Guest viewing limit reached
  • You have reached the maximum number of guest views allowed
  • Please register below to remove this limitation

Volcom’s, Controlled Labs NEW White Flood CAPS (Sponsored TESTER)

Day 9; Rest

This is for yesterday, I just wanted to post "Day 9" so I can have a marker. I got 10 hours of sleep!!!! Wheeeew!! I didn't have to work this morning so I took advantage of the luxury to hibernate! Today will be Day 10, Saturday morning.
 
SokVichet said:
I'm looking to run my first test booster and having a tough time deciding, hehe. DTH is universally praised, BlueUp, Stoked! and the like are highly regarded as well... but I was wondering what you thought about the Invalid Link Removed at NP (T-Rez, Divanex, and T-Force).
Click to expand...

I've tried STOKED and wasn't a big fan, HOWEVER, when I did use STOKED, it was in the middle of 3-AD PCT, so I was using MassFX, Hyperdol X2, Advanced PCT and X-factor along with the STOKED, therefore, I couldn't really gauge it's efficacy with any clarity.

Blue UP didn't seem to produce any dramatic effects until I started double dosing, then I started having notable increases in strength.

Between Blue UP,STOKED, & DTH, DTH promotes the most aggression and libido.

I would break it down to Blue UP or DTH. Here are some personal, subjective pro's & con's

- Blue UP, for me, dramatic effects required double dosing, however, that would still only mean 4 caps daily.
- DTH, regular dosing will suffice, but for me, "regular" meant at least 6 caps, I took it to 8 caps.

- Blue UP, much more cost friendly
- DTH, very expensive, especially if you dose high. 6 caps a day means a 20 day run. [I had to buy 2 bottles of DTH to do a more then 30 day run on 6 caps]

- Blue UP, nice, small, standardized pills.
- DTH, horse pills.

- Blue UP has a very loose dosing schedule, first thing in the morning or pre workout
- DTH MUST be spread AM/Mid/PM

The real biting question is, "which one is better?" it's not so black & white. On top of taking into consideration dosing/cost/convenience/effects, there's the whole, YOUR PERSONAL system's response.

If Blue UP, I would insist on double, triple dosing. If DTH, I would go 6 caps, which basically means the same for Blue UP.

DTH definitely stands out in the aggression arena. Some people like that (like myself), some people don't.

It's hard for me to recommend Cheverolet or Ford, because you're currently in a Ford car lot if you get my drift, how bias would I sound? At the same time, I've never liked openly advising one company over the other, if I have respect for both. The only companies I openly bash are MuscleTech and Fizogen, but that's out of principle :cheers:

I'd ask around or look around between Blue UP and DTH. Again, STOKED was taken in a PCT gumbo, so there was no way for me to really get a feel for it. Those other test boosters you suggested, I have no opinion, I've never personally tried them before.
 
I have tried both Blue Up and DTH. I can honestly say that Blue Up was more effective for me. I bought two bottles of it and tripple dosed (6 caps). I ran it with low dose ATD. I had the stim-free version, and dosed it the same as I did for DTH (AM/Noon/PM).

DTH I dosed at 6 caps, and ran it with Stoked!. It wasn't bad, but in terms of cost v. effectiveness, the Blue Up and ATD was definitely my favorite.

I definitely welcome the aggression that any supplement brings, but DTH didn't really bring much. I'm a very aggressive person in general though, so whatever. Not a big deal.

Blue Up = $22 x 2
ATD Nutracaps = $16
Total = $60

DTH Twin-pack = $75
Stoked! = $40
Total = $115

I will say though that I loved Stoked!. I would buy that again for sure.
 
Irish Cannon said:
I have tried both Blue Up and DTH. I can honestly say that Blue Up was more effective for me. I bought two bottles of it and tripple dosed (6 caps). I ran it with low dose ATD. I had the stim-free version, and dosed it the same as I did for DTH (AM/Noon/PM).

DTH I dosed at 6 caps, and ran it with Stoked!. It wasn't bad, but in terms of cost v. effectiveness, the Blue Up and ATD was definitely my favorite.

I definitely welcome the aggression that any supplement brings, but DTH didn't really bring much. I'm a very aggressive person in general though, so whatever. Not a big deal.
Click to expand...

