Waste of $$/Scam Supplements

Syr said:
A LOT of studies made on cancer/HIV patients have proved to give benefits to healthy athletes as well.
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They absolutely have not. You are comparing apples to watermelons here.

The majority of cancer/HIV studies use amino's given through an IV which has a completely different effect on the body then amino's given orally.
 
Bobo said:
THe studies with glutamine use on AIDS patients has absolutely nothing to do with normal men.
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Gotcha.
And thanks about mentioning the IV assumption form, I didnt notice that and my comment was more generic, actually I was thinking at steroids.
 
You know, I was going to drop $650.00 on the Pro Bodybuilding cycle from Impact Nutrition. But I am sure glad I found this forum!!! So I would rather get the results I paid for. I am going for aI will save about $100.00


DA
 
DontAsk said:
You know, I was going to drop $650.00 on the Pro Bodybuilding cycle from Impact Nutrition. But I am sure glad I found this forum!!! So I would rather get the results I paid for. I am going for aI will save about $100.00


DA
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Wow, that would have been an expensive lesson. Welcome to AM, where you will save more than just your money.
 
IMpact Nutrition :hammer:

Anabolic insider is good bathroom reading though
I'm digging the blonde chick in the current issue...shes got the do me face...its great.

Good thing you got here first... read then Check out the board sponsors, i have yet to be dissapointed.

h19
 
T-Bone said:
I got some HMB from bulknutrition and have been taking 3 grams a day for about 2 months. I do notice a real difference. Especially it seems it muscular endurance. Its very inexpensive if you buy it in bulk. I would say its worth it. I think most of avant labs products are a joke.
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You are certainly fond of going out of your way to trash our products.
 
Anything that mimicks the effects of something else( i.e. testosterone ) that has proven effacy, then explains why the "copy" is actually exponential ( i.e. 700x more powerful than dianabol !!! ) superior to the original !!!

"... this new razor has a seventh blade!... which makes it better than most traditional six blade razors!
...because you'll believe anything!, right? "
 
Glutamine is worthless as a training aid...

Pure Power mag did a nice article on that back in 2002/03 with research to back it up, but people still fall for the glut trap... Hell, I did before I realized that this was doing nothing for me.
 
Logs of compounds over a period of weeks by someone, with useless chit chat from others about new movies, a girl, an avatar, what you ate last night before going to bed, a party, a smilies festival, when you stopped drinking and doing drugs to make bodybuilding "your lifestyle" and begging for the compound in the log are pretty long, hard to read, and quite annoying if in the end, the compound turns out to be well,..............useless.

Most logs are useless, does that count?
 
Pretty much any thing with out a published study on the actual product to me is garbage. Any one can make a product and a claim but the bottom line is the proof. From MIT Yale etc studies that are not bias.
 
I noticed a few people mention HMB. Then I noticed a few people mention that HMB actually works.

I have used HMB a few times and found works very well. It is especially good for the skinny dude who has no fat and has even a hard time maintaining on 4000 calories.


Supps I found were ****....
Xyience growth factor

and from what Ive heard,
Endothil CR is a bunch of ****.
 
"Liquid protein" that I still see sold at GNC. It's actually hydrolyzed collagen, which is a piss-poor source of protein, not to mention it's derived from animal skin, bone, hoof, cartilage and other nasty things.
 
djbombsquad said:
Pretty much any thing with out a published study on the actual product to me is garbage. Any one can make a product and a claim but the bottom line is the proof. From MIT Yale etc studies that are not bias.
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This caught my eye:

Do you mean study on the active ingredient or study on the product itself?
 
Fizogen with the whole Oil-bol ON OFF Bulk Cut Strap-on cycle.
If I need to explain this you spend too much time in GNC.
 
Rodja said:
As a useless supplement??
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No, no, I was speaking in regards to glutamine vs. BCAAs. Some people prefer one over the other, and they were just bashing the glut on that other post.

I've used BCAAs for almost as long as I've been lifting.:thumbsup:
 
true_c said:
anything

Methoxy
Ecdy
Muscletech
HMB

Impact Nutrition (jeff summers) -**does that answer ur question TICK:D (stuff is junk, and disturbingly expensive - also, dont count on gettin ne $ back if u want to return it)

Creatine serum
cuttin/rippin gel


Have to disagree w/ the chromium - that i have from good source as a quality supp
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have to disagree with the ecdy.
it does give you a hardening and leaning effect along with regularity of bowel movements.
I took syntrax syntraEC and only vitamins for two months.
after about three weeks at 3 caps spaced out a day... it did not make me bigger but my physique improved and it cut me up pretty fast.
 
GuyverX said:
have to disagree with the ecdy.
it does give you a hardening and leaning effect along with regularity of bowel movements.
I took syntrax syntraEC and only vitamins for two months.
after about three weeks at 3 caps spaced out a day... it did not make me bigger but my physique improved and it cut me up pretty fast.
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A few years back, ecdy products were not useful, but they have since then refined the process and now have much stronger extracts. I am a huge ecdy fan and have gotten several clients and training partners to start using it and everyone of them has loved it.
 
GuyverX said:
have to disagree with the ecdy.
it does give you a hardening and leaning effect along with regularity of bowel movements.
I took syntrax syntraEC and only vitamins for two months.
after about three weeks at 3 caps spaced out a day... it did not make me bigger but my physique improved and it cut me up pretty fast.
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Full name for ecdy?

I would use it just for regular bowel movements. With my schedule (surgical) I have to use bars, drinks a lot and this wreaks havoc with my system. Does this really work?
 
Sheesh said:
· Muira puama
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actually works at about 3 grams a day.
NP has 100 grams for 9 bucks.
most noticeable effect is making me horny as a goat(no pun intended) and making my wang slightly larger and last longer when its time to bang the ladies. takes about 4 days to a week to kick in though.
 
kraftkid said:
Full name for ecdy?

I would use it just for regular bowel movements. With my schedule (surgical) I have to use bars, drinks a lot and this wreaks havoc with my system. Does this really work?
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Syntrax
SyntraEC

Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 90

Amount Per Serving:

Cyanotis Vaga Extract: 275mg
-(Standardized for 200mg 20-Hydroxyecdysterone and 250mg TOTAL ecdysteroids)

then NP has 75 grams of turkesterone for I think 20 bucks which is supposed to do the same thing. Turk is supposed to be a stronger form of ecdy ... from ajuga turkestanica

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Rodja said:
A few years back, ecdy products were not useful, but they have since then refined the process and now have much stronger extracts. I am a huge ecdy fan and have gotten several clients and training partners to start using it and everyone of them has loved it.
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makes sense.
I was going to try the thermolife E-Bol but it had too many extras in it.
I'm not a fan of anything with more than three or four ingredients unless its multivitamin or like one of those fish oil supplements.
 
CarterMalone said:
I noticed a few people mention HMB. Then I noticed a few people mention that HMB actually works.

I have used HMB a few times and found works very well. It is especially good for the skinny dude who has no fat and has even a hard time maintaining on 4000 calories.
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why??
 
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Same product same company different web sites and marking. MRI is a scam.
 
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