this hasn't been tried with more compounds.
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for real!
 
So i that case...a non- methyl oxandrolone is possible with some other ether? thp?


Definitely the methyl 1,4 add( d-bol/EQ precursor(love that stuff!)


I 2nd the MORE WET COMPOUNDS demand! Something thats non-methyl. (Something that gives size and strength like 13-ethyl-3methoxygona-2, 5(10)-dien-17-one MaxLMG/XMass) w/ out the libido issues! umm so basically legal testosterone... ;)
 
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