I agree, if Blue UP would have been dosed at 6 for me, then I believe I would have seen much more dramatic effects. I didn't start to see notable benefits until I upped my Blue Up to 4 caps. Maybe I'll try that sometime in the future.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Question, did you go through the calves as well?
Click to expand...
2/3 for the calves (Seated calf press). Then I went and did 3x20 of some squats and ab work, was pretty shot. My legs are shot now.

Was I supposed to get into the squat position with the weights still on? I didn't, but I definitely wouldn't have been able to anyways. 40lb DB's were too much, I ended up just using the bar toward the end. I think 30lb DB's would be better. The minute in the squat position is the worst; I started assisting myself on the safety bars to make it to the 1 minute mark, which felt like forever. I probably quit at about 50s to be perfectly honest.
 
Volcom, with how excellent your logs are, I think CL needs to supply you with every product in their line, enough of each to run at your preferred dosage. It would be very, very interesting to see your results on all of their products at once , seriously. ( I guess you'd have to choose either REDuction or Black Hole)

Invalid Link Removed



(by the way I figured out the smiley thing. It's a lot of fun, LOL)
 
GreenSquats said:
Volcom, with how excellent your logs are, I think CL needs to supply you with every product in their line, enough of each to run at your preferred dosage. It would be very, very interesting to see your results on all of their products at once , seriously. ( I guess you'd have to choose either REDuction or Black Hole)

Invalid Link Removed



(by the way I figured out the smiley thing. It's a lot of fun, LOL)
Click to expand...

You get your smileys from a different place then mine, so I totally snagged your link :cheers:

Thanks for the compliments AND the confidence. I'm up for anything. I'd be happy to be walking Controlled Labs Invalid Link Removed

If ever the case, just give me the word :thumbsup:

P.S. your site was waaaaay cooler then mine.
 
VolcomX311 said:
You get your smileys from a different place then mine, so I totally snagged your link :cheers:

Thanks for the compliments AND the confidence. I'm up for anything. I'd be happy to be walking Controlled Labs Invalid Link Removed

If ever the case, just give me the word :thumbsup:

P.S. your site was waaaaay cooler then mine.
Click to expand...

Invalid Link Removed

But seriously, I think yours is better.
 
Steveoph said:
2/3 for the calves (Seated calf press). Then I went and did 3x20 of some squats and ab work, was pretty shot. My legs are shot now.

Was I supposed to get into the squat position with the weights still on? I didn't, but I definitely wouldn't have been able to anyways. 40lb DB's were too much, I ended up just using the bar toward the end. I think 30lb DB's would be better. The minute in the squat position is the worst; I started assisting myself on the safety bars to make it to the 1 minute mark, which felt like forever. I probably quit at about 50s to be perfectly honest.
Click to expand...

Bodyweight squat position was the way to go, you did it perfectly, and yes, it's the longest 1 minute in your life. Good job by the way, very gutsy and very commendable.
 
GreenSquats said:
We should totally have a smiley contest.

Invalid Link Removed
Click to expand...

I don't think Irish could be any happier with the ones he already found. Those were hilarious by the way.

Off to the gym I go Invalid Link Removed

I'm love'n this new find, smiley reps for Greensquats.
 
Day 10; Almost tore my left pec.... I think

Hey guys, as the title suggests, i think I was close to tearing my left Pec. I've never torn a muscle before, so i can't be certain, but I'll describe the happenstance and you guys can diagnose the situation.

As some of you may or may not know, I've been trying to transition into heavier lifting. I've been in hypertrophy season for far too many seasons and it's time I revamp my strength foundations. As such, my weights are getting progressively heavier and heavier. However, I'm still in the training frequency geared toward hypertrophy, which simply means I may have been re-hitting a muscle group much too soon, as heavier loads require longer recovery time.

This training frequency issue, compounded by the fact I may have jumped the gun today on my bench presses (severely neglecting an appropriate warm up), compounded by the fact I was late in listening to my body, but in my defense, I thought it was simply DOMS, not a muscle fiber ready to rip, I pushed through the pain as always and may have stopped myself just in the nick of time. I'll narrate as I log my workout.

