jfigliuolo
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That's not a negative sign... its a tilde it means approximately
We cuttin now ✂️
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Smont
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I forgot to include that Todays fasted weight was
189. 8! My midsection is starting to come together the way I was hoping it would look before I went on vacation, I definitely look deflated a little. We were talking at the gym yesterday morning and they asked me why I'm trying to cut so much right now, I told them my goals and I got the dreaded response lol. You already look a lot smaller then you normally do
. It was a middle age/older woman, so I know she's trying to give me a compliment but you know how that one goes over lol. When I told them I was trying to get down to 175 to 178 lb they kind of looked at me like I was crazy though. They don't seem to think I'm going to be able to cut that much weight. It always baffles me the limitations in people's minds. I was 190 when we were having the conversation and the goal weight being 175-178 is 12-15 lb, I got lower back and oblique fat and inner thigh fat I can spare. (there's no actual goal weight, I just assume that's where il end up to get to 8ish%)
I still haven't taken pics, you guys know I'm always posting my progress pics but 3 things keep happening lol.
1. I'm not lifting nearly as much and im doing much more cardio and conditioning, after a workout I usually don't mind taking off my shirt snapping a few pictures, but when you're soaking wet drenched in sweat I don't want to take that shirt off unless I have a dry shirt to put on afterwards and a lot of times I'm in a rush and I don't so I've just been throwing on a nasty hooded sweatshirt for the ride home and then hop in the shower. I'm a 2min ride and the men's room only has 2 shower stalls so most the time I don't even bother. So I'm basically just not taking pictures like I normally do.
2. I'm not super excited to take pictures as I'm getting smaller
3. I honestly just keep forgetting, there's nothing slapping me in the face saying hey you should take a picture of this so I just forget to do it. I haven't even been taking pictures of my weight on the scale like I normally do.
Il get some up this week
189. 8! My midsection is starting to come together the way I was hoping it would look before I went on vacation, I definitely look deflated a little. We were talking at the gym yesterday morning and they asked me why I'm trying to cut so much right now, I told them my goals and I got the dreaded response lol. You already look a lot smaller then you normally do
. It was a middle age/older woman, so I know she's trying to give me a compliment but you know how that one goes over lol. When I told them I was trying to get down to 175 to 178 lb they kind of looked at me like I was crazy though. They don't seem to think I'm going to be able to cut that much weight. It always baffles me the limitations in people's minds. I was 190 when we were having the conversation and the goal weight being 175-178 is 12-15 lb, I got lower back and oblique fat and inner thigh fat I can spare. (there's no actual goal weight, I just assume that's where il end up to get to 8ish%)I still haven't taken pics, you guys know I'm always posting my progress pics but 3 things keep happening lol.
1. I'm not lifting nearly as much and im doing much more cardio and conditioning, after a workout I usually don't mind taking off my shirt snapping a few pictures, but when you're soaking wet drenched in sweat I don't want to take that shirt off unless I have a dry shirt to put on afterwards and a lot of times I'm in a rush and I don't so I've just been throwing on a nasty hooded sweatshirt for the ride home and then hop in the shower. I'm a 2min ride and the men's room only has 2 shower stalls so most the time I don't even bother. So I'm basically just not taking pictures like I normally do.
2. I'm not super excited to take pictures as I'm getting smaller
3. I honestly just keep forgetting, there's nothing slapping me in the face saying hey you should take a picture of this so I just forget to do it. I haven't even been taking pictures of my weight on the scale like I normally do.
Il get some up this week
Smont
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That didn't even cross my mind, it's not something I use. But thank you, I am now slightly less stupid moving forward lol
Smont
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Tomorrow is a double session, boxing at noon and high rep push and heavy bag in the evening.
