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What happened to Versa-1, already forgotten?

996ttelise said:
Shady man, your shady and the fact that you either don't get it or refuse to get it is disconcerting.
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What's disconcerting is the fact that you can't understand a simple concept like burden of proof. Ironically, it's the USADA that looks shady as they don't have anything to substantiate their claims on any of the products on that list. Then again, what do I know? I don't have such an impressive legal resume such as yourself. /sarcasm
 
mw1 said:
Or how about a USP rep just simply denying it??
I would never buy it so it doesnt really matter to me one way or another but if customers are curious why cant they just acknowledge the question
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They still trying to figure out the answer to the first question: what does the product do? :P Lulz. I kid I kid... sort of.
 
Rodja said:
What's disconcerting is the fact that you can't understand a simple concept like burden of proof. Ironically, it's the USADA that looks shady as they don't have anything to substantiate their claims on any of the products on that list. Then again, what do I know? I don't have such an impressive legal resume such as yourself. /sarcasm
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That alright man. Don't sell yourself so short. The world needs ditch diggers too.
 
996ttelise said:
That alright man. Don't sell yourself so short. The world needs ditch diggers too.
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Wow. Shouldn't your issues be completely directed at USPLabs reps in PMs rather than you outburst of demands here and then going off on people whom do not agree with your paranoia? I mean, if you are concerned about it and can't find answers, then simply don't bother even considering the product. Not a far off concept to grasp here.
 
I've seen that list on the USADA but take it as a grain of salt.

From PA:

it appears to me that they did all these tests without proper handling of samples and instruments and everything just ended up getting contaminated (if you dont clean stuff well between sample preps and runs you will have ghost peaks in everything). And knowing usada they dont care, and they probably are more than happy to post fautly information to cause confusion amoungst athletes regarding supplements.
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PATRICK ARNOLD for president......fda commishioner at the very least!!!!


or secretary of defense...PA would give new meaning to chemical warfare...hell yeah!!!
 
996ttelise said:
What in the world are you talking about. If you have no independent verification about what is in Versa 1, then kindly move on and let someone that does speak on an informed basis.

I simply asked if USP can unequivocally state that ph is not in there. Candidly, you reflect very badly on PES if they endorse your sidestepping straight forward questions about contents or your trying to hide the ball as to what is truly in products. I hope PES does not share your mentality, but then again do reps really know what is in every batch of every product.
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The USADA list is absolute hogwash.

The notion that there is methylclostebol in versa-1 is absurd.

The FDA already picks over USPLabs with a fine toothed comb over their protest of the FDAs stance on DMAA, do you honestly think they'd put a highly potent steroid in a product off-label, with no attempt to mask it whatsoever?

That's ludicrous.
 
So Versa 1 either works and it is completely because of steroids or it doesn't do a dang thing?

At least we have it down to one of those two :)
 
Geoforce said:
So Versa 1 either works and it is completely because of steroids or it doesn't do a dang thing?

At least we have it down to one of those two :)
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It definitely aids with cortisol control. And as far as fat burning aegeline is a beta 3 agonist which in humans doesn't show to do much but I honestly feel it does
 
I wish Versa 1 had methylclostebol lol, I bought 2 bottles from the release deal and got no results whatsoever. Maybe SLIGHT focus from the choline. At least USPlabs has Oxyelite pro and Jack3d.
 
My neutral stance on the issue: USADA is bullcrap.
I love USPlabs and PES and they're my goto supps!
Tried Versa 1 but I didn't feel much if anything.. it may have affected me but I didn't feel it..
All of this back and forth COULD be handled by a rep just denying the claim.. just sayin.. its pretty simple..
Does look like contamination during testing by the USADA..
 
AlexErdellan said:
I wish Versa 1 had methylclostebol lol, I bought 2 bottles from the release deal and got no results whatsoever. Maybe SLIGHT focus from the choline. At least USPlabs has Oxyelite pro and Jack3d.
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Ha ha, they got you for 2 bottles. :P

The OEP Advanced with the forskolin-95 in it looks pretty legit though.
 
EBF Inc said:
Wtf I didn't see that!
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Think it came out this week or something. Confusing as hell.

You have the original OEP (discontinued), then you have the new OEP, then you have the OEP powder which is a different profile, and now OEP Advanced. It's bananas at USPLabs but they are upping their game with their formulations. I like the direction they are going even though it feels like they are kind of borrowing heavily from PES :P
 
kissdadookie said:
Think it came out this week or something. Confusing as hell.