CHEST

Flat Bench
135lbs warm up
275lbs x 10 reps
285lbs x 9 reps
295lbs x 6 reps
305lbs x 5 reps

I felt a muscle fiber that runs across my entire left pec express some sharp, shooting pains, after the first set of 275lbs, but I had this same pain last week and I was okay, so I chalked this up as some form of DOMS or minor irritation.

With each set, this sharp, shooting pain became progressively worse, a yellow flag perhaps, but not a red yet, so decided to continue.

Incline Hammer Press - Viking Grip
90lbs Warm Up
320lbs x 10 reps
360lbs x 9 reps
410lbs x 5 reps

Again, this sharp, shooting pain grew worse and worse and by the time I hit 410lbs, that yellow flag maybe turned dark orange, but still. I was determined to get my chest workout in. However, I was starting to worry, as I had a friend tear a pec and was out of the chest press game for about 6 months. These thoughts were starting to swirl, so the alarms were at least being heard in some form.

Flat Db Press
35lbs Warm Up (ouch.... I thought maybe it was this angle so i moved to incline bench)

Incline Db press
35lbs (1 rep and my left side was paralyzed, I knew then, if I continued, something REALLY BAD was going to happen. Pain we push through, injuries we cater to. I knew it was time to pack up the chest press bags, but I wasn't about to go home empty handed.....)

SHRUGS

Barbell Shrugs
315lbs x 10 reps
335lbs x 9 reps
355lbs x 8 reps
335lbs x 8 reps
315lbs x 10 reps

Behind The Neck Barbell Shrugs
275lbs x 10 reps
295lbs x 8 reps
315lbs x 8 reps
295lbs x 8 reps
275lbs x 10 reps

**Volcom Special**
Barbell Shrugs - Wide, Underhand Grip or "Somoan Grip"
For me, when I perform stand shrugs, by the time my traps are filled with blood, they look more peaked. However, this wide-underhand grip produces a different type of flush, by the time the blood has adjusted to this exercise, my traps have greater length, from neck to shoulders. You'll just have to try it.
225lbs x 10 reps
245lbs x 10 reps
265lbs x 8 reps
285lbs x 8 reps
265lbs x 8 reps
245lbs x 8 reps
225lbs x 10 reps

Seated Shrugs
270lbs x 12 reps
320lbs x 10 reps
360lbs x 8 reps
320lbs x 10 reps
270lbs x 12 reps

While I was performing my shrugs, I could feel that piece of muscle fiber in my chest being aggravated, because a mere contraction would cause it to have sharp, shooting pains.

Once I got to my car I had a hard time reaching for my seat belt, because that movement caused a pretty sharp pain and I normally steer with my left hand and that caused pain too, so I drove with my right hand, weird....

I feel fine right now, I can open up my chest and there's no pain, bu I can feel that muscle fiber slightly pulling. I have all ROM without any pain and i can even deep stretch without any pain, its just if I contract the pecs, then that muscle fiber that runs across my chest makes itself known. I don't know if I was close to an actual pec tear, but definitely some form of muscle injury. I suppose I'm technically "injured" now, but not in any daily life diminishing way. I suppose I ought to let my chest have a break for at least a week, then go into some higher volume lifting the week after that before I go full on again, I don't know.

Luckily for me, my chest is THEE most developed part of my body, in terms of bodybuilding. My back is the biggest and strongest, but my chest has great contour, size and shape and I don't have to work as hard as most to have that. I could probably go quite awhile in chest rest mode without any severe detriment to my chest development. Strength will decrease if anything, but nothing aesthetically. Hopefully it won't come to a prolonged recovery time, but definitely no chest this week. Next Saturday at the earliest, or the following Wednesday.

Either way, I still got an alright Shrugs workout in, so all those White Flood CAPS I took this morning didn't go to waste. About those shrugs, I probably wouldn't have done so much extensive reverse pyramiding except my strength seemed shot after those limited chest exercises, so if I couldn't have intensity, then I'll take some volume.
 
My Perception on Injuries.