Tuesday and Thursday are lifting/conditioning and heavy bag work
Wednesday and Friday I have nothing planned but they're probably going to end up being high intensity cardio days. Saturday is more lifting/conditioning and heavy bag work in the morning
Tuesday and Thursday are lifting/conditioning and heavy bag work
Wednesday and Friday I have nothing planned but they're probably going to end up being high intensity cardio days. Saturday is more lifting/conditioning and heavy bag work in the morning
sammpedd88
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Can’t ever go wrong with a pop tart but over Super Stuffed ones…..damn that’s another level of good!
Hyde
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Be careful with those.
From a bodybuilding perspective, if you just get leaner you simply don’t need them (that’s what John Meadows always preached). Just be ready & take your conditioning seriously.
If you’re making weight for a strength contest, we have dropped 10% bodyweight with my wife many times without them, and put back on more than that by contest 24 hours later without the use of IVs. If you know what you are doing, diuretics are entirely unnecessary.
Smont
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I personally avoid them myself. They absolutely have a place, but I don't really have a place for them in the things that I do. I don't particularly hold a ton of water either. Even on compounds that normally bloat people up. I have used them in small amounts with people who wanted to try them and I definitely can see the results, but me personally, especially with all the high intensity cardio I do and the sparring and the running I don't want to take any chances. I'm usually dehydrated if I'm not paying attention anyways
MrKleen73
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Poptarts... YUM!
As much as they have shrunk these I imagine you are getting as much filling as used to come in the regular ones, but just thinner breading. It is wild how they shrink the items, AND lower the actual quantity while raising the prices. Still sounds good, I already decided if I am getting poptarts again, THEY WILL BE SUPPER STUFFED!!!!
Actually, I think these might be a part of my upcoming weekend carb up!!!!
sammpedd88
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Shrink-flation at its best! I look at super stuffed pop tarts like double stuffed Oreos, regular ones aren’t worth buying when you have double/super stuffed!
Smont
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They definitely have shrunk the regular Pop-Tarts but the stuffed ones have way more than the old Pop-Tarts used to. And even though there's five of the stuffed ones in a box instead of six of the little ones the total weight of the box is more and the total calories of the box are less the fat is lower as well too so if you eat one whole box versus one whole box you're still winning with the stuffed ones
Smont
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As expected I woke up very dry and kinda full, I fell asleep and was like 100gm of carbs short still and missed some of the water intake and woke up with the bubble guts.
All of these were expected lol. The metformin plays a role in it but so does the carb load after no fiber all day.
190.2
Goal this week is to get a little bit more aggressive and cut 3-4lbs before repeating the weekend process.
All of these were expected lol. The metformin plays a role in it but so does the carb load after no fiber all day.
190.2
Goal this week is to get a little bit more aggressive and cut 3-4lbs before repeating the weekend process.
Hyde
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MrKleen73
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Oh wow! Cinnamon Caramel!!!!! I have never even seen these, but I know what I am going to look for!!!!Cinnamon Caramel is the gooey-est! Had 2 Saturday and 1 on Sunday
sammpedd88
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I haven’t either. I usually go for the brown sugar cinnamon ones or strawberry. Cinnamon Carmel sounds good!
sammpedd88
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Ramen-Pho-dumpling soup!
Smont
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Let's make some notes.
10-14-26
189.8
I'm down to 25mg test and 25mg trest per week! I still have not started any fat burners or new supplements. I stopped taking NAC and tudca, I'm dropping all supplements and vitamins for the next week or so and will be stopping/severely limiting caffeine for 2 or 3 days leading into my blood work. I've been pretty consistently under 400 mg with the exception of like one day a week when I work a double with driving I end up grabbing two monsters
No more itchy nips since week 2 ended, no side effects to note except lathery outside of the gym. I'm fine in the gym doing high intensity cardio and conditioning. Light weight high rep everything except when I'm doing explosive stuff I keep it limited to about 4 to 8 reps.
Everything is starting to look good. I'm starting to like what I'm seeing. My waist and midsection are shrinking and even though I'm not built up to my normal on cycle size, I'm still muscular enough that the fat loss is making everything else look bigger and start to pop a little bit. Vascularity is increasing as well. So I think I'm getting to that point where getting leaner is starting to create an illusion. I would love to say I probably only need to drop another three or four pounds but I think I need to lose another 10 to 12 if I want to be ripped for real. Like I could cut water right now and give the illusion that I'm shredded but I know it'll be short-lived. I wake up pretty dry and ripped in the morning and kind of faded by noon.