You have the original OEP (discontinued), then you have the new OEP, then you have the OEP powder which is a different profile, and now OEP Advanced. It's bananas at USPLabs but they are upping their game with their formulations. I like the direction they are going even though it feels like they are kind of borrowing heavily from PES :P
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Yo I got 2 oep new formula on the way. I used oep powder and og.

Now I need to find this one. Run the new formula and this formula together at 2 caps of each

Stim junky here lol
 
kissdadookie said:
Think it came out this week or something. Confusing as hell.

You have the original OEP (discontinued), then you have the new OEP, then you have the OEP powder which is a different profile, and now OEP Advanced. It's bananas at USPLabs but they are upping their game with their formulations. I like the direction they are going even though it feels like they are kind of borrowing heavily from PES :P
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borrowing heavily from pes seems to be the trend.....
 
I'm almost 3 weeks into versa 1. After about a week I upped to 2 caps per day. I it does ***something but I'm not sure it's worth the money. Tbh. I can definitely say it does increase the potency and duration of the stims you use it with.

Keeps you in the game during workouts but again not sure it's enough to be worth it the money. But if you're ballin then by all means.

It DOES work. I can honestly say that. But it also doesn't live up to the original hype. I'd give it a 6/10 if you double dose it
 
I love anything with Forskolin in it. Advanced looks much better than the post 1,3 reformulation.
 
Usplabs been pumping out products like crazy recently.. I remember the old days where they only had jack3d and oxyelite.
 
Frosty415 said:
Usplabs been pumping out products like crazy recently.. I remember the old days where they only had jack3d and oxyelite.
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powerful and cissus were around long before those 2!!!
 
EBF Inc said:
Hey! **** you. I want it! Like tomorrow sending addy now ;)
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Haha wish I had some to spare brother. I need to grab more with the NP intro sale to finish my contest prep with a solid 8 week run. :thumbsup:
 
dtrain13 said:
STFU.
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Haha, spoken like a true loser who has never competed in anything in their life.Us people that actually devote our lives to being real athletes don't need this bs. I think going after the distributors like Vitamin Shop plus reps pushing spiked products might help protect real athletes.
 
996ttelise said:
Haha, spoken like a true loser who has never competed in anything in their life.Us people that actually devote our lives to being real athletes don't need this bs. I think going after the distributors like Vitamin Shop plus reps pushing spiked products might help protect real athletes.
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Lolz.



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...all this hate and seriousness over the interwebz :( what has AM come to?

Let's sing "Kumbaya" :D!
 
kissdadookie said:
Why don't your vote with your money? If you're suspicious of a product, don't use it. Pretty simple concept here.
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I still don't get his "contact info" request...is he gonna send Versa-1 to someone...or is he gonna try to find him/her and try to be all macho about it? Either way...what's the point. He doesn't trust/like a supplement...don't use it, plain and simple.

Now if he came to us saying someone is putting a gun to his head to try it, or make someone try it...then that would be slightly different, but since no one is; well you get my point.
 
Jiigzz said:
Calm down bro, its the internet.
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LiveToLift said:
SMH....
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Celorza said:
...all this hate and seriousness over the interwebz :( what has AM come to?

Let's sing "Kumbaya" :D!
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Right? Dude can't even post internet memes around here anymore.

Which is a shame because that's kinda my thing :biglaugh:

996ttelise said:
No worries. If you find it entertaining please forward your contact info.
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It is extremely entertaining.

But I wonder these things as well.

Celorza said:
I still don't get his "contact info" request...is he gonna send Versa-1 to someone...or is he gonna try to find him/her and try to be all macho about it? Either way...what's the point. He doesn't trust/like a supplement...don't use it, plain and simple.

Now if he came to us saying someone is putting a gun to his head to try it, or make someone try it...then that would be slightly different, but since no one is; well you get my point.
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jimbuick said:
Right? Dude can't even post internet memes around here anymore.

Which is a shame because that's kinda my thing :biglaugh:


It is extremely entertaining.

But I wonder these things as well.
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Oh yeah...well then...

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:p!
 
996ttelise said:
Haha, spoken like a true loser who has never competed in anything in their life.Us people that actually devote our lives to being real athletes don't need this bs. I think going after the distributors like Vitamin Shop plus reps pushing spiked products might help protect real athletes.
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i disagree 100%...if they go after distributors and reps pushing suppossedly spiked products....what will the Real athletes use for an excuse when they pop positive for a REAL drug test???? i mean it's not like REAL athletes aren't using REAL performance enhancing drug's

with all of the REAL athletes in the news for abuse of controlled drugs your post seems naive at best....REAL athletes my ass, dick butkus in his prime wouldn't even make the team in todays nfl if he wasn't on ped's.
 
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