Of course I would prefer to be 100% all around. Currently, my spinal erectors are shotty and strained, so i can't do my beloved Deads, my chest is on the brink so I can't bench! However, as long as I am still able to walk and perform other workouts, it's all good. I see set backs as a means to help me focus on other body parts that I tend to neglect. My medial and posterior delt heads need more attention, so I guess this will be the time to give it to them. I can still curl, shrug, and perform non-bent over or lumbar straining back exercises. Things could be worse, whenever I get an injury my first thoughts are usually, "at least i can walk, this is temporary and now I can focus on other parts." Of course not being able to perform ANY chest exercises is way more debilitating then just not being able to perform deads, but again, bi's, shrugs, delts, tri's, most back exercises, as long as my left pec will recovery eventually, I'm okay. Injuries happen, it happens when you play hard (or play stupid and I think I did both). Que sera, sera, things could be worse, at least I didn't "ACTUALLY" tear anything.
 
Day 10; Second Workout

This was not planned, considering my avoided, potential catastrophe of the workout earlier today. I was scheduled to be somewhere from 2:00pm-6:00pm, but got out early, around 3:30pm. I have plans to have dinner with the girlfriend at 6:30 and since I had a couple hours to spew and I do drive past my gym on the way home, I figured what better way to blow 45 min then doing some curls. However, I did keep my exercises limited to stationary equipment for the sake of my injurious left pec.

Preacher Curls, machine
200lbs STACK x 10 reps
200lbs STACK x 8 reps
200lbs STACK x 6 reps
200lbs STACK x 5 reps

180lbs x 10 reps
180lbs x 8 reps
180lbs x 6 reps
180lbs x 5 reps

160lbs x 8 reps
160lbs x 8 reps
160lbs x 7 reps
160lbs x 6 reps

Incline Concentrated Curls, machine - One Arm
[don't be too impressed with my numbers on this exercise. There is a pad that you rest your arm on which is suppose to perpetuate a "concentration" effect, but rather, it is more often inadvertently used almost as a pivot, rather then a concentration device. As a result, you can push more weight then you should be able to, which is why I don't use this exercise that often, but I was in the mood today. If you performed partial curls, then this machine would be golden and concentrated, but full curls, like I was doing, allows you to pivot at the bottom]
220lbs STACK x 10 reps, each arm.
220lbs STACK x 8 reps, e.a.
220lbs STACK x 8 reps
220lbs STACK x 6 reps, e.a.

One Arm Preacher Curls, machine
60lbs x 10 reps
70lbs x 8 reps
80lbs x 6 reps
90lbs x 5 reps

Preacher Hammer Curls
70lbs x 10 reps
90lbs x 10 reps
110lbs x 7 reps
130lbs x 5 reps

Walla. Got me a 2fer today. I could feel my left pec when I was performing my curls, simply because I was contracting them a little, but I'm doing fine. No chest anything for 1 to 2 weeks I'm gathering.
 
VolcomX311 said:
My Perception on Injuries.

Of course not being able to perform ANY chest exercises is way more debilitating then just not being able to perform deads, but again, bi's, shrugs, delts, tri's, most back exercises, as long as my left pec will recovery eventually, I'm okay. Injuries happen, it happens when you play hard (or play stupid and I think I did both). Que sera, sera, things could be worse, at least I didn't "ACTUALLY" tear anything.
Click to expand...
I'm not 100% sure you didn't tear anything. Take it from someone who had a major pec tear 2 years ago. You probably just pulled the muscle. Because when my right pec actually tore, that was the end of the workout. I could barely carry my gym bag and get in my friend's car for him to drive me home. It was hard to even try to flex it, or move my arm up and down. By the next morning blood had pooled into my arm and chest and even down my side. It looked like the hugest bruise ever. It's just blood seeping from the muscle tear and dispersing out under the surrounding skin. You should still go to a doctor and get it checked out. It could be a minor tear. There are varying degrees of tears. I have seem some guys who have endured minor tears, that look like they have a little "pinch" in the side of their pec. Myself and others who have experienced major tears, have a true dent in the side of the affected pectoral. Good luck Volcom. Make very sure you warm-up and stretch ridiculously well from now on. If you don't have time for an extensive warm-up, you simply do NOT have time to train that day. My tear was a blessing in disguise. I now warm-up and stretch religiously. It has made my workouts all the better. Take care my friend. :wave:
 