Back to the to the lethargic feeling, it's weird. I'm doing about 1 hour high intensity cardio 5x week, I'm doing 1.5-2mile walks 4-5x week and light weight high rep lifting 3x week. So I'm very active while eating a thousand less calories per day on average. That could be the reason why I'm tired outside the gym. But the super low doses could be a issue as well. I just can't add anything till I do bloods, and I also I've been feeling like I don't want to change anything until I hit a wall either. Right now I'm just going to keep messing with my diet and training. Sex drive is weird too, I want it randomly but significantly lower then normal, but I also have overnight/morning wood to the point it wakes me up lol. So I'm 110% functional, but interest is lower and random. At night I'd rather eat my last meal and watch TV then get some ass. Unless she says GET IN HERE, I'm probably going to fall asleep on the couch.
I'm 100% confident that the trestolone is real, if it's not trest, then I guess it could be testosterone, but I highly doubt that they would do that. I can't tell if it's accurately dosed, but on 50-50 and then 25-25, I'm not crashing and I'm not looking worse.
10-14-26
189.8
I'm down to 25mg test and 25mg trest per week! I still have not started any fat burners or new supplements. I stopped taking NAC and tudca, I'm dropping all supplements and vitamins for the next week or so and will be stopping/severely limiting caffeine for 2 or 3 days leading into my blood work. I've been pretty consistently under 400 mg with the exception of like one day a week when I work a double with driving I end up grabbing two monsters
No more itchy nips since week 2 ended, no side effects to note except lathery outside of the gym. I'm fine in the gym doing high intensity cardio and conditioning. Light weight high rep everything except when I'm doing explosive stuff I keep it limited to about 4 to 8 reps.
Everything is starting to look good. I'm starting to like what I'm seeing. My waist and midsection are shrinking and even though I'm not built up to my normal on cycle size, I'm still muscular enough that the fat loss is making everything else look bigger and start to pop a little bit. Vascularity is increasing as well. So I think I'm getting to that point where getting leaner is starting to create an illusion. I would love to say I probably only need to drop another three or four pounds but I think I need to lose another 10 to 12 if I want to be ripped for real. Like I could cut water right now and give the illusion that I'm shredded but I know it'll be short-lived. I wake up pretty dry and ripped in the morning and kind of faded by noon.
Back to the to the lethargic feeling, it's weird. I'm doing about 1 hour high intensity cardio 5x week, I'm doing 1.5-2mile walks 4-5x week and light weight high rep lifting 3x week. So I'm very active while eating a thousand less calories per day on average. That could be the reason why I'm tired outside the gym. But the super low doses could be a issue as well. I just can't add anything till I do bloods, and I also I've been feeling like I don't want to change anything until I hit a wall either. Right now I'm just going to keep messing with my diet and training. Sex drive is weird too, I want it randomly but significantly lower then normal, but I also have overnight/morning wood to the point it wakes me up lol. So I'm 110% functional, but interest is lower and random. At night I'd rather eat my last meal and watch TV then get some ass. Unless she says GET IN HERE, I'm probably going to fall asleep on the couch.
I'm 100% confident that the trestolone is real, if it's not trest, then I guess it could be testosterone, but I highly doubt that they would do that. I can't tell if it's accurately dosed, but on 50-50 and then 25-25, I'm not crashing and I'm not looking worse.
MrKleen73
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Yeah, you said you planned on getting shredded, so while i bet you look great right now you were tossing out 7% bodyfat a couple weeks ago so that is probably going to be a bit deeper. The last time you were there you got down to about 180 for that fight you were training for weren't you?
