Yeah theirs so much stuff to be used.I was reading in MD in creggs column about how many performance enhancing drugs are perfectly legal.Things as little as caffeine and all.The main one though was maybe a cortizone shot?He said it could make a pitcher who couldn't raise his hand above his head pitch an entire game and it's a hormone.Their were lots of others.He was just saying without it he would be this way,then he takes something to enhance his performance in the game and it's perfectly fine.I also like the argument on how sometimes juicing is actually hlping one to get to the point someone else is.So leveling the playing field.I read theirs a guy that fights and has the natural test levels of 3 healthy men.So another using steroids to catch him isn't cheating,it's making things =.