The worse thing you can do is ignore the injury. Treatment right afterwards is paramount. I would suggest icing it, 15 mins on 15 off for a few hours. Also do some minor stretching if possible. Look up some rehab/post-injury strategies online. I also usually take an anti-inflammatory (A few advil/ibuprofen). Definitely start treating your pec Volcom; it will heal much quicker this way.
 
thundergod said:
I'm not 100% sure you didn't tear anything. Take it from someone who had a major pec tear 2 years ago. You probably just pulled the muscle. Because when my right pec actually tore, that was the end of the workout. I could barely carry my gym bag and get in my friend's car for him to drive me home. It was hard to even try to flex it, or move my arm up and down. By the next morning blood had pooled into my arm and chest and even down my side. It looked like the hugest bruise ever. It's just blood seeping from the muscle tear and dispersing out under the surrounding skin. You should still go to a doctor and get it checked out. It could be a minor tear. There are varying degrees of tears. I have seem some guys who have endured minor tears, that look like they have a little "pinch" in the side of their pec. Myself and others who have experienced major tears, have a true dent in the side of the affected pectoral. Good luck Volcom. Make very sure you warm-up and stretch ridiculously well from now on. If you don't have time for an extensive warm-up, you simply do NOT have time to train that day. My tear was a blessing in disguise. I now warm-up and stretch religiously. It has made my workouts all the better. Take care my friend. :wave:
Click to expand...

Thanks Thunder,

Based on your depiction of a tear, my experience was about .00001 as intense as yours. It must be a muscle strain of some sort. I believe a tear would have stopped me in my tracks when I was pushing 410 on the incline hammer, but rather, it was simply aggravated and then inflamed enough to prevent me from going further in my next exercise. I could have kept going, but the pain was concentrated on a specific fiber, which ruled out DOMS for me and that is why I decided to stop.

I'll definitely let my chest rest for a good 2-3 weeks then and I'll keep more intensive warm ups in mind.
 
Steveoph said:
The worse thing you can do is ignore the injury. Treatment right afterwards is paramount. I would suggest icing it, 15 mins on 15 off for a few hours. Also do some minor stretching if possible. Look up some rehab/post-injury strategies online. I also usually take an anti-inflammatory (A few advil/ibuprofen). Definitely start treating your pec Volcom; it will heal much quicker this way.
Click to expand...

Ibuprofen I can afford, a doctor's visit I cannot. I'll pick some up on my date tonight. Maybe I'll pretend we're having dinner at the Albertson's Deli

"we're in a recession babe! be grateful I'm not asking you to split the bill. C'mon, they make quality hoggies here, and the fried chicken... shiiiiiiit" hehe, no but seriously, I'll pick some up at the end of my date tonight. Thanks for suggestion bro :cheers:

Maybe I'll toss in some mega dosed fish oils, too.
 
Day 11; maybe a rest day, don't know yet

My date last night did end up at a Von's, where I picked up some ibuprofen as Steveo suggested. This morning, the only thing sore on my body are my bi's and my upper back, not so much my traps, but I think I slept wrong, so my upper back feels a bit funny. My chest, nothing, obviously no DOMS from two exercises and that strand of muscle fiber in my left pec is doing fine. I can do a couple push ups before I feel it flaring a bit. I can flex my chest without any aggravation to it, so I'm thinking I strained it yesterday pretty thoroughly. Nonetheless, I will prescribe at least a full week's rest and hit chest again next Saturday. I noticed that the incline angle aggravates it the most, so perhaps I'll focus more on flat and decline for the next bout.

Unlike most people, who's pecs are most developed toward the middle and lower portions, I'm the most developed in my upper/incline portions.

When I first got into bodybuilding as a high schooler, I was waaaaaay into Arnold Swarzendether, at the same time, no homo, I thought Brad Pitt had the most rip roarest body. I noticed his chest wasn't a cannon ball, nor was it that developed in his lower pec region, what made him look so ripped was that his chest was ripped from top to bottom (apart from abs), especially that top region.

So my goals of having a full chest from top to bottom, coupled with Arnie principles, while all the other kids started their chest days on flat, I ALWAYS started on incline bench. To this day I have a tendency to favor the incline lifts, but that's an ingrained habit from my adolescents.