Smont
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I'm hoping to use primo and avoid EQ mainly because I've used it so much in the past year or two, but also at the same time if I get my blood work, and hematocrit is good and kidney function markers and everything is looking good, which I expect it to be, but if everything is good then I guess EQ is absolutely on the table still. And with the amount of cardio I do it's probably/definitely a better choice. I haven't been taking any carnitine because the only one I have right now is mixed in one of those extreme versions with like six other things. I really don't want to mess with amp and a few other things right now. And I'm kind of liking only having to take a shot once a week. I think I'm going to save that for when i bring in the stim free fat burners.
Yeah I'm thinking I want to get down to about 7 to 8% and last time I got probably to 9% I was about 180 lb. Also keep in mind that time and this time I severely reduce the amount of lifting I was doing, was off cycle, Last time because I was trying to get into fight shape and this time just because I'm trying to recover all these injuries. Which it's working wonderfully and I've actually been doing a s*** ton of boxing training in place of it to the point where I can beat the heavy bag up again without any shoulder pain. Now that everything starting to feel good again I have done more lifting I did quite a bit of push yesterday morning and then a couple random exercises in the evening along with my heavy bag work. But I'm still pushing the reps super high. My main exercises are all 25 rep sets, sometimes 30, and towards the back half of the workout I was doing sets of 10 to 12 but I basically made it so that I was already kind of gassed out so it's not like I was doing heavy sets of 10 to 12. I've been doing absolutely nothing to failure and just doing pump work.
The positive in all this aside from the fact that my injuries are healing, is that when I get back on consistent weightlifting I know my body composition is going to improve, and then when I reintroduce a cycle everything's going to dramatically improve even if my weight doesn't change. So I'm thinking I got to get down to about 178, just a little bit leaner than last time, and then start introducing the wild cards.
Dustin07
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aint that funny? and I'd probably be another 10lbs lower. When you see a ton of enhanced guys having to chase 180 to hit 10% or lower it really puts the big dogs like heath, cutler and coleman into perspective.
MrKleen73
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Now if I hit 180 and was not like pretty close to contest ready I would be shocked. I am thinking 183-187 to be very lean. I could be wrong but we will see. I think around 190 would be very good, and anything below would be getting into super lean territory. My pics during prep for my natty show in 2009 are basically what I am going off of here.
This was me natty at 190, and I am pretty sure I am still holding about the same amount of muscle or close even after not being able to train too heavy.
Also look at that dang baby face, I look like I am in my 20's here, and am 36.
Smont
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You look so young here! I feel older looking at you lol.
I will say that from age 36 to right now at 41 I can tell I've aged a little bit. Mostly in the grayness of my beard
MrKleen73
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Yeah, when I saw it, I was shocked at how young I looked.
Rockslide
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Yeah and if you just fatten up for the winter a bit to 220 you will probably be throwing up 335 on bench and 405 on squats in no time so why would you want to cut !
Smont
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That's a braised beef with peppers and onions over whipped Japanese sweet potatoes. I only used fairlife and fat free Greek yogurt to whip it up. Little drizzle of honey and a pinch of salt. Surprisingly delicious, sweet, been pretty high in protein for a side dish
For some reason I can't remember if I already posted this but earlier today I had this other meal post-workout my first workout.
Dustin07
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I already gotta slather baby oil on my legs just to get into my slacks this morning idk about 220
MrKleen73
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Is that a cottage cheese crust like I see on all the shorts lately? I have been considering making some since I am doing the low carb life 5 days a week.
Smont
Legend
No it's not. It's a trader joes lavish bread, if you're looking for it in a regular store it's usually just called Joseph lavish bread. They're usually made from a combination of oat, flax and something else, it kind of just tastes like a whole grain wrap but fluffier.
I did however mix cottage cheese with the marinara sauce and spread it on top, chopped up some zucchini, crushed tomato and chicken and topped it with a 3 cheese combo
sammpedd88
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That lavish bread is pretty damn tasty. I’ve used naan bread also for homemade pizzas.
sammpedd88
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Yeah a homemade high protein pizza may be on the menu for this weekend!
Smont
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The naan bread makes amazing pizzas! But the calories are up there. I literally had the Nan in my hand and then put it back on the shelf for the lavish bread for macro reasons
MrKleen73
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Dick! That is all I have to say as someone on trace carbs for 12 days now!
Mr.thomas joy
Member
12–15 lbs isn't some crazy amount from where you're at. Let the mirror and your progress decide.I forgot to include that Todays fasted weight was
189. 8! My midsection is starting to come together the way I was hoping it would look before I went on vacation, I definitely look deflated a little. We were talking at the gym yesterday morning and they asked me why I'm trying to cut so much right now, I told them my goals and I got the dreaded response lol. You already look a lot smaller then you normally do
I still haven't taken pics, you guys know I'm always posting my progress pics but 3 things keep happening lol.
1. I'm not lifting nearly as much and im doing much more cardio and conditioning, after a workout I usually don't mind taking off my shirt snapping a few pictures, but when you're soaking wet drenched in sweat I don't want to take that shirt off unless I have a dry shirt to put on afterwards and a lot of times I'm in a rush and I don't so I've just been throwing on a nasty hooded sweatshirt for the ride home and then hop in the shower. I'm a 2min ride and the men's room only has 2 shower stalls so most the time I don't even bother. So I'm basically just not taking pictures like I normally do.
2. I'm not super excited to take pictures as I'm getting smaller
3. I honestly just keep forgetting, there's nothing slapping me in the face saying hey you should take a picture of this so I just forget to do it. I haven't even been taking pictures of my weight on the scale like I normally do.
Il get some up this week
sammpedd88
Well-known member
Yeah it’s not macro friendly for a cut lol!
Smont
Legend
Yellow bell peppers, but now you've given me some ideas lol. Teriyaki chicken with mango onions and peppers might be on the menu this week
Smont
Legend
I prefer a chocolate roll for those types of desserts but i would absolutely demolish a pumpkin roll too lol. My girlfriend makes amazing pumpkin pies with the little pumpkins we grow in the garden. I'm so happy none of them are ready yet because this would be the hardest cut ever. She already is trying to sabotage my diet and feed me desserts lol. She tried to get me to go to the store and get us cookies last night lol, so I gave her one square of my dark chocolate bar. (I eat a little piece of dark chocolate every day, a 2 littlte1x1 in squares. Think it's 120 cal.) Now that the bar is gone I'm probably going to leave that out though.
Smont
Legend
I know what you mean, my menu only opted for basically meat and vegetables yesterday and I did 2 hours of training in the morning and an hour and a half in the evening. Both times drenched in sweat to my drawers lol.Dick! That is all I have to say as someone on trace carbs for 12 days now!
During my second session yesterday this dude at the gym, who's kind of a big guy he just joined, he looked at me getting off the stair climber and asked if I needed something with sugar, like he could tell I was crashing.
Smont
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Oh never mind I missed the 12-day part, sorry sir I cannot relate lolDick! That is all I have to say as someone on trace carbs for 12 days now!
Smont
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At 190 this morning (not sure why weight went up on a low day with double sessions) but I'm pretty lean, I got the V in my waist and veins showing there, 15 more pounds is definitely a lot from where I'm at right now. But definitely doable, I don't really carry much fat on my legs. Going by the mirror this morning, 15 more lbs is going to suck a little lol.
I do carry a lot of fat in my obliques and lower back tho. When I say a lot, I don't actually mean a lot I just mean that's where I tend to hold it. So what happens is I'll get to a point where I think I'm completely shredded from the front, and then I got that lower back fat I can still squeeze on the back. That usually happens to me in the low 180s. I also aren't running anything right now, it some point when I hop on that's going to give me a big change in body composition and I probably won't actually need to lose 15 lb
Only time will tell though. I do possibly have something coming up on November 14th that actually requires a weight class (176) Im entertaining the idea since I'm in striking distance. Which would require I lose 14 lb which is exactly 4 weeks from today!
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