At 18, I was able to press 315lbs on the free incline 6 times. To this day I haven't been that strong on the incline free bench. All this to say, focusing on flat/decline won't effect the aesthetics of my incline pectoral region. Muscle maturity has long set in and again, when I didn't have a decent chest all around, I still had a deep incline split.
 
VolcomX311 said:
My date last night did end up at a Von's, where I picked up some ibuprofen as Steveo suggested. This morning, the only thing sore on my body are my bi's and my upper back, not so much my traps, but I think I slept wrong, so my upper back feels a bit funny. My chest, nothing, obviously no DOMS from two exercises and that strand of muscle fiber in my left pec is doing fine. I can do a couple push ups before I feel it flaring a bit. I can flex my chest without any aggravation to it, so I'm thinking I strained it yesterday pretty thoroughly. Nonetheless, I will prescribe at least a full week's rest and hit chest again next Saturday. I noticed that the incline angle aggravates it the most, so perhaps I'll focus more on flat and decline for the next bout.

Unlike most people, who's pecs are most developed toward the middle and lower portions, I'm the most developed in my upper/incline portions.

When I first got into bodybuilding as a high schooler, I was waaaaaay into Arnold Swarzendether, at the same time, no homo, I thought Brad Pitt had the most rip roarest body. I noticed his chest wasn't a cannon ball, nor was it that developed in his lower pec region, what made him look so ripped was that his chest was ripped from top to bottom (apart from abs), especially that top region.

So my goals of having a full chest from top to bottom, coupled with Arnie principles, while all the other kids started their chest days on flat, I ALWAYS started on incline bench. To this day I have a tendency to favor the incline lifts, but that's an ingrained habit from my adolescents.

At 18, I was able to press 315lbs on the free incline 6 times. To this day I haven't been that strong on the incline free bench. All this to say, focusing on flat/decline won't effect the aesthetics of my incline pectoral region. Muscle maturity has long set in and again, when I didn't have a decent chest all around, I still had a deep incline split.
Click to expand...

I don't think anybody can deny that that dude is solid. He just has the perfect fitness/athletic look. He definitely doesn't hold a bodybuilder look, nor do I really think he could, but he just takes the bad-assness of Redford, Newman, and McQueen, and adds a touch of muscle which they all lacked.
 
Incline es numero uno!
315 on incline, that's sick-nasty bro.
I'm working with 200 and it's rough.

And to comment on Brad Pitt, Fight Club was the big movie around that time. Pitt was in great shape.
 
SilentBob187 said:
Incline es numero uno!
315 on incline, that's sick-nasty bro.
I'm working with 200 and it's rough.

And to comment on Brad Pitt, Fight Club was the big movie around that time. Pitt was in great shape.
Click to expand...

He looked good in Troy. Much more muscle than any of his other flicks. Too bad these actors don't work to keep it. As soon as the movie is done, they go back to skinny and out of shape.
 
Irish Cannon said:
I don't think anybody can deny that that dude is solid. He just has the perfect fitness/athletic look. He definitely doesn't hold a bodybuilder look, nor do I really think he could, but he just takes the bad-assness of Redford, Newman, and McQueen, and adds a touch of muscle which they all lacked.
Click to expand...

I'd have to atrophy like a raisin to obtain a Brad Pitt look now a days, but that hasn't been my aim since high school.

I agree, Brad Pitt looks terrific, very lean, very fit and just enough muscle to be respected.
 
SilentBob187 said:
Incline es numero uno!
315 on incline, that's sick-nasty bro.
I'm working with 200 and it's rough.

And to comment on Brad Pitt, Fight Club was the big movie around that time. Pitt was in great shape.
Click to expand...

Fight Club was ridiculous. I took my girlfriend with me to see that movie and I felt so damn inadequate at the end, hehe.

Oddly, I didn't feel so bad after watching 300, but I am much larger these days.
 
snagency said:
That's when they cycle off their stacks bro, c'mon.. they need some down time..
Click to expand...

Speaking of cycles and actors. My friend met Vin Diesel in person and said he only looks like he weighs 185lbs, nowhere near as big as they portray him on the big screen.
 
Irish Cannon said:
He looked good in Troy. Much more muscle than any of his other flicks. Too bad these actors don't work to keep it. As soon as the movie is done, they go back to skinny and out of shape.
Click to expand...

Unlimited food funds and a personal chef would make dieting SO MUCH MORE FUN.
 
I just ate some fish this morning and not the cool kind, and it wasn't all the way cooked, which doesn't normally deter me because I'm thinking, Sushi & Sashimi, but now I've got a killer stomach ache.... Invalid Link Removed
 
Excitment Ensues

As mentioned in previous posts, next week, I'll be adding:

- Diesel Test Hardcore & Sunami by Get Diesel

In order to help with increasing test, libido and aggression, in conjunction with analyzing the very separate & distinguishable effects of White Flood CAPS.

However, as complete of a natty test booster as I feel DTH and Sunami might be, I am a fan and believer in Icariin, which is not covered in my current natty test equation. I didn't want to buy bulk Icariin (well #1 it's out of stock, so a six foot pipe up me arse), and because I'm all about convenience due to my hectic schedule, which pills provide, also, I don't want to include RPM because what the hay, I'm already on The Flood and the effects of WF and RPM would most definitely mesh into a cloud of who's doing what. What about STOKED? Too much money and I'm not looking to pay for everything else STOKED has to offer in there, I'm just looking for Icariin and walla, I found it.

- LiveLong Nutrition Icariin-50, Serving Size 1 Capsule
* Icariin-50 500mg †
* Yielding Icariin 250mg †

* Take 1 to 2 capsules a day (which means 2-3 in my book)

Just Icariin in a pill, just what I was looking for to complete the natty test circle of life "parami."

We could get into a debate about the current research regarding the real effects and efficacy of Icariin. Number one, it has only shown positive results in increasing circulation of test and bringing low test levels back to normal. It's ability to "increase" test above normal thresholds is something of a gray area by medical study standards. I for one, believe I need all the help I can get. My libido is shotty and I tend to correlate that with less the optimal test being produced and circulated in the assembly line.

I'm very excited... I'm going to be honest with you guys. I heavily contemplated the idea of simply stacking my DTH/Sunami with 6 caps Blue UP, but in comparing their ingredients when I got home today, I found that there would be more redundancy of "significant" ingredients then would be wise to pay for at this time. Either DTH has to be the foundation or Blue UP has to be the foundation, but I did consider the two in conjunction, which might have just ended up as very expensive pee had I combined the two. Therefore, the next best bet and I believe the truly "optimal" thing to do, was to include some Icariin.

I've had great success as far as strength improvements with RPM/DRIVE in the past and that got me very curious about the role of Icariin in those two products.

Irish's talk of his 6 cap Blue UP run got me curious, and I almost added that to the plate, but maybe next time.
 
My Diesel Test Hardcore and Sunami arrived at the Firm this Saturday which means my addition of the Test Bombs will commence tomorrow.

- DTH 6 caps Invalid Link Removed

- Sunami 3 caps Invalid Link Removed

- Icariin-50 to be added presumably by Wednesday at 3 caps Invalid Link Removed

All of which as an enthusiastic addition to White Flood CAPS 8 caps. Invalid Link Removed

I seemed to have gotten used to the 2/2/4 split, which means I'll be looking to do a 2/6 split next before I take on the full gusto. However, on non-workout days, I'll be taking a split dose to keep the BA flowing in the system. Another added bonus of the split days are the fact I would be taking the WF with the other supps and perhaps the aided vasodilation will prove somewhat useful in how it circulates these supps in the blood.

I believe it's universal knowledge that eating carbs with BA blunts parasthesia. For the WF CAPS, it does blunt the paresthesia as expected, but whats most notable is the delayed effect. I had a carbs container dinner around 5:30pm. I took 4 White Flood CAPS around 6:30pm and right now, 9:08pm I'm finally feeling the initial tingling of the paresthesia, it literally set in at the middle of this current post.
 
Time to load the vitamin dispensers.

note to Shaddow,

Get with the '08 oval GNC vitamin dispensers, you can't roll to the club with your out of date square ones. Don't salt yourself out like that


THE OFFICIAL SHADDOW SMILEY

Invalid Link Removed
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top